New MB for a p4 2.4 (400 fsb)

Ferret_Style · Sep 13, 2005, 07:33 PM

Ok so i need to upgrade wifes system and decided her processor is fine for now but her MB is really the slow part. (ie i have $200 to upgrade with and can not afford more). So currently she has a p4pe asus board with 4 x agp and single channel memory no sata.

I found this http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?m...=3&l2=12&l3=31

It would give duel channel... work with the older processor and even has 8 x agp as she has a x800 pro. This with a SATA hard drive should do me wonders i think...

But i wanted some input. I am also getting her a 160 sata drive to increase the system. That is all i can afford. What do you guys think?

INSTG8R · Sep 13, 2005, 07:43 PM

Unavailable to me here in Norway but if your gonna replace a S478 might as well go for the best Dual channel with PAT SATA and Gb Lan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813127152

I just ordered a regular IC7(my old Gigabyte the Missus is using is popping a Cap) IC7-G is far to expensive here and the MAX is the top of line one and the best S478 chipset there was.

INSTG8R · Sep 13, 2005, 07:49 PM

AH yes and the one that my Missus will inherit(easier to not format hers as same chipset) the IS7 I use now(also SATA, dual channel with PAT)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16813127155]
Can you tell I like Abit LOL(just think they do a quality job on this generation of MoBos minus their silly NB fans which can be removed and have no use anyway as Intel NB dont get hot anyway)

Ferret_Style · Sep 13, 2005, 08:00 PM

I like abit but partial my self to asus... just wondering if i will see a HUGE increase from single channel to duel, 4 x agp - 8 x agp and from pata to sata?

INSTG8R · Sep 13, 2005, 08:33 PM

Well the dual channel will make difference the PAT again is about 25% lower latency but the if the MoBo is using the Intel SATA controller you wont see a huge difference as it really doesnt run it in "true" SATA I get about 119 Mbs burst speed. The Asus P4P800 Deluxe is the Asus flavour of 865PE board with the PAT enabled which also has SATA

Lowfat · Sep 13, 2005, 08:57 PM

I didn't think that the 865PE chips had PAT. I believe it started with the 875 chipsets, like in the P4C800s.

INSTG8R · Sep 13, 2005, 09:45 PM

In most cases yes you are right Tulcakelume but there were a few in the 865PE series that snuck thru the IS7 was one of them heres a good article on 865PE PAT boards it really does make a great difference in the Latency, in the Everest Latency Benchmark I rate just under the Opteron (impressive to me being just under AMDs)in latency and top in Read and 3 in write speeds

heres a shot when I was only running 1 gig with a 215FSB(also you can see the ASUS one is in that list as well)

Ferret_Style · Sep 13, 2005, 09:58 PM

what is PAT?

INSTG8R · Sep 13, 2005, 10:14 PM

Try This article or THIS
LOL at the bit on the bottom about Intels 865PE policy
EDIT:more from Intel

Sep 13, 2005, 07:43 PM	#2
INSTG8R DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canadian lost in Norway Posts: 527 Rep Power: 0	Unavailable to me here in Norway but if your gonna replace a S478 might as well go for the best Dual channel with PAT SATA and Gb Lan http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813127152 I just ordered a regular IC7(my old Gigabyte the Missus is using is popping a Cap) IC7-G is far to expensive here and the MAX is the top of line one and the best S478 chipset there was. __________________ Sys. Specs. Intel E6600@3.2\|Abit IP35 Pro\|2x1024 Crucial Ballistix PC8500 \|Sapphire HD4870 512\|Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 500G SATAII 16MB w/PRT\|SB X-Fi Fatality\|TT Tough Power 1200W\|TT Kandalf L.C.S.\|Samsung 204B 20" 5ms LCD\|Logitech G25\|Logitech G5\|Logitech G15\|Saitek X-52+Pro Rudder Pedals\|TrackIR w/Trackclip Pro 3DMark06

Sep 13, 2005, 07:49 PM	#3
INSTG8R DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canadian lost in Norway Posts: 527 Rep Power: 0	AH yes and the one that my Missus will inherit(easier to not format hers as same chipset) the IS7 I use now(also SATA, dual channel with PAT) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16813127155] Can you tell I like Abit LOL(just think they do a quality job on this generation of MoBos minus their silly NB fans which can be removed and have no use anyway as Intel NB dont get hot anyway) __________________ Sys. Specs. Intel E6600@3.2\|Abit IP35 Pro\|2x1024 Crucial Ballistix PC8500 \|Sapphire HD4870 512\|Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 500G SATAII 16MB w/PRT\|SB X-Fi Fatality\|TT Tough Power 1200W\|TT Kandalf L.C.S.\|Samsung 204B 20" 5ms LCD\|Logitech G25\|Logitech G5\|Logitech G15\|Saitek X-52+Pro Rudder Pedals\|TrackIR w/Trackclip Pro 3DMark06

Sep 13, 2005, 08:33 PM	#5
INSTG8R DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canadian lost in Norway Posts: 527 Rep Power: 0	Well the dual channel will make difference the PAT again is about 25% lower latency but the if the MoBo is using the Intel SATA controller you wont see a huge difference as it really doesnt run it in "true" SATA I get about 119 Mbs burst speed. The Asus P4P800 Deluxe is the Asus flavour of 865PE board with the PAT enabled which also has SATA __________________ Sys. Specs. Intel E6600@3.2\|Abit IP35 Pro\|2x1024 Crucial Ballistix PC8500 \|Sapphire HD4870 512\|Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 500G SATAII 16MB w/PRT\|SB X-Fi Fatality\|TT Tough Power 1200W\|TT Kandalf L.C.S.\|Samsung 204B 20" 5ms LCD\|Logitech G25\|Logitech G5\|Logitech G15\|Saitek X-52+Pro Rudder Pedals\|TrackIR w/Trackclip Pro 3DMark06

Sep 13, 2005, 08:57 PM	#6
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,254 Rep Power: 101	I didn't think that the 865PE chips had PAT. I believe it started with the 875 chipsets, like in the P4C800s. __________________

Sep 13, 2005, 09:45 PM	#7
INSTG8R DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canadian lost in Norway Posts: 527 Rep Power: 0	In most cases yes you are right Tulcakelume but there were a few in the 865PE series that snuck thru the IS7 was one of them heres a good article on 865PE PAT boards it really does make a great difference in the Latency, in the Everest Latency Benchmark I rate just under the Opteron (impressive to me being just under AMDs)in latency and top in Read and 3 in write speeds heres a shot when I was only running 1 gig with a 215FSB(also you can see the ASUS one is in that list as well) __________________ Sys. Specs. Intel E6600@3.2\|Abit IP35 Pro\|2x1024 Crucial Ballistix PC8500 \|Sapphire HD4870 512\|Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 500G SATAII 16MB w/PRT\|SB X-Fi Fatality\|TT Tough Power 1200W\|TT Kandalf L.C.S.\|Samsung 204B 20" 5ms LCD\|Logitech G25\|Logitech G5\|Logitech G15\|Saitek X-52+Pro Rudder Pedals\|TrackIR w/Trackclip Pro 3DMark06

Sep 13, 2005, 10:14 PM	#9
INSTG8R DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canadian lost in Norway Posts: 527 Rep Power: 0	Try This article or THIS LOL at the bit on the bottom about Intels 865PE policy EDIT:more from Intel __________________ Sys. Specs. Intel E6600@3.2\|Abit IP35 Pro\|2x1024 Crucial Ballistix PC8500 \|Sapphire HD4870 512\|Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 500G SATAII 16MB w/PRT\|SB X-Fi Fatality\|TT Tough Power 1200W\|TT Kandalf L.C.S.\|Samsung 204B 20" 5ms LCD\|Logitech G25\|Logitech G5\|Logitech G15\|Saitek X-52+Pro Rudder Pedals\|TrackIR w/Trackclip Pro 3DMark06 Last edited by INSTG8R; Sep 13, 2005 at 10:20 PM.