Gainward Geforce FX 5200 card worse then Geforce 4 TI4200?

LoneGreyWolf20 · Oct 23, 2003, 12:17 AM

I bought a computer back in March to become my gaming computer. Here are the specs:

Windows 98SE
P4 2.4 GHZ Processor
Geforce 4TI 4200 128mb 8x
512 MBs DDR Ram
C-Media Audio Card

The video card bought with the system slowley started to crap out and I ended up having to get it replaced. I first called the company that I bought teh computer from which will go unamed at this time ( it is isn't a major company BTW ) and they told me they will replace the card for me with a Geforce FX 5200 card free of charge. I got the card today and just installed it a little while ago and ran a Benchmark on it (MasmoBench) and it actually only scored a 548 which is about 300 under what I had scored before with the Geforce 4 card. Looking at other results it seems that this card rates below even a Geforce 3 card and just above a Geforce 2 MX400 card. Is this the norm with this card? Can I get better scores out of it some how?

I have tried to use the Omega drivers for me OS and it tells me that it cannot find Nvidia Disks 1 - 6 or so and then when I skip through it because I don't have these "disks" and I look at my DXDiag it says that the drivers that I have are the same ones before I installed the Omega ones, but it says Omega next to it... is this normal?

Donovan Jones

jaysavesthedayy · Oct 24, 2003, 04:59 PM

dood, your Ti4200 is so much better than FX 5200. A finely tuned 4200 can easily whoop an FX 5200 ultra (in games that arent in DX9 and dont have AA turned on)

realjessy · Oct 29, 2003, 01:47 AM

of course yes!

blah · Oct 30, 2003, 12:53 AM

The FX serires is really not a DX 9 card. Its really pretending. DX 8 is good enough

means96 · Nov 1, 2003, 10:11 PM

I have an Asus 8200 Deluxe = G-Force 3. I purchased a 5200 Ultra figuring it would have to work better only to discover a 3D Mark 2003 drop of 265 points, and the graphics werent any better.

Dimension_IV · Nov 3, 2003, 06:08 AM

Well, and I made this discovery. Make sure that GF FX 5200 doesn't have a 64-bit memory bus!

What are the results of some of your other benchmarks? I'd love to know as I just bought a BFG GeForce FX 5200 to replace my dead Ti4600 (too broke to afford a good card).

Wildman95gs-t · Nov 8, 2003, 12:59 AM

I get 10541 on 3DMark2001SE, with settings of 800x600 16 bit with everything turned off. I have gotten 11165 defore my XP2200 crapped out, i get 1811 on 3DMark03

I have a friend that just bought a PNY FX5200 ULTRA 128 Mb and his system is very simular to mine except he has an XP2100+ and a mobo that support 8X mine is only 4X and he gets only around 10000 on 3DMark2001SE, he does get better on 3DMark03, around 2500.

gpuica · Dec 7, 2003, 07:16 PM

maybe we should compare in-game fps...(depends on your computer), i o/c-ed my ti4200 to 270/570

if you hav the nfs:u demo, tell me whats your lowest fps in the first curve with all the cars right in front of you and with these settings (try using FRAPS):

1024x768

Card Settings:
3
LOW
0
OFF
HIGH
OFF
0
1
ON
ON
ON
ON
ON
(tell me if i missed something)

remember: you can use alt+tab to check these settings while in the menu/racing

Oct 23, 2003, 12:17 AM	#1
LoneGreyWolf20 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Gainward Geforce FX 5200 card worse then Geforce 4 TI4200? I bought a computer back in March to become my gaming computer. Here are the specs: Windows 98SE P4 2.4 GHZ Processor Geforce 4TI 4200 128mb 8x 512 MBs DDR Ram C-Media Audio Card The video card bought with the system slowley started to crap out and I ended up having to get it replaced. I first called the company that I bought teh computer from which will go unamed at this time ( it is isn't a major company BTW ) and they told me they will replace the card for me with a Geforce FX 5200 card free of charge. I got the card today and just installed it a little while ago and ran a Benchmark on it (MasmoBench) and it actually only scored a 548 which is about 300 under what I had scored before with the Geforce 4 card. Looking at other results it seems that this card rates below even a Geforce 3 card and just above a Geforce 2 MX400 card. Is this the norm with this card? Can I get better scores out of it some how? I have tried to use the Omega drivers for me OS and it tells me that it cannot find Nvidia Disks 1 - 6 or so and then when I skip through it because I don't have these "disks" and I look at my DXDiag it says that the drivers that I have are the same ones before I installed the Omega ones, but it says Omega next to it... is this normal? Donovan Jones

Oct 24, 2003, 04:59 PM	#2
jaysavesthedayy DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: san diego Posts: 33 Rep Power: 0	dood, your Ti4200 is so much better than FX 5200. A finely tuned 4200 can easily whoop an FX 5200 ultra (in games that arent in DX9 and dont have AA turned on) __________________ Bros. Rig 2.20GHz AMD Athlon™ XP 1800+ “Thoroughbred B" DLT3C "JIUHB" (200x11.0 @ 1.55v) \| Epox 8RGMI nForce2 IGP µATX Mainboard \| 512MB Kingston DDR400 ValueRAM (3-3-3-7 @ 2.63v) \| Asus Geforce4 Ti4800SE \| 80GB Maxtor My Rig 1.73GHz AMD Athlon 1700+ “Thoroughbred B" DLT3C "JIUHB" (217x8.0 @ 1.55v) \| ABIT NF7-S Rev 2.0 NForce2 Mainboard \| 2 x 256MB Dual Channel Kingston HyperX DDR400 SDRAM (32M x 64-Bit PC3200 CL2 2.5v 5ns Winbond BH-5 chips, 2-2-2-11 @ 2.9v) \| 128MB ATI 9800 Pro \| 160GB WD HDD

Nov 1, 2003, 10:11 PM	#5
means96 HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 76 Rep Power: 0	5200 is worse than my G force 3 I have an Asus 8200 Deluxe = G-Force 3. I purchased a 5200 Ultra figuring it would have to work better only to discover a 3D Mark 2003 drop of 265 points, and the graphics werent any better.

Nov 3, 2003, 06:08 AM	#6
Dimension_IV DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Tempe, AZ, USA Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0	Well, and I made this discovery. Make sure that GF FX 5200 doesn't have a 64-bit memory bus! What are the results of some of your other benchmarks? I'd love to know as I just bought a BFG GeForce FX 5200 to replace my dead Ti4600 (too broke to afford a good card). __________________ Antec P160 \| Shuttle AN35N 400 \| AMD Athlon XP 2500+@2.4ghz (Barton) \| Mushkin 1GB PC3200 \| ATI Radeon 9700 Pro (Sapphire) \| Hitachi Deskstar 180GXP 60GB \| Microsoft Windows XP Pro SP1

Nov 8, 2003, 12:59 AM	#7
Wildman95gs-t DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dothan, Alabama USA Posts: 224 Rep Power: 0	I get 10541 on 3DMark2001SE, with settings of 800x600 16 bit with everything turned off. I have gotten 11165 defore my XP2200 crapped out, i get 1811 on 3DMark03 I have a friend that just bought a PNY FX5200 ULTRA 128 Mb and his system is very simular to mine except he has an XP2100+ and a mobo that support 8X mine is only 4X and he gets only around 10000 on 3DMark2001SE, he does get better on 3DMark03, around 2500. __________________ AMD Athlon XP3000+ Biostar nForce2 M7NCG 400 Windows XP Home Edition SP3 Albatron 6800GT 256mb 2x1gb G.Skill NS 400DDR in DC Creative X-Fi Xtreme Gamer WD 100Gb 7200 HD Samsung 16x/48x DVD Drive Samsung 40x/12x/40x CDRW Drive ENlight 420 Watt PSU Last edited by Wildman95gs-t; Nov 8, 2003 at 01:07 AM.

Oct 29, 2003, 01:47 AM	#3
realjessy DrvierHeaven Driver Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 110 Rep Power: 0	of course yes!

Oct 30, 2003, 12:53 AM	#4
blah DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 78 Rep Power: 0	The FX serires is really not a DX 9 card. Its really pretending. DX 8 is good enough

Dec 7, 2003, 07:16 PM	#8
gpuica DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: West Windsor, NJ Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	maybe we should compare in-game fps...(depends on your computer), i o/c-ed my ti4200 to 270/570 if you hav the nfs:u demo, tell me whats your lowest fps in the first curve with all the cars right in front of you and with these settings (try using FRAPS): 1024x768 Card Settings: 3 LOW 0 OFF HIGH OFF 0 1 ON ON ON ON ON (tell me if i missed something) remember: you can use alt+tab to check these settings while in the menu/racing