Moving CPU and Heatsink at same time?

nitrousoxide52 · Apr 10, 2005, 11:26 PM

Is it possible to move the heatsink and cpu at the same time? My new motherboard will be ariving soon, and was just wondering if this could be done.

Judas · Apr 10, 2005, 11:32 PM

typically, not a good idea...

Enless the CPU and Heatsink are adheisively connected, i'd strongly suggest that you don't try. If you could do damge to a CPU by accident by mearly tilting the heatsink on the cpu itself and cracking the core. Or creating an air pocket in the thermal grease, or thin it out to much. any number of things could go wrong.

IMO, it's just best to pull it off, clean it up the best you can, and reapply.

CDsDontBurn · Apr 10, 2005, 11:32 PM

what do you mean "moving at the same time?" Be more specific please

Firstperson · Apr 10, 2005, 11:34 PM

Depends on the socket but probably not.

Firstperson

nitrousoxide52 · Apr 10, 2005, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

what do you mean "moving at the same time?" Be more specific please

Like picking em up at the same time, and putting it back in with the same method, so then I wouldn't have to clean it and reapply stuff, because I'm lazy.

krips · Apr 10, 2005, 11:56 PM

You could've cleaned and reapplied in the time it took to make these posts.

CDsDontBurn · Apr 11, 2005, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by nitrousoxide52

Like picking em up at the same time, and putting it back in with the same method, so then I wouldn't have to clean it and reapply stuff, because I'm lazy.

ahh....alright then. Yea, it's best to reapply the thermal paste. Besides, it'll only take like a minute to do so, it's not that hard.

nitrousoxide52 · Apr 11, 2005, 12:19 AM

But my arms hurt when I move them...... must get soda....... ow........ [mobo didn't arrive yet](does compusa sell thermal pads?)

Tipstaff · Apr 11, 2005, 02:11 AM

I wouldn't move them at the same time.

Ontop of what Judas pointed out, you can't judge if the CPU is sitting in it's socket properly, or for that matter properly unseat, and reseat the retention arm for the CPU. You could crush a pin, or even bend a pin with the amount of wieght you'd be applying to the CPU pins. Plus, what if the CPU dislodges itself from the paste while your moving it? Thing is you can't place your fingers on the CPU contacts or you risk damaging them (not only bending from contact but with body oils/sweat residue). Not only that but not all boards are built the same. The socket could be in a different position, even by a milimeter to what the old board was, and when you tried to insert it you could do what I mentioned above.

Here's a simple question for you: Would you ratherwait, and pay a couple dollars for thermal paste, and do this the right way, or would you rather risk damaging your CPU, and paying WAY MORE than that to replace it?

Your call.

-Tip

nitrousoxide52 · Apr 11, 2005, 02:30 AM

Damn, these cpu companies never think about their lazy users.....

swimtech · Apr 11, 2005, 04:48 AM

I don't think anyone who takes the time to install their own mainboard could possibly be lazy!

It takes me longer to position the mainboard over the standoffs properly and cinch the beast down than it does to apply heat sink material (or especially a thermal pad...) and attach the heat sink - but that is me...

Yeah, sometimes it is a pain to get the heat sink apart from the CPU, but that's part of the thrill of building your own (or repairing one...) too.

One of the few adrenaline rushes (apart from gaming - of course) available to us computer folks, eh?

Drakon · Apr 11, 2005, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by swimtech

I don't think anyone who takes the time to install their own mainboard could possibly be lazy!

It takes me longer to position the mainboard over the standoffs properly and cinch the beast down than it does to apply heat sink material (or especially a thermal pad...) and attach the heat sink - but that is me...

Yeah, sometimes it is a pain to get the heat sink apart from the CPU, but that's part of the thrill of building your own (or repairing one...) too.

One of the few adrenaline rushes (apart from gaming - of course) available to us computer folks, eh?

I fully agree, Swimtech. The tension really rises when you're turning it on for the first time. It's so thick you can cut it with a knife

Asmoday · Apr 11, 2005, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Drakon

I fully agree, Swimtech. The tension really rises when you're turning it on for the first time. It's so thick you can cut it with a knife

And the horrible feeling when nothing happens, no screen no nothing....

Then you realize you've forgot to plug the atx header in the mobo...

swimtech · Apr 11, 2005, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Asmoday

And the horrible feeling when nothing happens, no screen no nothing....

Then you realize you've forgot to plug the atx header in the mobo...

That's an oops! Much better than an Oh Sh..! (pardon me please...).

Drakon · Apr 11, 2005, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asmoday

And the horrible feeling when nothing happens, no screen no nothing....

Then you realize you've forgot to plug the atx header in the mobo...

LOL, how true, how true. Or you forgot to turn on the PSU itself.

Drakon · Apr 11, 2005, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swimtech

That's an oops! Much better than an Oh Sh..! (pardon me please...).

LOL

nitrousoxide52 · Apr 12, 2005, 11:23 PM

Yeah this is gonna be my first build, getting rid of this sh

y HP motherboard and all that other crap they put on there, finally, should give me a great boost in speed, my RAM will finally be running at DDR400 instead of DDR333[damn mobo].

DarkFoss · Apr 13, 2005, 02:33 AM

Hahaha, well I actually tried it Once. Just as I lifted them out of the old motherboard and was going to center it over the new my wife's cat jumped up and onto my shoulder jarring the cpu off the heatsink.
It bounced off the kitchen chair onto the floor and of course the cat jumped down and started playing with it. End result 12 bent pins, took me over 2 hours to get them straightened out. I had to glue some felt to a small pair of tweazers and used that and toothpicks to get it to the point where it would insert into the motherboard. Amazingly the processor still works fine to this day.

Asmoday · Apr 13, 2005, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkFoss

Hahaha, well I actually tried it Once. Just as I lifted them out of the old motherboard and was going to center it over the new my wife's cat jumped up and onto my shoulder jarring the cpu off the heatsink.
It bounced off the kitchen chair onto the floor and of course the cat jumped down and started playing with it. End result 12 bent pins, took me over 2 hours to get them straightened out. I had to glue some felt to a small pair of tweazers and used that and toothpicks to get it to the point where it would insert into the motherboard. Amazingly the processor still works fine to this day.

That cat would've been nothing but a wet spot on the wall if it happend to me...

DarkFoss · Apr 13, 2005, 05:38 AM

Thats nothing when I built my first amd computer I was doing some maintenance. I stopped for a smoke break and left the side of the case off. While I was gone the same cat sprayed the inside of the computer. I didn't notice and powered up. Fried the motherboard my Radeon 8500 my Audigy1 card and the harddrive. I was able to salvage the processor, ram,and the 2 optical drives.
While the cat still lives we share a healthy hatred for each other.

swimtech · Apr 13, 2005, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkFoss

Thats nothing when I built my first amd computer I was doing some maintenance. I stopped for a smoke break and left the side of the case off. While I was gone the same cat sprayed the inside of the computer. I didn't notice and powered up. Fried the motherboard my Radeon 8500 my Audigy1 card and the harddrive. I was able to salvage the processor, ram,and the 2 optical drives.
While the cat still lives we share a healthy hatred for each other.

Now THAT'S an Oh .... !

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Apr 11, 2005, 12:19 AM	Thread Starter #8
nitrousoxide52 Driverheaven.com err .net Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,719 Rep Power: 0	But my arms hurt when I move them...... must get soda....... ow........ [mobo didn't arrive yet](does compusa sell thermal pads?) __________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+ XFX Geforce 7800GT ABIT AN8-SLI BFG Tech 650w

Apr 11, 2005, 02:11 AM	#9
Tipstaff HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Real capital of Canada: Torauna Posts: 6,773 Rep Power: 191 System Specs	I wouldn't move them at the same time. Ontop of what Judas pointed out, you can't judge if the CPU is sitting in it's socket properly, or for that matter properly unseat, and reseat the retention arm for the CPU. You could crush a pin, or even bend a pin with the amount of wieght you'd be applying to the CPU pins. Plus, what if the CPU dislodges itself from the paste while your moving it? Thing is you can't place your fingers on the CPU contacts or you risk damaging them (not only bending from contact but with body oils/sweat residue). Not only that but not all boards are built the same. The socket could be in a different position, even by a milimeter to what the old board was, and when you tried to insert it you could do what I mentioned above. Here's a simple question for you: Would you ratherwait, and pay a couple dollars for thermal paste, and do this the right way, or would you rather risk damaging your CPU, and paying WAY MORE than that to replace it? Your call. -Tip __________________ Portal: The Flash Version _________________________________ Brain: So, you sacked the cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker? Mr. Sackett: The second cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker I've sacked since the sixth sitting sheet slitter got sick.

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Firstperson What? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Grand Rapids MI Posts: 232 Rep Power: 0	Depends on the socket but probably not. Firstperson

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Apr 11, 2005, 04:48 AM	#11
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	I don't think anyone who takes the time to install their own mainboard could possibly be lazy! It takes me longer to position the mainboard over the standoffs properly and cinch the beast down than it does to apply heat sink material (or especially a thermal pad...) and attach the heat sink - but that is me... Yeah, sometimes it is a pain to get the heat sink apart from the CPU, but that's part of the thrill of building your own (or repairing one...) too. One of the few adrenaline rushes (apart from gaming - of course) available to us computer folks, eh? __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

Apr 12, 2005, 11:23 PM	Thread Starter #17
nitrousoxide52 Driverheaven.com err .net Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,719 Rep Power: 0	Yeah this is gonna be my first build, getting rid of this shy HP motherboard and all that other crap they put on there, finally, should give me a great boost in speed, my RAM will finally be running at DDR400 instead of DDR333[damn mobo]. __________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+ XFX Geforce 7800GT ABIT AN8-SLI BFG Tech 650w

Apr 13, 2005, 02:33 AM	#18
DarkFoss HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Downers Grove IL Posts: 688 Rep Power: 0	Hahaha, well I actually tried it Once. Just as I lifted them out of the old motherboard and was going to center it over the new my wife's cat jumped up and onto my shoulder jarring the cpu off the heatsink. It bounced off the kitchen chair onto the floor and of course the cat jumped down and started playing with it. End result 12 bent pins, took me over 2 hours to get them straightened out. I had to glue some felt to a small pair of tweazers and used that and toothpicks to get it to the point where it would insert into the motherboard. Amazingly the processor still works fine to this day. __________________ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety,deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Ben Franklin, 1755

Apr 13, 2005, 05:38 AM	#20
DarkFoss HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Downers Grove IL Posts: 688 Rep Power: 0	Thats nothing when I built my first amd computer I was doing some maintenance. I stopped for a smoke break and left the side of the case off. While I was gone the same cat sprayed the inside of the computer. I didn't notice and powered up. Fried the motherboard my Radeon 8500 my Audigy1 card and the harddrive. I was able to salvage the processor, ram,and the 2 optical drives. While the cat still lives we share a healthy hatred for each other. __________________ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety,deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Ben Franklin, 1755