GeForce 6800 Only Has 8 Pipelines?

madcat1488 · Jun 8, 2004, 05:54 PM

though it is an ati review not a nvidia review

BWX · Jun 8, 2004, 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by HawK
um yeh.. forgot to type the "say" please insert it between "won't" and "a"

They where for years a pro NV site, and only recently have seen that there are other V.Card makers

LOL- I knew something was missing....

BWX · Jun 8, 2004, 05:59 PM

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Originally posted by madcat1488
you must not have seen what I said. They are telling the truth just selective in what they say.

Example please.

madcat1488 · Jun 8, 2004, 06:02 PM

go read one of there 6800 reviews then read the one you just looked at and you will what I mean. Actually read a few

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jun 8, 2004, 06:08 PM

RE: Hardocp

Rember this guy came from the upper staff @ www.tomshardware.com when they had a "falling out"

cough "Bias"

BWX · Jun 8, 2004, 06:19 PM

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Originally posted by madcat1488
go read one of there 6800 reviews then read the one you just looked at and you will what I mean. Actually read a few

That's not an example - I'll read whatever I have time to read just like I always do.
I'm still wondering what you are talking about specifically when you say:
" They are telling the truth just selective in what they say."\

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doesn't sound like they are selecting any selective truth to tell here:
same page
"In the first picture above we have a varied landscape to look at and in this comparison we do notice a very slight difference in image quality. It appears that the GeForce 6800U has a sharper, less blurry, ground texture on the slopping hill on the right side of the screenshot. In the second picture above we have cut out a small portion of this hill and have shown this difference in image quality. Look specifically at and around the black blob in the middle of the image. This is not a zoomed in image, it is actual size. You can clearly see how the X800Pro’s image is blurrier than the 6800Ultra’s image."

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I happen to agree with them that in some places the ATI aniso is not as good as Nvidia, I also think that in many places Nvidia's looks blurry compared to ATI's - I still think ATI has some work to do on their aniso filtering, but overall the IQ is much better than Nvidia's looking at the entire picture..

Nacht · Jun 8, 2004, 06:57 PM

Yea, the aniso on the new NV cards isnt as good as it used to be...as they changed the method in which they do it (they switched to the method ATi has always used).

I forget the names of the two methods...im at work right now, ill post later when i find it.

BWX · Jun 8, 2004, 08:45 PM

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Originally posted by rob13800
Yea, the aniso on the new NV cards isnt as good as it used to be...as they changed the method in which they do it (they switched to the method ATi has always used).

I forget the names of the two methods...im at work right now, ill post later when i find it.

Yeah that's right, Nvidia use the same algorithm as ATI does now, but they used to use an algorithm that produced higher image quality at more angles..

The pattern Nvidia used to use looked more circular, now it looks more like this-

seen in this review here

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Also it's explained here too- http://www.beyond3d.com/reviews/ati/...x.php?p=13#tex

"With the default driver settings the Trilinear Filtering looks pretty much as it should, and largely unchanged from how R300 filtered. With Application 16X Anisotropic Filtering (AF) we can see that R420 retains R300’s angle dependency, with it 16X AF being achieved at the 90° angles, 8X AF at the 45° and dropping down to 2X AF at the worst cases. With application controlled AF, the same filtering levels and types are applied across all texture layers."

Shows some good pics too... Maybe the next generation of cards, both ATI and NVIdia will use better filtering...

Nacht · Jun 8, 2004, 11:17 PM

yea thats what im talking about, i just forgot the to algo names they used...i think the one they both use now is called the manhatten scale or something like that. I just remember CGW talking about how they wished ATi had switched to NV's method instead of the other way around.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jun 9, 2004, 12:26 AM

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Originally posted by rob13800
yea thats what im talking about, i just forgot the to algo names they used...i think the one they both use now is called the manhatten scale or something like that. I just remember CGW talking about how they wished ATi had switched to NV's method instead of the other way around.

whay Ati's still way closer to refast, nvidia just moved closer

crlorentzen · Jun 9, 2004, 01:01 AM

@The_Neon_Cowboy, what is refast? BTW: the fact that the drivers change settings depending on games is something people with ATi cards do as well it is that they install a third party tool to do it, AFAIK.

AS well the cheat that you are most often referring to it "Conformant Texture Clamp" being turned off. Thats all that I see in the advanced settings.

purgatory · Jun 10, 2004, 12:07 PM

Wow, thread derailment.. Fanboys are funny , talk about bias???? this place is biased....
Back to the topic:

GeForce 6800 w/ 8 pipeline? - no, full 12!! after bios flash
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13070

Sorry Fanboys but this thread should die....

~~HawK~~ · Jun 10, 2004, 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by purgatory
Wow, thread derailment.. Fanboys are funny , talk about bias???? this place is biased....
Back to the topic:

GeForce 6800 w/ 8 pipeline? - no, full 12!! after bios flash
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13070

And luckely you are not a Fanboy ?
Feel sorry though for alot who never visit forums, and haven't a clue they do have a bad bios

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Sorry Fanboys but this thread should die....

Well posting in this thread again, doesn't help..

purgatory · Jun 10, 2004, 01:31 PM

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Originally posted by HawK
And luckely you are not a Fanboy ?
Feel sorry though for alot who never visit forums, and haven't a clue they do have a bad bios

Well posting in this thread again, doesn't help..

So posting the conclusions of the 8 pipe thread makes me a fanboy??? I guess my 9800 pro would atest to that, oh by the way I own a 5900nu also, I guess nvidia should start sanctioning thier board partners when they f*ck up like ati does.. I posted the fanboy stuff because when a resonable nonbiased person reads a thread full of fanboyism like this one is , thats what screams out at them, Oh well nevermind I just wanted to post the conclusions of what was happening with the 8 pipe thing, sorry to have offended any resonable ati fans, which I dont see how I could of done that, the fanboys are already offended and I dont care and thanks for the freindly welcome to the boards.I should have posted nvidia sux, they lied only 8 pipes!! Then I would have been welcomed here...

~~HawK~~ · Jun 10, 2004, 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by purgatory
So posting the conclusions of the 8 pipe thread makes me a fanboy???

no but naming "us" biased & fanboys doesn't help,
besides most have already read those conclusions and hadn't post therefore since the 8th, except for some after muttering..

but there still is the fact that alot of people have bought the bad-bios card, and alot of them never visit tech-sites or forums, and they have payed for a full working card, or do you believe they will send all buyers an excuse us, we will send you another??

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Oh well nevermind I just wanted to post the conclusions of what was happening with the 8 pipe thing,

Yeah..but it is the 11th so that was a tad late, see my point about resurrecting this thread ?

Jun 8, 2004, 06:08 PM	#35
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	RE: Hardocp Rember this guy came from the upper staff @ www.tomshardware.com when they had a "falling out" cough "Bias" __________________

Jun 9, 2004, 01:01 AM	#41
crlorentzen DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 1,201 Rep Power: 0	@The_Neon_Cowboy, what is refast? BTW: the fact that the drivers change settings depending on games is something people with ATi cards do as well it is that they install a third party tool to do it, AFAIK. AS well the cheat that you are most often referring to it "Conformant Texture Clamp" being turned off. Thats all that I see in the advanced settings. __________________

Jun 8, 2004, 05:54 PM	#31
madcat1488 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 97 Rep Power: 0	though it is an ati review not a nvidia review

Jun 8, 2004, 06:02 PM	#34
madcat1488 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 97 Rep Power: 0	go read one of there 6800 reviews then read the one you just looked at and you will what I mean. Actually read a few

Jun 8, 2004, 06:57 PM	#37
Nacht ein Krieger Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Clemson Uni Posts: 3,127 Rep Power: 0	Yea, the aniso on the new NV cards isnt as good as it used to be...as they changed the method in which they do it (they switched to the method ATi has always used). I forget the names of the two methods...im at work right now, ill post later when i find it.

Jun 8, 2004, 11:17 PM	#39
Nacht ein Krieger Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Clemson Uni Posts: 3,127 Rep Power: 0	yea thats what im talking about, i just forgot the to algo names they used...i think the one they both use now is called the manhatten scale or something like that. I just remember CGW talking about how they wished ATi had switched to NV's method instead of the other way around.

Jun 10, 2004, 12:07 PM	#42
purgatory DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Wow, thread derailment.. Fanboys are funny , talk about bias???? this place is biased.... Back to the topic: GeForce 6800 w/ 8 pipeline? - no, full 12!! after bios flash http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13070 Sorry Fanboys but this thread should die....