Which CPU?

SOX_H8r · Aug 11, 2005, 08:44 PM

Out of these two, which would you rather have in your box?

Dual Core AMD Athlon 64 X 2 Processor 4800+ @ 2.4GHz, 1000 MHz FSB, 2 X 1MB L2 Cache

OR

AMD Athlon 64 FX-57 Processor @ 2.8GHz, 1000MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache

And why?

I'm going for the FX-57!

CDsDontBurn · Aug 11, 2005, 08:56 PM

x2 definately

. Reason why is because everything will start to become optimized for dual core CPUs. Don't get me wrong, the FX-57 is an awesome processor, but for the same price, it's best to get dual core. It will get you the best performance in the long run

daedal · Aug 11, 2005, 09:24 PM

Yeah, I'm asking myself that question too and I think I'll spring for Dual-core.

mike2h · Aug 11, 2005, 09:38 PM

the fx will give you best perf now, but that will not be true down the line(depends on adaption of dual core opt). by the fx for instant gratification, buy the dual core as a future investment, that will be fast now & faster later.

SOX_H8r · Aug 12, 2005, 02:20 PM

Thanks, I'll go with the dual core!

Rox271 · Aug 12, 2005, 03:52 PM

Noob question: can you actually run WinXP Home edition with a dual core? I heard that the main difference between Home and Pro was that the home would only support one CPU.

CDsDontBurn · Aug 12, 2005, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rox271

Noob question: can you actually run WinXP Home edition with a dual core? I heard that the main difference between Home and Pro was that the home would only support one CPU.

absolutley false. You can run winXP home on a dual core processor. To run dual core, most likley you'll need to flash the BIOS of your MoBo and install some CPU drivers.

Rox271 · Aug 12, 2005, 05:10 PM

Well, I know you can run it, but then, wouldn't it run on a single core?

Necrosis · Aug 12, 2005, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

absolutley false. You can run winXP home on a dual core processor. To run dual core, most likley you'll need to flash the BIOS of your MoBo and install some CPU drivers.

CD's is right.

Home supports one processor, but a dual core processor is one processor so it'll be fine. I had to be sure about this myself since I'm using Home as well.

BTW I vote for the 4800 too.

Rox271 · Aug 12, 2005, 05:16 PM

Ok. This is never obvious with MS or even other sotware supplier. For example I think that Oracle is billing two licences for multithreaded servers!!
So we can say that MS is billing one licence per socket?

kelticknight · Aug 12, 2005, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SOX_H8r

Out of these two, which would you rather have in your box?

Dual Core AMD Athlon 64 X 2 Processor 4800+ @ 2.4GHz, 1000 MHz FSB, 2 X 1MB L2 Cache

OR

AMD Athlon 64 FX-57 Processor @ 2.8GHz, 1000MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache

And why?

I'm going for the FX-57!

go x2
why= you see alot of software and games next year using x2,also good for gaming,will get one myself when prices go lower

Necrosis · Aug 12, 2005, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rox271

Ok. This is never obvious with MS or even other sotware supplier. For example I think that Oracle is billing two licences for multithreaded servers!!
So we can say that MS is billing one licence per socket?

http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/h...multicore.mspx

Zorg · Aug 13, 2005, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Necrosis

CD's is right.

Home supports one processor, but a dual core processor is one processor so it'll be fine. I had to be sure about this myself since I'm using Home as well.

BTW I vote for the 4800 too.

OH, I thought dual core has to be listed as two CPUs?!
If Win sees it only as one CPU what's the real life advantage of X2? - any? .. or just another marketing stunt

Necrosis · Aug 13, 2005, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorg

OH, I thought dual core has to be listed as two CPUs?!
If Win sees it only as one CPU what's the real life advantage of X2? - any? .. or just another marketing stunt

They are listed but MS considers them one processor for licensing.

Zorg · Aug 13, 2005, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Necrosis

They are listed but MS considers them one processor for licensing.

oright, thx, but XP Home (PRO?) can only handle one CPU/core so a X2 is a waste of money, right?

Necrosis · Aug 13, 2005, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorg

oright, thx, but XP Home (PRO?) can only handle one CPU/core so a X2 is a waste of money, right?

Let me put it another way.

XP Home will work with one processor "package" but will not with two processor packages. Hence, two cores in one package will work.

XP Pro will work with one processor package, and also with two processor packages. So I one single core or one dual core. Two single cores, or two dual core processors.

mike2h · Aug 13, 2005, 06:00 AM

the other way to put it, is that you will be fine

Rox271 · Aug 14, 2005, 10:59 AM

Well I think I understand what you say, but just to be sure.
With XP Home + Dual core, I will see two processor load windows in the task manager?

Necrosis · Aug 17, 2005, 12:10 AM

Yes it does.

nitrousoxide52 · Aug 17, 2005, 04:06 AM

When I was going through the windows drivers for the cpu, there was actually multiproccesor drivers, and dual core drivers. This may have been from an update. Maybe this will interest you guys.

DH and ATI rock

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SOX_H8r DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Poconos, Pa. (NOT A LOCAL! A transplanted New Yorker!) Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Which CPU? Out of these two, which would you rather have in your box? Dual Core AMD Athlon 64 X 2 Processor 4800+ @ 2.4GHz, 1000 MHz FSB, 2 X 1MB L2 Cache OR AMD Athlon 64 FX-57 Processor @ 2.8GHz, 1000MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache And why? I'm going for the FX-57! __________________ Lifelong member of the "Evil Empire" [color=blue]GO YANKEES![/color]

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CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,795 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	x2 definately . Reason why is because everything will start to become optimized for dual core CPUs. Don't get me wrong, the FX-57 is an awesome processor, but for the same price, it's best to get dual core. It will get you the best performance in the long run __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

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daedal Uber Coffee Drinker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Gatineau, Quebec Posts: 2,250 Rep Power: 0	Yeah, I'm asking myself that question too and I think I'll spring for Dual-core. __________________

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mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	the fx will give you best perf now, but that will not be true down the line(depends on adaption of dual core opt). by the fx for instant gratification, buy the dual core as a future investment, that will be fast now & faster later. __________________

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SOX_H8r DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Poconos, Pa. (NOT A LOCAL! A transplanted New Yorker!) Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Thanks, I'll go with the dual core! __________________ Lifelong member of the "Evil Empire" [color=blue]GO YANKEES![/color]

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Rox271 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Here Posts: 251 Rep Power: 0	Noob question: can you actually run WinXP Home edition with a dual core? I heard that the main difference between Home and Pro was that the home would only support one CPU.

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Rox271 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Here Posts: 251 Rep Power: 0	Well, I know you can run it, but then, wouldn't it run on a single core?

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Rox271 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Here Posts: 251 Rep Power: 0	Ok. This is never obvious with MS or even other sotware supplier. For example I think that Oracle is billing two licences for multithreaded servers!! So we can say that MS is billing one licence per socket?

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mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	the other way to put it, is that you will be fine __________________

Aug 14, 2005, 10:59 AM	#18
Rox271 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Here Posts: 251 Rep Power: 0	Well I think I understand what you say, but just to be sure. With XP Home + Dual core, I will see two processor load windows in the task manager?

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Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Yes it does.

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nitrousoxide52 Driverheaven.com err .net Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,719 Rep Power: 0	When I was going through the windows drivers for the cpu, there was actually multiproccesor drivers, and dual core drivers. This may have been from an update. Maybe this will interest you guys. DH and ATI rock __________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+ XFX Geforce 7800GT ABIT AN8-SLI BFG Tech 650w