Ram upgrade issues

StuRReaL · Jan 31, 2006, 12:05 AM

I've just upgraded my ram from 1gb to 2gb i'm using 4x512mb of OCZ Platinum ram its the 400mhz 2-2-2-5 stuff. For some reason when i switch my computer on it clocked my ram down to 333mhz which I thought was odd for saying its 400mhz ram and my processors fsb is 400mhz too. The problem is I'm getting the odd BSOD and i was only using visual studio 2005 and playing some music in musikcube.

Is it possible the cause it the fact I clocked it up to 400mhz even though its more than capable of it, and is there a problem with using all the ram slots at once, as i've never used all the ram slots on a motherboard before.

My motherboard is a sapphire pure innovation and i'm running Windows XP x64 if anyone knows any settings that might make it more stable or general advise it would be much appriecated as I have to say i'm not well up on this sort of stuff I like to plug it in and it just work.

Chaos · Jan 31, 2006, 12:39 AM

Did you set memory to 1T? If so try 2T then

Grace · Jan 31, 2006, 01:25 AM

95% of the socket 939 motherboards out there cannot drive 4 modules at 200MHz with such aggressive timings as you have set. Try at least setting the command rate to 2T as suggested, or loosen the timings a little bit.

StuRReaL · Jan 31, 2006, 11:04 AM

The motherboard automatically sets the timings and the ram is set to 2T automatically. I'll have more of a play when I get home from work, it was on all last night without a BSOD. I noticed there are 2 settings for the ram speed both were set to 166 by the motherboard but I only altered one of them which might have caused the problem but i dunno i'll see later.

StuRReaL · Jan 31, 2006, 09:03 PM

Nope still BSODing

does anyone know what setting to set for the memory. If I have it set to auto then it works perfectly but its not very fast

due to the memory running at a different clock to the cpu.

I need to know some settings to make it stable while not reducing the speed. I have to admit this whole ram thing is very confusing, and I just need someone to tell me what all these settings do as theres load and some stable settings for it.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jan 31, 2006, 10:24 PM

You're gonna have to get 2x 1GB modules, the Athlon 64's have the controller on the CPU and most controllers have a hard time addressing 4 modules at those kinds of speeds anyway. Even my mobo which has the controller on the northbridge automatically knocks the RAM down to 266 MHz when all slots are filled.

StuRReaL · Feb 1, 2006, 12:08 AM

your kidding me!!! WTF? so why do motherboard manufacturers give you 4 slots? thats silly. Can I not run them at 400Mhz with slower timings? and if so how as I don't understand it. Sorry about that rant there i'm getting a little stressed as i've just spend £100 on new ram and it doesn't do as it should

H3X4D3C1M4L · Feb 1, 2006, 01:38 AM

That's just life...not the fault of the RAM. There isn't really anything to be done about it

StuRReaL · Feb 1, 2006, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H3X4D3C1M4L

That's just life...not the fault of the RAM. There isn't really anything to be done about it

I'm sure if they pulled their fingers out of their arses they could do something to make that work correctly, they may not be able to do it with my board but they should at least sort for new ones its stupid having that many slots and not being able to use them at full speed its just idle-ness on their behalf.

Well looks like i'm sending this ram back and sell my current 2x512 stick and buying the overpriced 2x1gb sticks

FFS

H3X4D3C1M4L · Feb 1, 2006, 02:56 PM

Yeah well I'm sure if ATI pulled their fingers out of their arses I'd have a working-as-advertized All In Wonder video card, but there is abysmal software support for 'em so I'm stuck with half of what I payed for.

Believe me, I feel your pain.

Jan 31, 2006, 12:05 AM	#1
StuRReaL DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Derby UK Posts: 78 Rep Power: 0	Ram upgrade issues I've just upgraded my ram from 1gb to 2gb i'm using 4x512mb of OCZ Platinum ram its the 400mhz 2-2-2-5 stuff. For some reason when i switch my computer on it clocked my ram down to 333mhz which I thought was odd for saying its 400mhz ram and my processors fsb is 400mhz too. The problem is I'm getting the odd BSOD and i was only using visual studio 2005 and playing some music in musikcube. Is it possible the cause it the fact I clocked it up to 400mhz even though its more than capable of it, and is there a problem with using all the ram slots at once, as i've never used all the ram slots on a motherboard before. My motherboard is a sapphire pure innovation and i'm running Windows XP x64 if anyone knows any settings that might make it more stable or general advise it would be much appriecated as I have to say i'm not well up on this sort of stuff I like to plug it in and it just work. __________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 4200+ 1GB OCZ Platinum x2 74Gb WD Raptors RAID0 256mb Radeon X1300 Sapphire Pure Innovation M-Audio Revolution 7.1 Windows XP x64 Edition

Jan 31, 2006, 12:39 AM	#2
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,268 Rep Power: 167 System Specs	Did you set memory to 1T? If so try 2T then __________________

Jan 31, 2006, 11:04 AM	Thread Starter #4
StuRReaL DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Derby UK Posts: 78 Rep Power: 0	The motherboard automatically sets the timings and the ram is set to 2T automatically. I'll have more of a play when I get home from work, it was on all last night without a BSOD. I noticed there are 2 settings for the ram speed both were set to 166 by the motherboard but I only altered one of them which might have caused the problem but i dunno i'll see later. __________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 4200+ 1GB OCZ Platinum x2 74Gb WD Raptors RAID0 256mb Radeon X1300 Sapphire Pure Innovation M-Audio Revolution 7.1 Windows XP x64 Edition

Jan 31, 2006, 09:03 PM	Thread Starter #5
StuRReaL DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Derby UK Posts: 78 Rep Power: 0	Nope still BSODing does anyone know what setting to set for the memory. If I have it set to auto then it works perfectly but its not very fast due to the memory running at a different clock to the cpu. I need to know some settings to make it stable while not reducing the speed. I have to admit this whole ram thing is very confusing, and I just need someone to tell me what all these settings do as theres load and some stable settings for it. __________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 4200+ 1GB OCZ Platinum x2 74Gb WD Raptors RAID0 256mb Radeon X1300 Sapphire Pure Innovation M-Audio Revolution 7.1 Windows XP x64 Edition

Feb 1, 2006, 12:08 AM	Thread Starter #7
StuRReaL DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Derby UK Posts: 78 Rep Power: 0	your kidding me!!! WTF? so why do motherboard manufacturers give you 4 slots? thats silly. Can I not run them at 400Mhz with slower timings? and if so how as I don't understand it. Sorry about that rant there i'm getting a little stressed as i've just spend £100 on new ram and it doesn't do as it should __________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 4200+ 1GB OCZ Platinum x2 74Gb WD Raptors RAID0 256mb Radeon X1300 Sapphire Pure Innovation M-Audio Revolution 7.1 Windows XP x64 Edition

Jan 31, 2006, 01:25 AM	#3
Grace HH's Tomboy Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Anywhere but in my house! Posts: 776 Rep Power: 56	95% of the socket 939 motherboards out there cannot drive 4 modules at 200MHz with such aggressive timings as you have set. Try at least setting the command rate to 2T as suggested, or loosen the timings a little bit.

Jan 31, 2006, 10:24 PM	#6
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	You're gonna have to get 2x 1GB modules, the Athlon 64's have the controller on the CPU and most controllers have a hard time addressing 4 modules at those kinds of speeds anyway. Even my mobo which has the controller on the northbridge automatically knocks the RAM down to 266 MHz when all slots are filled.

Feb 1, 2006, 01:38 AM	#8
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	That's just life...not the fault of the RAM. There isn't really anything to be done about it

Feb 1, 2006, 02:56 PM	#10
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Yeah well I'm sure if ATI pulled their fingers out of their arses I'd have a working-as-advertized All In Wonder video card, but there is abysmal software support for 'em so I'm stuck with half of what I payed for. Believe me, I feel your pain.