Which video card? (help!)

LHC · Apr 24, 2006, 05:15 PM

I kinda need to know quickly about this

I'm just about ready to upgrade my computer, and I was going for an Ati X800GTO, then I came across the nVidia 7600 GT. Problem is.. they both have the ups and downs

The X800GTO from Powercolor is $184 at Newegg. It's 400/980. Apparently, It's very nicely overclocked, and this one from Powercolor has 16 pipes out of the box, and if not you can unlock the 4 pipes.

At TigerDirect, there is a GeForce 7600 GT from XFX. It kills the X800GTO with 590/1600. After rebates, it comes to $170. Problem is the rebates end tomorrow. Also, when it's describing the 7600, it says 256-bit, but on both spec pages it says 128-bit.

Now I'd jump at the GeForce, but it is 128-bit, while the Ati is 256-bit. With that difference in Core/Memory frequencies, would the 128-bit make that much of a difference in comparison to 256-bit?

7600: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...Tab=0&NoMapp=0

X800GTO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131424

Mobo + CPU combo: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...828847&CatId=0

riles9262 · Apr 24, 2006, 05:57 PM

The 7600gt has a memory bus of 128bit...the 256bit may be referring to the core, otherwise it's false advertising. The gto, especially if you can get it to 16 pipes, will outdo the 7600 in performance, but does not have shader 3.0/hdr stuff. They both have great performance for the money, but I'd go for the 7600 to get the new features.

LHC · Apr 24, 2006, 06:02 PM

Hmm, so you think that if I want it to look nicer, get the 7600, but if I care more about performance than quality get the X800?

[hobo]eclipse · Apr 24, 2006, 06:12 PM

the 7600 is only gunna look nicer if you play alot of games that run PS3.0, you can see the difference between PS2.0 and 3.0, but as of now its a small diffence, im sure that will change in a year or so.

LHC · Apr 24, 2006, 06:29 PM

Ok, so I guess I'll go for the 7600, and for a deal like that it seems that the 128-bit is a small price to pay.

Just need to make sure though, even though it says SLI, it'll still work in a non-SLI board as long as it's PCI-E, right?

Thanks guys

riles9262 · Apr 24, 2006, 06:37 PM

If I was buying a new vid card today, I'd want it to have hdr/3.0 capabilities, so yes. The iq of the radeon is of course great, it just is a gen behind in features. If possible, you may want to have a look at the x1800xl or x1800 gto to see what their prices are as well. My choice right now would be the 7900gt, but it's probably way out of the price range...

[hobo]eclipse · Apr 24, 2006, 06:38 PM

should still work, i didnt notice the 7600 was 128-bit memory interface, personally i would want 256-bit, i think this will be a graphics bottleneck for you.

[hobo]eclipse · Apr 24, 2006, 06:42 PM

the x1800GTO saphire is 220 at new egg, plus i seen a few articles round the net about these bein modable to x1800xl's.

LHC · Apr 24, 2006, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [hobo]eclipse

the x1800GTO saphire is 220 at new egg, plus i seen a few articles round the net about these bein modable to x1800xl's.

Yea, I'm looking at those now, and they seem pretty tempting.. is it pretty much the same thing as the 7600, except 256-bit? Like Pixel Shader 3, etc..

LHC · Apr 24, 2006, 06:51 PM

It looks like the Hightech one, people had the most success in flashing it..

[hobo]eclipse · Apr 24, 2006, 06:52 PM

ya, prolly more on par with the lower end 7800 rather than 7600, not to nVidia knowledgeable, different card wise.

LHC · Apr 24, 2006, 07:05 PM

Yea, after looking around for a little bit, people think that the maybe HighTech and Connect3D are the only ones capable of flashing to an XL

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33851710

Look at Lewdvig's posts, and his sig. The Sapphire flashed successfully, but ATI Tool shows 12 pipes still

LHC · Apr 24, 2006, 07:16 PM

I think I'll be getting this one though (out of stock though

):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814142067

Thanks you two for all the help

Falstaff · Apr 24, 2006, 08:37 PM

got three 7800s for my daughter, son and dad, they love Nvidia..

LHC · Apr 24, 2006, 08:43 PM

Except the one i was looking at was 7600.. pretty different if you ask me..

But the X1800GTO comes back in stock on the 28th, just two days before the $60 rebate ends

SSXeon · Apr 25, 2006, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LHC

Except the one i was looking at was 7600.. pretty different if you ask me..

But the X1800GTO comes back in stock on the 28th, just two days before the $60 rebate ends

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814241009

Gecube is good, i have used one card from them in the past. And this thing is better then the 7600GT IMHO. And firingsquad got a nice 675/1320Mhz oc out of it! Max i got was 680/1360!

LHC · Apr 25, 2006, 04:04 AM

The Connect3D one randomly came in suddenly, so I ordered it. The reason I wanted to get Connect3D in particular is because it's one of the only two brands that can be flashed to an XL so you can achieve 16 pipes instead of 12. I ordered everything before, I should get all the stuff before the end of the week.

[hobo]eclipse · Apr 26, 2006, 04:38 AM

nice, good luck, and have fun

Apr 24, 2006, 05:15 PM	#1
LHC Stingy and Stubborn Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,325 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Which video card? (help!) I kinda need to know quickly about this I'm just about ready to upgrade my computer, and I was going for an Ati X800GTO, then I came across the nVidia 7600 GT. Problem is.. they both have the ups and downs The X800GTO from Powercolor is $184 at Newegg. It's 400/980. Apparently, It's very nicely overclocked, and this one from Powercolor has 16 pipes out of the box, and if not you can unlock the 4 pipes. At TigerDirect, there is a GeForce 7600 GT from XFX. It kills the X800GTO with 590/1600. After rebates, it comes to $170. Problem is the rebates end tomorrow. Also, when it's describing the 7600, it says 256-bit, but on both spec pages it says 128-bit. Now I'd jump at the GeForce, but it is 128-bit, while the Ati is 256-bit. With that difference in Core/Memory frequencies, would the 128-bit make that much of a difference in comparison to 256-bit? 7600: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...Tab=0&NoMapp=0 X800GTO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131424 Mobo + CPU combo: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...828847&CatId=0 __________________

Apr 24, 2006, 05:57 PM	#2
riles9262 Driverheaven brewmaster Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,842 Rep Power: 72 System Specs	The 7600gt has a memory bus of 128bit...the 256bit may be referring to the core, otherwise it's false advertising. The gto, especially if you can get it to 16 pipes, will outdo the 7600 in performance, but does not have shader 3.0/hdr stuff. They both have great performance for the money, but I'd go for the 7600 to get the new features. __________________ A beer a day keeps the doctor away.

Apr 24, 2006, 06:02 PM	Thread Starter #3
LHC Stingy and Stubborn Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,325 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Hmm, so you think that if I want it to look nicer, get the 7600, but if I care more about performance than quality get the X800? __________________

Apr 24, 2006, 06:29 PM	Thread Starter #5
LHC Stingy and Stubborn Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,325 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Ok, so I guess I'll go for the 7600, and for a deal like that it seems that the 128-bit is a small price to pay. Just need to make sure though, even though it says SLI, it'll still work in a non-SLI board as long as it's PCI-E, right? Thanks guys __________________

Apr 24, 2006, 06:37 PM	#6
riles9262 Driverheaven brewmaster Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,842 Rep Power: 72 System Specs	If I was buying a new vid card today, I'd want it to have hdr/3.0 capabilities, so yes. The iq of the radeon is of course great, it just is a gen behind in features. If possible, you may want to have a look at the x1800xl or x1800 gto to see what their prices are as well. My choice right now would be the 7900gt, but it's probably way out of the price range... __________________ A beer a day keeps the doctor away.

Apr 24, 2006, 06:12 PM	#4
[hobo]eclipse ...just bummin 'round Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,907 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	the 7600 is only gunna look nicer if you play alot of games that run PS3.0, you can see the difference between PS2.0 and 3.0, but as of now its a small diffence, im sure that will change in a year or so.

Apr 24, 2006, 06:38 PM	#7
[hobo]eclipse ...just bummin 'round Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,907 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	should still work, i didnt notice the 7600 was 128-bit memory interface, personally i would want 256-bit, i think this will be a graphics bottleneck for you.

Apr 24, 2006, 06:42 PM	#8
[hobo]eclipse ...just bummin 'round Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,907 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	the x1800GTO saphire is 220 at new egg, plus i seen a few articles round the net about these bein modable to x1800xl's.

Apr 24, 2006, 06:51 PM	Thread Starter #10
LHC Stingy and Stubborn Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,325 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	It looks like the Hightech one, people had the most success in flashing it.. __________________

Apr 24, 2006, 06:52 PM	#11
[hobo]eclipse ...just bummin 'round Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,907 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	ya, prolly more on par with the lower end 7800 rather than 7600, not to nVidia knowledgeable, different card wise.

Apr 24, 2006, 07:05 PM	Thread Starter #12
LHC Stingy and Stubborn Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,325 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Yea, after looking around for a little bit, people think that the maybe HighTech and Connect3D are the only ones capable of flashing to an XL http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33851710 Look at Lewdvig's posts, and his sig. The Sapphire flashed successfully, but ATI Tool shows 12 pipes still __________________ Last edited by LHC; Apr 24, 2006 at 07:12 PM.

Apr 24, 2006, 07:16 PM	Thread Starter #13
LHC Stingy and Stubborn Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,325 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I think I'll be getting this one though (out of stock though ): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814142067 Thanks you two for all the help __________________

Apr 24, 2006, 08:37 PM	#14
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	got three 7800s for my daughter, son and dad, they love Nvidia.. __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Apr 24, 2006, 08:43 PM	Thread Starter #15
LHC Stingy and Stubborn Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,325 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Except the one i was looking at was 7600.. pretty different if you ask me.. But the X1800GTO comes back in stock on the 28th, just two days before the $60 rebate ends __________________

Apr 25, 2006, 04:04 AM	Thread Starter #17
LHC Stingy and Stubborn Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,325 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	The Connect3D one randomly came in suddenly, so I ordered it. The reason I wanted to get Connect3D in particular is because it's one of the only two brands that can be flashed to an XL so you can achieve 16 pipes instead of 12. I ordered everything before, I should get all the stuff before the end of the week. __________________

Apr 26, 2006, 04:38 AM	#18
[hobo]eclipse ...just bummin 'round Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,907 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	nice, good luck, and have fun