[SFOSOK]

The recent Hardware review for the OCZ 2gb Gold edition makes me want to buy it for the new comp I am building. My question is how would this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146578 rate compared to the OCZ gold, its 70 less and everythign looks about the same.


Edit:


Here is what I would liek to choose from, I plan to overclock an AMD 64 3500+


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146578
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227219
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227210

[Lowfat]

the first ones are almost the same as the OCZ PC4000 ones. Should get similar OCs.

[CDsDontBurn]

if i were you, i'd go w/the platinum 3200 OCZ. Reason being is because i don't know if the other ones would be able to do 2-3-2-5 timings @ 400Mhz. It should also be able to do 500Mhz with similar timings as the ones rated for 500Mhz. But if you're not going to be doing any overclocking period the end, get the RAM w/the tighter timings.

[H3X4D3C1M4L]

Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

if i were you, i'd go w/the platinum 3200 OCZ. Reason being is because i don't know if the other ones would be able to do 2-3-2-5 timings @ 400Mhz. It should also be able to do 500Mhz with similar timings as the ones rated for 500Mhz. But if you're not going to be doing any overclocking period the end, get the RAM w/the tighter timings.

The Rev. 2 ones do 2-2-2-5 at DDR400 and with slightly relaxed timings are known to do DDR500 at least if not DDR550. Go Samsung TCCD's!

And even if he doesn't overclock thats no reason not to get the platinum, is it?

[Lowfat]

Originally Posted by H3X4D3C1M4L

The Rev. 2 ones do 2-2-2-5 at DDR400 and with slightly relaxed timings are known to do DDR500 at least if not DDR550. Go Samsung TCCD's!

And even if he doesn't overclock thats no reason not to get the platinum, is it?

he wants 1GB sticks. there are no 1GB sticks that go that tight.

and BTW they have been using TCC5 since about April/May in the rev2s.

[CDsDontBurn]

TCC5 doesn't perform as well as TCCD did. Not as well an OCer as TCCD chips were.

or so i understand

[Lowfat]

Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

TCC5 doesn't perform as well as TCCD did. Not as well an OCer as TCCD chips were.

or so i understand

its a misconception actually. It was an OCZ guy on some forum i go to (dfi-street maybe?). Anyways, its not that TCC5 performs any worse than TCC5, in fact it might be actually better, it is however binned differently. Back in the day with TCCD, PC3200 rev2 had chances of scaling well just as the PC4800. However now its not the case, the ones that scale higher are reserved for the PC4800+ ram, and ones that won't scale that high but will maintain 2-2-2-5 timings @ PC3200 will be used for that.

[H3X4D3C1M4L]

TCCD5's are supposed to be superior, the whole thing over not overclocking as well as the TCCD's was BS.

They do better than the Winbond chips they used in the rev. 1 do.

[Necrosis]

Originally Posted by SFOSOK

The recent Hardware review for the OCZ 2gb Gold edition makes me want to buy it for the new comp I am building. My question is how would this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146578 rate compared to the OCZ gold, its 70 less and everythign looks about the same.


Edit:


Here is what I would liek to choose from, I plan to overclock an AMD 64 3500+


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146578
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227219
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227210

I have your third option there.

Decent ram with no problems up to 220 but that is as high as I've taken it. Currently not OC'ing since there isn't much point.

[SFOSOK]

Yeah, thats what I'm thinking about goin with. Thanks guys for the help.

[Lowfat]

Originally Posted by H3X4D3C1M4L

TCCD5's are supposed to be superior, the whole thing over not overclocking as well as the TCCD's was BS.

They do better than the Winbond chips they used in the rev. 1 do.

Winbond is all about the high voltage. can TCC5/TCCD to 270-280 @ 2-2-2-5? hell no..

[H3X4D3C1M4L]

Yeah but how long will the Winbond last at 3.5 volts :P

Thats the trade off. If you buy new stuff every once in a while high voltage is ok but otherwise you need active ram cooling and some serious airflow to maintain those kind of voltages.

Besides stock on the rev. 1 is 2-3-2-5... if they're so capable why aren't they 2-2-2-5 at stock?

[Lowfat]

Originally Posted by H3X4D3C1M4L

Yeah but how long will the Winbond last at 3.5 volts :P

Thats the trade off. If you buy new stuff every once in a while high voltage is ok but otherwise you need active ram cooling and some serious airflow to maintain those kind of voltages.

Besides stock on the rev. 1 is 2-3-2-5... if they're so capable why aren't they 2-2-2-5 at stock?

My OCZ VX GOLD which has Winbond UTT chips (CH-5?) has a lifetime warranty. I dont think they'd warranty it if it didn't hold up @ 3.5V.

And winbond chips need quite a bit of voltage to get high clocks/tight timings, that is why it isn't 2-2-2-5 stock.

[CDsDontBurn]

the best for OCing IMO has always been BH-5/6 chips .

[H3X4D3C1M4L]

Well I'm debating right now between Rev. 1 and 2 of those chips, but my mobo doesn't go up to that kind of voltage and I imagine the modules will get really hot.

If I run it at 2.7 volts will the winbond's do 2-2-2-5 @ DDR400?

[CDsDontBurn]

not a problem . shouldn't be at least

[Lowfat]

Originally Posted by H3X4D3C1M4L

Well I'm debating right now between Rev. 1 and 2 of those chips, but my mobo doesn't go up to that kind of voltage and I imagine the modules will get really hot.

If I run it at 2.7 volts will the winbond's do 2-2-2-5 @ DDR400?

If your using the 3000+ in your sig, probably. My UTT needs ~2.9V to do 2-2-2.

[Lowfat]

here is a bit of info from one of the OCZ guys on another forum..might change your purchase thoughts....

OCZ has switched back to TCCD for all of the Platinum modules that have been TCCD in the past. The 3200 Platinum Rev 2 and PC4200 and PC4800 Platinum are now TCCD. Production switched late last week and should be hitting stores this week.

[H3X4D3C1M4L]

Originally Posted by Tulcakelume

here is a bit of info from one of the OCZ guys on another forum..might change your purchase thoughts....

So I should go for the TCCD's or not?

Rev 1 is about 30 bucks cheaper than the Rev. 2's but I can get them both at the same price pretty much.... so I don't know.

I don't really need uber overclocking because I'm going to run my FSB and RAM at 216 Mhz 1:1 then unlock my CPU and bring it as high as it will go, so if it does PC3500 at 2-2-2-5 with 2.75 volts (like most TCCD's I see can do) then I'd be more than happy.

[CDsDontBurn]

Originally Posted by H3X4D3C1M4L

So I should go for the TCCD's or not?

Rev 1 is about 30 bucks cheaper than the Rev. 2's but I can get them both at the same price pretty much.... so I don't know.

I don't really need uber overclocking because I'm going to run my FSB and RAM at 216 Mhz 1:1 then unlock my CPU and bring it as high as it will go, so if it does PC3500 at 2-2-2-5 with 2.75 volts (like most TCCD's I see can do) then I'd be more than happy.

the TCCDs running in my rig right now do 1:1 ratio, 2-2-2-5 timings, at 225FSB running 2.8v. The speeds you want to run at should be cake

[Lowfat]

Originally Posted by H3X4D3C1M4L

So I should go for the TCCD's or not?

Rev 1 is about 30 bucks cheaper than the Rev. 2's but I can get them both at the same price pretty much.... so I don't know.

I don't really need uber overclocking because I'm going to run my FSB and RAM at 216 Mhz 1:1 then unlock my CPU and bring it as high as it will go, so if it does PC3500 at 2-2-2-5 with 2.75 volts (like most TCCD's I see can do) then I'd be more than happy.

Since you don't have a lot of vdimm, TCCD is what I would go for.

[CDsDontBurn]

lol....one thing i do have in my rig that is not posted in my sig is my OCZ DDR booster . My ram for some reason doesn't like going above 3.0v . But i guess that's TCCD for me . My MoBo only does upto 2.8v so the OCZ DDR booster is a must for me above 2.8v.

[H3X4D3C1M4L]

I can hit 2.9 so I'm not too Vdimm limited...

Think I''ll get the TCCD's though. Had alot of luck with samsung in the past too

[SFOSOK]

I would like to get to 2.6 or 2.8 for my CPU, are those goin to be able to support my CPU? Or let me get the FSB up that high?

[CDsDontBurn]

Originally Posted by SFOSOK

I would like to get to 2.6 or 2.8 for my CPU, are those goin to be able to support my CPU? Or let me get the FSB up that high?

2.6Ghz from 1.9Ghz is feasable, but quite difficult. and going from 1.9Ghz to 2.8Ghz would be even more difficult. it would be most probable going water cooling to hit those clock speeds. you just gotta mess around w/your memory, and if you got an unlocked xp2600, your multiplier as well.

[Lowfat]

Originally Posted by SFOSOK

I would like to get to 2.6 or 2.8 for my CPU, are those goin to be able to support my CPU? Or let me get the FSB up that high?

With a 2600+ barton, non-mobile? Those chips are pretty poor clockers. I could my 2600+ @ 2.3GHz, and that was with 1.85V.

[SFOSOK]

Hell no, not that CPU, I'm talking about for my new comp AMD 64 3500

[CDsDontBurn]

Originally Posted by SFOSOK

Hell no, not that CPU, I'm talking about for my new comp AMD 64 3500

lol....my bad . those come w/a stock clock of 2.2Ghz......so 2.6Ghz i don't see any problem. if you get a venice core, you should also be able to hit 2.8Ghz, but i'm not too sure on that. I'd say ask the hardcore A64 OCers here in this forum or other forums .

[SFOSOK]

I should take that crap out of my sig because it confuses everyone. If Paypal takes its death grip off of my PSP funds then I will be able to buy my system after Sunday (shortly after) : ).

[CDsDontBurn]

so what are you going to do w/your 2600?