ditch my fx 5900 ultra

Down1oader · Sep 11, 2003, 12:35 PM

i heard they are releasing new detonator drivers 50.xx, will they increase performance so the card is better than a 9800 pro??
i need to know now so i can decide to sell my msi fx 5900 ultra and get a radeon 9800 pro

The_Neon_Cowboy · Sep 11, 2003, 01:53 PM

Lol ... yea they'll most likely increase the 30% cheats in their drivers to 40% lol.... so take the benchmark score minus 30% and u get 5900's real score....

Don’t be leave everything you hear.......

9800 pro rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Warpy · Sep 11, 2003, 02:32 PM

Well since i saw the post HLF2 performance i am selling my nvidia card and so is our clan - 10 of us in total. So Nvidia can read this and perhaps take note of the publics view on their fantastic repuation with that excellent moto "The way games are meant to be played"... i guess they mean loss of frame rate. i also saw a moto on their site and it says "The world wide leader in visual processing solutions" Anyone prove this?

Zardon · Sep 11, 2003, 02:36 PM

you never know whats just around the corner

**MIG-31** · Sep 11, 2003, 02:40 PM

theoretically new drivers should improve things for g/cards but i have always had problems with performance with nvidia cards including several driver updates so i wouldn't hold up much hope for the 50.** drivers.

but could be worth holding on just a little longer to try those out first to see how they are.unless you need to change as quick as possible.

Warpy · Sep 11, 2003, 02:41 PM

Are you refering to a past conversation we had Zardon about you knowing stuff and not being able to publicly release the info?!!

Rayder · Sep 11, 2003, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Down1oader
......will they increase performance so the card is better than a 9800 pro??

From what I've been able to determine, the only way to beat the performance of a 9800Pro is to overclock a 9800Pro.
nVidia's current line of cards just aren't up to the task in DX9 apps. ATI just straight-up whooped their butts this time around and that's all there is to it.

Warpy · Sep 11, 2003, 02:48 PM

Well put sir!

* I rest my case *

**MIG-31** · Sep 11, 2003, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mitchelson

Are you refering to a past conversation we had Zardon about you knowing stuff and not being able to publicly release the info?!!

if that is aimed at me then no.just a thought of try out before u ditch.but now seeing what raider1 has just posted you might be better going for the 9800pro.

Warpy · Sep 11, 2003, 02:54 PM

At this stage the 9800 PRO 256Mb would be my pref. But I may hold back and see what is around the "Corner"

Zardon · Sep 11, 2003, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mitchelson

Are you refering to a past conversation we had Zardon about you knowing stuff and not being able to publicly release the info?!!

well of course I cant post information on forthcoming products ! id get in trouble

dipstick · Sep 11, 2003, 03:31 PM

I will wait for the 50 dets to come out and if they suck its getting pulled for sure. The 9800P is an amazing card and we are finally getting a taste of its true power.

Zardon · Sep 11, 2003, 03:51 PM

kakarot did you buy a 5900 ultra? did I miss this?

Vengeance · Sep 11, 2003, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mitchelson

Are you refering to a past conversation we had Zardon about you knowing stuff and not being able to publicly release the info?!!

LOL yeah hes good at leave little scraps of info about aint he, just enough to get us to say

dipstick · Sep 11, 2003, 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by Zardon
kakarot did you buy a 5900 ultra? did I miss this?

hehe, kind of. I think I told ya a while ago I had the chance to play around with one and I kinda ended up selling my old 9700P for it since the price was way too good to pass up at the time. I did screw myself because I gave my brother probably one of the best OCing 9800's on the planet and the 5900s turned out to be a joke, but I am grabbing the new ATi offering as soon as it comes out for sure. The thing that really suxs though is that I had to buy my 9700 back because it didn't work out for the person who bought it, so I'm stuck with all these useless cards, lol. Life is good at coming back and kicking ya in the balls my friend.

Warpy · Sep 11, 2003, 04:29 PM

Are you selling an ATI card as well?

dipstick · Sep 11, 2003, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mitchelson
Are you selling an ATI card as well?

You mean the 9700P? Well, I was told it was giving the checker boarding effect in games although it was fine in 2D. It worked fine for me, but maybe it got damaged during shipping. I will have to test it out before I consider selling it again; I can’t be selling and buying back cards because they don't work lol.

Warpy · Sep 11, 2003, 04:51 PM

Very true sir!

However you give me a price if u wanna sell that 9700 PRO and I'll sort you out with the $$$ via wire transfer.

I shall wash my hands of this NVIDIA flith!

Down1oader · Sep 11, 2003, 06:37 PM

arent ATI's better performers on half life 2 because they got to optimize their drivers earlier as they are a valve partner, if so then surely the new detonators will perform the same or better. if those drivers dont come out soon like in a week im swpaping my card for a 9800 pro 256 mb i dont think theyll let me return it after the time its already been. any suggestions on a 9800pro to buy?

**MIG-31** · Sep 11, 2003, 07:13 PM

read this article

guru3d forum

EFA11 · Sep 12, 2003, 03:11 PM

Kgentatszu] · Sep 12, 2003, 06:26 PM

ROTF~LOL<------------- i fell off my chair mate! you make me FALL! ~LOL Rotf~LOL

Kgentatszu] · Sep 12, 2003, 06:28 PM

anyway, guys, who is selling their cards??? i''m somewhat interested........but only in trades...

Vengeance · Sep 12, 2003, 06:31 PM

Saw this over at nvnews

Vengeance · Sep 12, 2003, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Maxxypoos
anyway, guys, who is selling their cards??? i''m somewhat interested........but only in trades...

I'll trade you my 9700 Pro, and say.............cough*mywife*cough.......for a 9800 Pro!

Kgentatszu] · Sep 12, 2003, 06:51 PM

Vengence, where the hell did you manage to get the picture??? oh and vengence, i dont have a 9800, i only own a Radeon7000se......wanna trade??

Vengeance · Sep 12, 2003, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Maxxypoos
Vengence, where the hell did you manage to get the picture??? oh and vengence, i dont have a 9800, i only own a Radeon7000se......wanna trade??

Got the pic at nvnews.
And no....Think I'll hold on to my 9700 Pro and....errr well maybe the wife

Sep 11, 2003, 12:35 PM	#1
Down1oader DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Uk, England Posts: 78 Rep Power: 0	ditch my fx 5900 ultra i heard they are releasing new detonator drivers 50.xx, will they increase performance so the card is better than a 9800 pro?? i need to know now so i can decide to sell my msi fx 5900 ultra and get a radeon 9800 pro

Sep 11, 2003, 01:53 PM	#2
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	Lol ... yea they'll most likely increase the 30% cheats in their drivers to 40% lol.... so take the benchmark score minus 30% and u get 5900's real score.... Don’t be leave everything you hear....... 9800 pro rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Last edited by The_Neon_Cowboy; Sep 14, 2003 at 12:42 PM.

Sep 11, 2003, 02:32 PM	#3
Warpy DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,761 Rep Power: 0	Well since i saw the post HLF2 performance i am selling my nvidia card and so is our clan - 10 of us in total. So Nvidia can read this and perhaps take note of the publics view on their fantastic repuation with that excellent moto "The way games are meant to be played"... i guess they mean loss of frame rate. i also saw a moto on their site and it says "The world wide leader in visual processing solutions" Anyone prove this? __________________ The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Sep 11, 2003, 02:40 PM	#5
MIG-31 HardwareHeaven News Mod Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nottingham,UK Posts: 56,843 Rep Power: 471 System Specs	theoretically new drivers should improve things for g/cards but i have always had problems with performance with nvidia cards including several driver updates so i wouldn't hold up much hope for the 50. drivers. but could be worth holding on just a little longer to try those out first to see how they are.unless you need to change as quick as possible. __________________ Please Post Your News Submissions Here**

Sep 11, 2003, 02:41 PM	#6
Warpy DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,761 Rep Power: 0	Are you refering to a past conversation we had Zardon about you knowing stuff and not being able to publicly release the info?!! __________________ The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Sep 11, 2003, 02:36 PM	#4
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	you never know whats just around the corner

Sep 11, 2003, 02:48 PM	#8
Warpy DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,761 Rep Power: 0	Well put sir! * I rest my case * __________________ The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Sep 11, 2003, 02:54 PM	#10
Warpy DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,761 Rep Power: 0	At this stage the 9800 PRO 256Mb would be my pref. But I may hold back and see what is around the "Corner" __________________ The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Sep 11, 2003, 03:31 PM	#12
dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	I will wait for the 50 dets to come out and if they suck its getting pulled for sure. The 9800P is an amazing card and we are finally getting a taste of its true power.

Sep 11, 2003, 03:51 PM	#13
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	kakarot did you buy a 5900 ultra? did I miss this?

Sep 11, 2003, 04:29 PM	#16
Warpy DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,761 Rep Power: 0	Are you selling an ATI card as well? __________________ The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Sep 11, 2003, 04:51 PM	#18
Warpy DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,761 Rep Power: 0	Very true sir! However you give me a price if u wanna sell that 9700 PRO and I'll sort you out with the $$$ via wire transfer. I shall wash my hands of this NVIDIA flith! __________________ The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Sep 11, 2003, 06:37 PM	Thread Starter #19
Down1oader DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Uk, England Posts: 78 Rep Power: 0	arent ATI's better performers on half life 2 because they got to optimize their drivers earlier as they are a valve partner, if so then surely the new detonators will perform the same or better. if those drivers dont come out soon like in a week im swpaping my card for a 9800 pro 256 mb i dont think theyll let me return it after the time its already been. any suggestions on a 9800pro to buy?

Sep 11, 2003, 07:13 PM	#20
MIG-31 HardwareHeaven News Mod Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nottingham,UK Posts: 56,843 Rep Power: 471 System Specs	this might help read this article guru3d forum __________________ Please Post Your News Submissions Here

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Kgentatszu] DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,802 Rep Power: 0	ROTF~LOL<------------- i fell off my chair mate! you make me FALL! ~LOL Rotf~LOL

Sep 12, 2003, 06:28 PM	#23
Kgentatszu] DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,802 Rep Power: 0	anyway, guys, who is selling their cards??? i''m somewhat interested........but only in trades...

Sep 12, 2003, 06:31 PM	#24
Vengeance DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fort Worth TX Posts: 643 Rep Power: 0	Saw this over at nvnews __________________ [color=red]Rage3D Super Moderator[/color] [color=red]BFG 6800 GT [/color]

Sep 12, 2003, 06:51 PM	#26
Kgentatszu] DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,802 Rep Power: 0	Vengence, where the hell did you manage to get the picture??? oh and vengence, i dont have a 9800, i only own a Radeon7000se......wanna trade??