Slight Issue

aNy_oNE · Jan 28, 2008, 06:37 AM

I have a bit of an issue with mouse lag. The only game I really play at the moment is Warcraft III TFT, but it needs a lot of quick mouse-work so this is really annoying. I lowered the "pre-render limit" (I think that's what it's called off the top of my head) in nHancer, which helped somewhat, but it is still not gone.

I didn't have this issue with my old Radeon 7000, which only rendered the game at 16fps, so it shouldn't be the framerate at issue. (This was in a different PC though.)

Does anyone know of any other ways to reduce mouse lag on nVidia cards?

EDIT: oh yeah, the card is an integrated 6100.

Methious · Feb 1, 2008, 10:34 AM

It's probably your integrated graphics chip itself that's the problem rather than the mouse or game, integrated graphics run modern games horribly. Put back a few bucks and snatch an nVidea 7800 or above. Unless your gaming on a monster monitor a 7800 will do you good, and 8800 will leave you drooling.

CDsDontBurn · Feb 1, 2008, 12:22 PM

@ any_one: the 'pre-render limit' you're talking about is known as v-sync. and i don't think you mean to say 'nHancer' i think you might be talking about ntune.

could you be more specific about the mouse lag though? what kind of mouse do you have? is it wired or wireless? i ask because that would likely have something to do with it. the mouse lag you speak of may also be due to the lower-end gfx card that 's pre-built into your machine.

@ methious: the 7800 series cards have been discontinued. in a pci-e format card, i would say that the entry level gfx card for gaming would be the 8600GTS card.

Vikingod · Feb 1, 2008, 06:00 PM

What he is talking about is "Max Frames to Render Ahead", not v-sync, and lowering it should help a bit.

Like CD's said, it could be that the setting you have set are too high for that card. It could also be latency (ping) issues with WoW. I'd first try to lower your ingame settings.

aNy_oNE · Feb 3, 2008, 04:58 AM

Quote:

What he is talking about is "Max Frames to Render Ahead", not v-sync,

Yes, that's right, and I was also talking about nHancer (http://www.nhancer.com), not nTune. Also the game is not WoW it is WarCraft 3 (older, and an RTS)

It's weird though because the framerate is perfectly fine (like 30+, fine for an RTS).. and the Radeon was at like 16 and it seemed less laggy.. the mouse is a Razer Krait (wired) and I set the USB polling rate to 500 Hz, so that should be fine.. (I used a mouse rate checking program to confirm that it is actually going at 500hz)

I guess I'll try lowering the in game settings a bit.. although it looks kinda bad on this 22" LCD

Probably the best solution like you say is to get a graphics card.. sigh.

Methious · Feb 4, 2008, 03:25 AM

22 inch LCD

yea I'd say invest in a new Video card, 8800 series 512 memory or better. That's a big LCD.

aNy_oNE · Feb 7, 2008, 03:58 AM

Ah! I seem to have made it a bit better - the "PCI Latency Timer" setting in the BIOS was at 64 - I changed it to 32 and there seems to be less lag. I guess it's because 64 is longer than the mouse needs to send all its data for that frame.. anyway, thanks for the replies.

Jan 28, 2008, 06:37 AM	#1
aNy_oNE DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 162 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Slight Issue I have a bit of an issue with mouse lag. The only game I really play at the moment is Warcraft III TFT, but it needs a lot of quick mouse-work so this is really annoying. I lowered the "pre-render limit" (I think that's what it's called off the top of my head) in nHancer, which helped somewhat, but it is still not gone. I didn't have this issue with my old Radeon 7000, which only rendered the game at 16fps, so it shouldn't be the framerate at issue. (This was in a different PC though.) Does anyone know of any other ways to reduce mouse lag on nVidia cards? EDIT: oh yeah, the card is an integrated 6100.

Feb 1, 2008, 12:22 PM	#3
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,794 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	@ any_one: the 'pre-render limit' you're talking about is known as v-sync. and i don't think you mean to say 'nHancer' i think you might be talking about ntune. could you be more specific about the mouse lag though? what kind of mouse do you have? is it wired or wireless? i ask because that would likely have something to do with it. the mouse lag you speak of may also be due to the lower-end gfx card that 's pre-built into your machine. @ methious: the 7800 series cards have been discontinued. in a pci-e format card, i would say that the entry level gfx card for gaming would be the 8600GTS card. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Feb 1, 2008, 10:34 AM	#2
Methious DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 62 Rep Power: 0	It's probably your integrated graphics chip itself that's the problem rather than the mouse or game, integrated graphics run modern games horribly. Put back a few bucks and snatch an nVidea 7800 or above. Unless your gaming on a monster monitor a 7800 will do you good, and 8800 will leave you drooling.

Feb 1, 2008, 06:00 PM	#4
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,197 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	What he is talking about is "Max Frames to Render Ahead", not v-sync, and lowering it should help a bit. Like CD's said, it could be that the setting you have set are too high for that card. It could also be latency (ping) issues with WoW. I'd first try to lower your ingame settings.

Feb 4, 2008, 03:25 AM	#6
Methious DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 62 Rep Power: 0	22 inch LCD yea I'd say invest in a new Video card, 8800 series 512 memory or better. That's a big LCD.

Feb 7, 2008, 03:58 AM	Thread Starter #7
aNy_oNE DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 162 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Ah! I seem to have made it a bit better - the "PCI Latency Timer" setting in the BIOS was at 64 - I changed it to 32 and there seems to be less lag. I guess it's because 64 is longer than the mouse needs to send all its data for that frame.. anyway, thanks for the replies.