AGP vs PCI-Express

sk3 · Mar 1, 2005, 12:02 PM

well, i'm kind of thinking on upgrading my current system.

I've been looking for all the boards from ASUS and MSI, trying to find something nice.

But i've been thinking about PCI-E. My current system is AGP, and as you can see in my signature my graphic card is one of the most powerfull, so i've looked forsome AGP based boards, but PCI-E boards have SATA2 and that will be very useful in the future. But i'm confused which board to choose and which plataform.

My current system specs are on my signature.

so what do i do ?

Zardon · Mar 1, 2005, 01:19 PM

Well I think your system right now is pretty kick ass - id wait until the new ATI or nvidia cards come out then contemplate a move for futureproofing.

Vikingod · Mar 1, 2005, 01:28 PM

Definetely wait for a while, your system is nice. Odds are, you will be getting PCI-X, as it is becoming the new standard and replacing AGP. As for now, I wouldn't change a thing.

sk3 · Mar 1, 2005, 02:01 PM

i thank you for the opinion

i thought about it but i'm desperate to get my hands on a AMD64 :P

i'll wait, for the new graphics. I Hope AMR blasts off with SLI :P

Sneaky · Mar 2, 2005, 03:48 AM

im in a similar situation as you, specs are:
P4 2.8
1024 DDR 3200
9800 pro

and have the powerfull urge to build a a64 pci express comp, but i dont want to add more to my credit card bill, and want to have a meachine that would play TES4: Oblivion, but thats about a year away... im torn wether to buy and build now or later.

To make things worse i got too excited and i traded my 9800 pro for a x800xl, lol

so now im stuck with a card i cant use yet, and had to downgrade my comp to a 9700 pro i had. I dont even know why i didnt think things through..so ive put my self in a little situation..i might be able to trade it back for a 9800 pro, but it could be hassle, not to mention id probably wind up trading it again for the same card by the end of the year.

So my options are, keep the card wait a year to build, or build now and use the card.
i dont like the third option, go back and try to trade it back..

zoom314 · Mar 4, 2005, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikingod

Definetely wait for a while, your system is nice. Odds are, you will be getting PCI-E, As it is becoming the new standard and replacing AGP. As for now, I wouldn't change a thing.

My next motherboard will be a PCI-E motherboard from Soltek (SL-K890Pro-939) and It will use the K8T890 Pro chipset and I'll be getting an Sapphire X800 XT PCI-E card for Use with It and an FX-57 cpu and maybe a Vapochill LS to boot. This would be an upgrade to zoom1 at most.

cjohnsto · Mar 4, 2005, 06:01 AM

Stick with the AGP, PCI-X may turn out to be a waste of money for some time to come.

sk3 · Mar 4, 2005, 11:01 AM

i'll wait for a while like Zardon said. My next board will be another MSI. It may be a Nforce4 Ultra because of all the SATA Connections

Until then, ASUS will make another powerfull board

The_Neon_Cowboy · Mar 4, 2005, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjohnsto

Stick with the AGP, PCI-X may turn out to be a waste of money for some time to come.

ROFL.. your kidding right?

Matth · Mar 4, 2005, 06:14 PM

Unless I got it completely wrong, that motherboard does not HAVE any PCI-express capability - just AGP and PCI.

It'll be a while before PCI-express wipes out AGP 8x, especially as there is no real performance advantage.

Motherboards for AMD have trailed those for Intel in the take-up of PCI-express - there are now PCI-express motherboards for AMD, though perhaps not for socket 754.

If you have a good AGP system now, and expect to keep it, with minor upgrades, for long enough that a current "high performance" graphics card will not be something you'd be sad to replace, then go top-end AGP.

If you're looking to the future, then hold fire, get an adequate midrange (former top of the range) AGP graphics, or upgrade to PCI-express motherboard and graphics.

It's an ill-considered "standard", but PCI-express looks like it has the momentum

Judas · Mar 4, 2005, 07:17 PM

Merged 4 threads that were all asking the same questions. Might provide more information for everyone.

Mar 1, 2005, 12:02 PM	#31
sk3 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 64 Rep Power: 0	AGP or PCI-Express ? well, i'm kind of thinking on upgrading my current system. I've been looking for all the boards from ASUS and MSI, trying to find something nice. But i've been thinking about PCI-E. My current system is AGP, and as you can see in my signature my graphic card is one of the most powerfull, so i've looked forsome AGP based boards, but PCI-E boards have SATA2 and that will be very useful in the future. But i'm confused which board to choose and which plataform. My current system specs are on my signature. so what do i do ? __________________

Mar 1, 2005, 02:01 PM	#34
sk3 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 64 Rep Power: 0	i thank you for the opinion i thought about it but i'm desperate to get my hands on a AMD64 :P i'll wait, for the new graphics. I Hope AMR blasts off with SLI :P __________________

Mar 2, 2005, 03:48 AM	#35
Sneaky DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	im in a similar situation as you, specs are: P4 2.8 1024 DDR 3200 9800 pro and have the powerfull urge to build a a64 pci express comp, but i dont want to add more to my credit card bill, and want to have a meachine that would play TES4: Oblivion, but thats about a year away... im torn wether to buy and build now or later. To make things worse i got too excited and i traded my 9800 pro for a x800xl, lol so now im stuck with a card i cant use yet, and had to downgrade my comp to a 9700 pro i had. I dont even know why i didnt think things through..so ive put my self in a little situation..i might be able to trade it back for a 9800 pro, but it could be hassle, not to mention id probably wind up trading it again for the same card by the end of the year. So my options are, keep the card wait a year to build, or build now and use the card. i dont like the third option, go back and try to trade it back.. Last edited by Sneaky; Mar 2, 2005 at 04:14 AM.

Mar 4, 2005, 11:01 AM	#38
sk3 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 64 Rep Power: 0	i'll wait for a while like Zardon said. My next board will be another MSI. It may be a Nforce4 Ultra because of all the SATA Connections Until then, ASUS will make another powerfull board __________________

Mar 1, 2005, 01:19 PM	#32
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Well I think your system right now is pretty kick ass - id wait until the new ATI or nvidia cards come out then contemplate a move for futureproofing.

Mar 1, 2005, 01:28 PM	#33
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,197 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	Definetely wait for a while, your system is nice. Odds are, you will be getting PCI-X, as it is becoming the new standard and replacing AGP. As for now, I wouldn't change a thing.

Mar 4, 2005, 06:01 AM	#37
cjohnsto DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	Stick with the AGP, PCI-X may turn out to be a waste of money for some time to come.

Mar 4, 2005, 06:14 PM	#40
Matth Flash Banner Hater Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,426 Rep Power: 93 System Specs	Unless I got it completely wrong, that motherboard does not HAVE any PCI-express capability - just AGP and PCI. It'll be a while before PCI-express wipes out AGP 8x, especially as there is no real performance advantage. Motherboards for AMD have trailed those for Intel in the take-up of PCI-express - there are now PCI-express motherboards for AMD, though perhaps not for socket 754. If you have a good AGP system now, and expect to keep it, with minor upgrades, for long enough that a current "high performance" graphics card will not be something you'd be sad to replace, then go top-end AGP. If you're looking to the future, then hold fire, get an adequate midrange (former top of the range) AGP graphics, or upgrade to PCI-express motherboard and graphics. It's an ill-considered "standard", but PCI-express looks like it has the momentum