MSI 8800GTX slow bench mark

batta · Dec 26, 2006, 09:14 AM

Hey All,

First time poster...

I was wondering if you all could be of assistance. I have recently gone out and purchased a new comp (specs on the side <---) and wanted to bench mark this puppy to see how the [COLOR=#000080][COLOR=#000080 ! important][COLOR=#000080 ! important]video [/COLOR][COLOR=#000080 ! important]card[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] went. So i tried it out on 3DMark06. Seeing as my monitor has not come in as yet, im just using a 17" CRT which isnt the greatest resolution wise, so i just put it on full detail at 1024x768. I dont know what is wrong, but im only averaging something like 20fps !!! at these graphics i would of been expecting a 1 in front of those figures.

I had the lastest nvidia drivers, but have heard there have been some problems, so i just uninstalled them and installed earlier drivers, i believe the 96.89. Though am still getting the same FPS.

Any ideas on why this is running soooooooo slow ????

Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

Edit: I left out that i am running Windows XP Pro x64

aNy_oNE · Dec 27, 2006, 03:28 AM

Hmm.. those numbers could be right. If it goes higher more than lower. 3DMark06 as I understand is a pretty hard test. Although you would think on 1024x768 it would be getting higher... Is it a new install of Windows? Maybe it's the monitor holding you back... although I doubt it. Just try general fixes, install latest drivers after drivercleaner, change settings etc. Maybe someone else can shed more light onto this situation

What's the actual score it's getting?

fobis · Dec 27, 2006, 06:14 AM

Well, if you're trying to compare your score to other scores, then you should run 3DMark06 at default settings. Don't change ANYTHING, including resolution, detail level, etc.

batta · Dec 27, 2006, 08:18 AM

ive just been playing Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas and it gets jerky on 1024x768 on full detail...i dunno wtf is wrong...

fobis · Dec 27, 2006, 09:03 AM

Do you have all of your motherboard drivers installed and everything?
And just FYI, Windows XP 64-bit is not exactly the OS of choice for gaming, which is why most stick to the 32-bit version for now.
But, I think it's the drivers that are the culprit right now.

batta · Dec 27, 2006, 09:06 AM

yeah, i installed all the mobo drivers.

as for the OS, yeah i know its not the greatest for gaming, but i needed the 64bit verison as standard xp pro does not let you run 4gig of ram...

fobis · Dec 27, 2006, 09:12 AM

well, the most extreme "troubleshooting" you can do to see if the OS is the culprit is temporarily install XP 32-bit and take out 2gb of ram and test.
of course, if you do that, i'd suggest some video drivers like DHzer0point.
i know that's a little extreme, but hey, it's an idea.

batta · Dec 27, 2006, 09:51 AM

yeah, i was thinking that, but really want to make that a last resort.

running at all default settings in 3dmark 06, i managed to get 2996...so its got massive problems, it should be 3x that...

ahhh, im pulling my hair out atm, :@

fobis · Dec 27, 2006, 10:33 AM

Well, the only thing I can think of at the moment is faulty drivers or just Windows. I'm more inclined to think it's just Windows, but that's just me.

aNy_oNE · Dec 27, 2006, 08:19 PM

Yeah... for some reason (unless it was designed for it), most things don't like x64

Probably because most people don't use it (yet) and M$ aren't as inclined to release "bug fixes".

RaveneR · Dec 28, 2006, 08:30 PM

somehow i think the problem lies with windows...

your C2D processor is a 32bit processor, not 64, therefore when you try to use a 64bit OS with the 32bit processor, things tend to get bottlenecked...

tastyweat · Dec 28, 2006, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaveneR

somehow i think the problem lies with windows...

your C2D processor is a 32bit processor, not 64, therefore when you try to use a 64bit OS with the 32bit processor, things tend to get bottlenecked...

Ummm... no... the Core 2 Duo IS a 64bit processor

aNy_oNE · Dec 29, 2006, 12:58 AM

Whew, if it wasn't, WTF lol. I'd say if you can't fix it any other way, install 32 bit windows.

RaveneR · Dec 29, 2006, 06:05 AM

ooo my bad, i didnt know c2d is a 64bit processor...

fobis · Dec 29, 2006, 10:27 PM

lol, C2D is definitely a 64-bit capable CPU.
Anyways, batta, you got any news for us?

RaveneR · Dec 30, 2006, 06:29 AM

are all dual core processors, no matter if its Centrino Duo, Core Duo or Core 2 Duo 64bit?

nvm i found the answer on the intel website, was refering to their technical datasheets...

but 1 thing i cant find is, if they are all using the same sockets?

Hapatingjaky · Dec 30, 2006, 09:18 AM

This may not mean much but I was recently told by a moderator of a very reputable Nvidia forum that Nvidia does not care about 64Bit Windows...

Here's what I suggest trying:

1.) Uninstall your Nvidia drivers.
2.) Enter safemode and run drivercleaner. Make sure to first clean the DRIVER.CAB and then proceed to clean the Nvidia drivers.
3.) Restart the PC and download the latest version of Driectx 9.0c decemeber release. Get it at this link here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
4.) Next download the latest chipset driver from the following link:
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scri...9&submit=Go%21
5.) Next download the latest X64bit driver for your 8800:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp64_97.44.html
6.) I suggest setting all options in the Nvidia Control Pannel to Application preference and give 3DMark a try.

Hopefuly things will speed up for you.

Edit: Also please post the modle and wattage of your Power Supply. Having a POS power supply combined with an 8800 has been known to produce poor performance.

**kris23** · Dec 30, 2006, 08:18 PM

i kinda think its the x64 bit OS you're using yea a lot of stuff hates it.... but i thought xp pro 32 bit supports up to 4 gigs of ram and 64 bit supports up to 8 gigs some one correct me if im wrong

**kris23** · Dec 30, 2006, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Supports up to 4 gigabytes (GB) of RAM and up to two symmetric multiprocessors.

this quote was pulled from microsoft.com about windows XP 32 bit edition
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p.../features.mspx

so get that cheap OS off ur system

Dec 26, 2006, 09:14 AM	#1
batta DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	MSI 8800GTX slow bench mark Hey All, First time poster... I was wondering if you all could be of assistance. I have recently gone out and purchased a new comp (specs on the side <---) and wanted to bench mark this puppy to see how the [COLOR=#000080][COLOR=#000080 ! important][COLOR=#000080 ! important]video [/COLOR][COLOR=#000080 ! important]card[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] went. So i tried it out on 3DMark06. Seeing as my monitor has not come in as yet, im just using a 17" CRT which isnt the greatest resolution wise, so i just put it on full detail at 1024x768. I dont know what is wrong, but im only averaging something like 20fps !!! at these graphics i would of been expecting a 1 in front of those figures. I had the lastest nvidia drivers, but have heard there have been some problems, so i just uninstalled them and installed earlier drivers, i believe the 96.89. Though am still getting the same FPS. Any ideas on why this is running soooooooo slow ???? Thanks. Regards, Dave Edit: I left out that i am running Windows XP Pro x64

Dec 27, 2006, 06:14 AM	#3
fobis DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 716 Rep Power: 49	Well, if you're trying to compare your score to other scores, then you should run 3DMark06 at default settings. Don't change ANYTHING, including resolution, detail level, etc. __________________ MacBook Pro Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.4 Intel Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz 2GB DDR2-677 ATi Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB 120GB 7200RPM SATA HDD

Dec 27, 2006, 09:03 AM	#5
fobis DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 716 Rep Power: 49	Do you have all of your motherboard drivers installed and everything? And just FYI, Windows XP 64-bit is not exactly the OS of choice for gaming, which is why most stick to the 32-bit version for now. But, I think it's the drivers that are the culprit right now. __________________ MacBook Pro Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.4 Intel Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz 2GB DDR2-677 ATi Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB 120GB 7200RPM SATA HDD

Dec 27, 2006, 09:12 AM	#7
fobis DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 716 Rep Power: 49	well, the most extreme "troubleshooting" you can do to see if the OS is the culprit is temporarily install XP 32-bit and take out 2gb of ram and test. of course, if you do that, i'd suggest some video drivers like DHzer0point. i know that's a little extreme, but hey, it's an idea. __________________ MacBook Pro Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.4 Intel Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz 2GB DDR2-677 ATi Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB 120GB 7200RPM SATA HDD

Dec 27, 2006, 10:33 AM	#9
fobis DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 716 Rep Power: 49	Well, the only thing I can think of at the moment is faulty drivers or just Windows. I'm more inclined to think it's just Windows, but that's just me. __________________ MacBook Pro Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.4 Intel Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz 2GB DDR2-677 ATi Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB 120GB 7200RPM SATA HDD

Dec 27, 2006, 03:28 AM	#2
aNy_oNE DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 162 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Hmm.. those numbers could be right. If it goes higher more than lower. 3DMark06 as I understand is a pretty hard test. Although you would think on 1024x768 it would be getting higher... Is it a new install of Windows? Maybe it's the monitor holding you back... although I doubt it. Just try general fixes, install latest drivers after drivercleaner, change settings etc. Maybe someone else can shed more light onto this situation What's the actual score it's getting?

Dec 27, 2006, 08:18 AM	Thread Starter #4
batta DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	ive just been playing Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas and it gets jerky on 1024x768 on full detail...i dunno wtf is wrong...

Dec 27, 2006, 09:06 AM	Thread Starter #6
batta DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	yeah, i installed all the mobo drivers. as for the OS, yeah i know its not the greatest for gaming, but i needed the 64bit verison as standard xp pro does not let you run 4gig of ram...

Dec 27, 2006, 09:51 AM	Thread Starter #8
batta DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	yeah, i was thinking that, but really want to make that a last resort. running at all default settings in 3dmark 06, i managed to get 2996...so its got massive problems, it should be 3x that... ahhh, im pulling my hair out atm, :@

Dec 27, 2006, 08:19 PM	#10
aNy_oNE DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 162 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Yeah... for some reason (unless it was designed for it), most things don't like x64 Probably because most people don't use it (yet) and M$ aren't as inclined to release "bug fixes".

Dec 28, 2006, 08:30 PM	#11
RaveneR DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 196 Rep Power: 0	somehow i think the problem lies with windows... your C2D processor is a 32bit processor, not 64, therefore when you try to use a 64bit OS with the 32bit processor, things tend to get bottlenecked...

Dec 29, 2006, 12:58 AM	#13
aNy_oNE DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 162 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Whew, if it wasn't, WTF lol. I'd say if you can't fix it any other way, install 32 bit windows.

Dec 29, 2006, 06:05 AM	#14
RaveneR DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 196 Rep Power: 0	ooo my bad, i didnt know c2d is a 64bit processor...

Dec 29, 2006, 10:27 PM	#15
fobis DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 716 Rep Power: 49	lol, C2D is definitely a 64-bit capable CPU. Anyways, batta, you got any news for us? __________________ MacBook Pro Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.4 Intel Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz 2GB DDR2-677 ATi Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB 120GB 7200RPM SATA HDD

Dec 30, 2006, 06:29 AM	#16
RaveneR DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 196 Rep Power: 0	are all dual core processors, no matter if its Centrino Duo, Core Duo or Core 2 Duo 64bit? nvm i found the answer on the intel website, was refering to their technical datasheets... but 1 thing i cant find is, if they are all using the same sockets? Last edited by RaveneR; Dec 30, 2006 at 06:49 AM. Reason: laziness for not finding out on my own

Dec 30, 2006, 09:18 AM	#17
Hapatingjaky DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2006 Location: Edmonton AB Posts: 140 Rep Power: 0	This may not mean much but I was recently told by a moderator of a very reputable Nvidia forum that Nvidia does not care about 64Bit Windows... Here's what I suggest trying: 1.) Uninstall your Nvidia drivers. 2.) Enter safemode and run drivercleaner. Make sure to first clean the DRIVER.CAB and then proceed to clean the Nvidia drivers. 3.) Restart the PC and download the latest version of Driectx 9.0c decemeber release. Get it at this link here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en 4.) Next download the latest chipset driver from the following link: http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scri...9&submit=Go%21 5.) Next download the latest X64bit driver for your 8800: http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp64_97.44.html 6.) I suggest setting all options in the Nvidia Control Pannel to Application preference and give 3DMark a try. Hopefuly things will speed up for you. Edit: Also please post the modle and wattage of your Power Supply. Having a POS power supply combined with an 8800 has been known to produce poor performance. __________________ Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800, Asus Striker, OCZ 4096MB PC2-6400 EL Platinum XTC Edition DDR2, XFX 8800GTX, Creative Labs Soundblaster X-FI Elite Pro, Seagate Barracuda 750GB SATAII NCQ Enabled 16MB Cache Raid 0, Seagate Barracuda 750GB SATAII NCQ Enabled 16MB Cache Raid 0, LiteOn SHW-160P6S 16x16 DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive, Logitech G7 Gaming Mouse, Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard, Thermaltake Armor Chassis With 4x120MM Blue LED ICAGE Fans and 2x80MM Blue LED Fans, OCZ GameXtreme 700WATT PSU, Windows XP Professional X64 Edition & Windows Vista Premium X64, ViewSonic VX2234WM, Creative Gigaworks S750 7.1 Speaker System.

Dec 30, 2006, 08:18 PM	#18
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,990 Rep Power: 121 System Specs	i kinda think its the x64 bit OS you're using yea a lot of stuff hates it.... but i thought xp pro 32 bit supports up to 4 gigs of ram and 64 bit supports up to 8 gigs some one correct me if im wrong