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Old Aug 10, 2005, 06:41 PM   #1
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Big Grin I got my new hard drive You won't belive what they gave me
Gateway send me my replacement.
120 EIDE ULTRA ATA-100 HD 7200RPM Special ED W/8mb Cahce 3.5<Shock!
now my games would really fly. I hope new cats come out today. I be very happy man.
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Awesome, what was it originally? I'm door watching right now, my 250GB Hitachi Deskstar SATAII drive is due at any moment
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Awesome, what was it originally? I'm door watching right now, my 250GB Hitachi Deskstar SATAII drive is due at any moment
Well went my hard drive went out on Monday. It was 2mb cache So I think that why my harddrive die on me. for couple weeks my harddrive was going up 100F when idle. But thanks to gateway for there fast service I'm very please. Kinda shock they said 1-3 days. it show up today
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Bah I'll never willingly buy a branded PC. But good deal you got none the less....
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all ATAs are lame horses - better go SATA!
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all ATAs are lame horses - better go SATA!
Lame horses? Unless you are running a RAID setup there is no "huge" difference between SATA and PATA. I've seen a number of PATA drives outperform a number of SATA drives, however I've also seen the reverse. What it really boils down to is the drive itself, not the controller.

'Sides.. SATA are the true "lame horses" when compared to SATAII.
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Lame horses? Unless you are running a RAID setup there is no "huge" difference between SATA and PATA. I've seen a number of PATA drives outperform a number of SATA drives, however I've also seen the reverse. What it really boils down to is the drive itself, not the controller.

'Sides.. SATA are the true "lame horses" when compared to SATAII.
my old Maxtor PATAs scored about 35MB/s (Sandra) at UDMA6. I switched to two Seagate SATA (ide mode) and got 50MB/s. That's why I call it lame
I don't know what people are doing wrong when complaining that SATA is nearly the same as PATA. For me it has been quite a performance boost.
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I don't know what people are doing wrong when complaining that SATA is nearly the same as PATA. For me it has been quite a performance boost.
Not for me. I'm just saying that I've seen PATA drives outperform SATA, and vice versa. It depends on the drive, and configuration. You wouldn't expect that since the max transfer rate of a PATA drive is 133mb/s, while SATA is 1.5GB/s (SATAII 3GB/s), but it does happen.

In any case, for Robert to change over to SATA he'd not only have to buy an new drive, but a SATA controller. Don't think he's looking to do that just yet.
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I don't have ATA hook up cable on this mother board It's only IDE cables
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Shoot! That PATA drive with the 8mb cache is a GREAT drive! It was FREE!!!
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Not for me. I'm just saying that I've seen PATA drives outperform SATA, and vice versa. It depends on the drive, and configuration. You wouldn't expect that since the max transfer rate of a PATA drive is 133mb/s, while SATA is 1.5GB/s (SATAII 3GB/s), but it does happen.
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I thought SATA is only 150mb/s - that's what HDTach tells
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I thought SATA is only 150mb/s - that's what HDTach tells
Sorry, typed GB/s in caps. Should have been Gb/s (gigabits/s). So, yes, SATA runs at 150 megabytes a second, while SATAII is 300 megabytes a second.

Something of note: you mentioned that your old drive was a UDMA66 drive. So, in effect, by going to a SATA drive you should notice a big increase in performance (2x the speed actually). However, PATA drives are usually ATA100/133 nowadays.
When you consider the highest PATA speed versus SATA, does 17 megabytes per second really make ALL that much of a difference? Not really.

Like I said, it all boils down to the drive itself, not the interface. With SATAII that will change dramatically as the interface will play a key roll in transfer speed.
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Sorry, typed GB/s in caps. Should have been Gb/s (gigabits/s). So, yes, SATA runs at 150 megabytes a second, while SATAII is 300 megabytes a second.

Something of note: you mentioned that your old drive was a UDMA66 drive. So, in effect, by going to a SATA drive you should notice a big increase in performance (2x the speed actually). However, PATA drives are usually ATA100/133 nowadays.
When you consider the highest PATA speed versus SATA, does 17 megabytes per second really make ALL that much of a difference? Not really.
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Considering that especially Maxtor (Desktop line) is worst at Write performance - those 17MB made a hell of a difference for me. Seagate's Read/Write performance is equally high. It was sorta double impact for me

PS: I wrote UDMA 6 that is ATA 133
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