My new car :) :(

Sandok · May 21, 2006, 06:53 PM

I don't care for badge or country but those are the only three american cars I find look good and are actually worth the money you put down.

The Z06 is a monster but god is it ugly, has a horrible ride quality and from all the reviews I've heard or seen, it only should belong on a track. Anywhere else, it's hopeless.

Dark Lord · May 21, 2006, 06:58 PM

ive ridden in a non Z06 and i can say that the ride quality is simply amazing. very very smooth and refined. easily the smoothest ride ive ever felt.

wiskerbizkit · May 21, 2006, 07:24 PM

Mustang tranny's suck, dont even try to put it in 1st if youre moving, it will save life on your transmission. I don't know if they're still using t-5's or not but youre better off buying a brand new aftermarket transmission if a) you can afford it and B) If you plan on keeping the car for a long time. here's a website to a place that specializes in Ford racing drivetrains http://www.fortesparts.com/ I dont know if you want to go that far but the car is worth it.

Sandok · May 21, 2006, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord

ive ridden in a non Z06 and i can say that the ride quality is simply amazing. very very smooth and refined. easily the smoothest ride ive ever felt.

HAHAHAHAHAHA omg that was the ultimate post ever...

I have been in a non Z06 and it was horrendeous compared to a Porsche 911 Carrera S or a BMW M6... Simply bad!

And the Z06 has even rougher suspension than the standard so you'll break your back in one hour instead of one day.

Dark Lord · May 21, 2006, 08:22 PM

bullshit. try rideing in my C3 for an afternoon, if you think the C6 is bad then you have no idea what your talking about.

Sandok · May 21, 2006, 08:29 PM

I can imagine your C3 is bad but compared to other cars of its category, the C6 is a load of junk when it comes to ride quality... Go take a ride in a BMW or Porsche of similar type and compare the ride. The Corvette has a bone breaking ride compared to them! Come on, even my current heap of junk has better ride comfort!!

CDsDontBurn · May 21, 2006, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaldar

rx8s are cool cars none the less, just not my cup of tea, they handle great but they lack power in my opinion.

true they lack in power, but its in the twisties that they really show their pride

. i saw a video of an rx-8 vs. a C5 or C6 vette (i forget which one) and it was right up on the vett's butt most of the time up until the straight away.....i'll try and find the video and post the link

CDsDontBurn · May 22, 2006, 12:50 AM

well, here's an FD chasing a z06. still not the one i was looking for, but i'm still looking

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...92B16847F0.htm

i swear, i've looked at all possible locations i could think of for that video on both streetfire and you tube. i can't find it anywhere

Kaldar · May 22, 2006, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by wiskerbizkit

Mustang tranny's suck, dont even try to put it in 1st if youre moving, it will save life on your transmission. I don't know if they're still using t-5's or not but youre better off buying a brand new aftermarket transmission if a) you can afford it and B) If you plan on keeping the car for a long time. here's a website to a place that specializes in Ford racing drivetrains http://www.fortesparts.com/ I dont know if you want to go that far but the car is worth it.

oh wow, i never knew about that lol, i'll defiently look into uprading the transmission then lol =/

the only time i ever go into first is at stops though so it really doesnt matter, and on road courses you should ever have to downshift to 1st, autox eh idk normally you just stay in second the whole time.

Kaldar · May 22, 2006, 03:23 AM

Heh, don't even try to compare the luxury and ride quality of cars like BMWs =/

after riding in my friends e46 325 for a while, then going into my stang it was like night and day difference lol.

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Yeah CDs, i see videos like that all the time, the cars will be slowly gaining on the turns but the sheer power of the corvette most always over comes them heh

Sandok · May 22, 2006, 06:57 AM

Kalder, it's not unfair. Okay, a Porsche Carrera S which is a SPORTS car means it's really made for cornering and high speeds. Thus, the suspension ain't mellow but stiff and decent so that the car can actually stick on the road. Yet, german engineers manage to keep suspension stiff and great without sacrficing comfort.

Unlike corvette which just thinks: "No suspension = sporty"

Oh and last I heard, a corvette was supposed to be a sports car and thus, it's very easily comparable to a Porsche 911. Hell, the corvette is america's 911.

CDsDontBurn · May 22, 2006, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandok

Unlike corvette which just thinks: "No suspension = sporty"

lol.....that's great

Sandok · May 22, 2006, 07:00 AM

So great that it's been quoted into your sig

w00t!

CDsDontBurn · May 22, 2006, 07:01 AM

damn tootin'!

pr0digal jenius · May 22, 2006, 07:11 AM

sandok...you're crazy. The c6 has one of the most advanced suspension systems ever put in a car, designed bythe fellas up at Lotus and tested by the fellas at Chevy Racing....your little euro artsy fartsy "we're too good for H.O. motors" mobiles may ride nice, but they're hardly the leaps and bounds ahead of our beloved vette.

as for riding like a it has no suspension at all...you have clearly never ridden in a true muscle car, have you? [Camaro, Chevelle, GTO, Charger, etc]

Also, on the new Mustangs, they have tremec transmissions....the v6 has the crappy one [t300, i think], and the GT has a BEAUTIFUL gearbox....the t360 i believe. The v6 and GT difference in gearboxes alone is night and day, engine aside.

PS - Sandok: the Ford GT is a pile of garbage...it's an exotically powered jail cell...the inside is rubber and brushed aluminum, with analog hat switches.....and then a $5500 McIntosh Stereo...and it rides on $4,000 wheels, and has $6,500 worth of racing stripes on it.....it's only got 550-ish HP....granted re-chipping it can put you up towards 900, but by then its barely controllable and slides all voer the damned place.....get a real race car

The focus is the lowest model car ford makes, btw...we sell those to people who can't afford a Fusion Mustang or 500 and don't want a Truck

CDsDontBurn · May 22, 2006, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

sandok...you're crazy. The c6 has one of the most advanced suspension systems ever put in a car, designed bythe fellas up at Lotus and tested by the fellas at Chevy Racing....your little euro artsy fartsy "we're too good for H.O. motors" mobiles may ride nice, but they're hardly the leaps and bounds ahead of our beloved vette.

as for riding like a it has no suspension at all...you have clearly never ridden in a true muscle car, have you? [Camaro, Chevelle, GTO, Charger, etc]

Also, on the new Mustangs, they have tremec transmissions....the v6 has the crappy one [t300, i think], and the GT has a BEAUTIFUL gearbox....the t360 i believe. The v6 and GT difference in gearboxes alone is night and day, engine aside.

PS - Sandok: the Ford GT is a pile of garbage...it's an exotically powered jail cell...the inside is rubber and brushed aluminum, with analog hat switches.....and then a $5500 McIntosh Stereo...and it rides on $4,000 wheels, and has $6,500 worth of racing stripes on it.....it's only got 550-ish HP....granted re-chipping it can put you up towards 900, but by then its barely controllable and slides all voer the damned place.....get a real race car

The focus is the lowest model car ford makes, btw...we sell those to people who can't afford a Fusion Mustang or 500 and don't want a Truck

let him be, he's only attacking the 'vette. the only other person who would have beef w/this would be dark lord

pr0digal jenius · May 22, 2006, 07:22 AM

lol...true....as for the bit about the ford GT and the focus....that really is true...the GT is quite possibly the LEAST comfortable car....ever...think "Lotus Exige" and you're on the right track as far as ammentities go.

And the focus MAY be a different story in europe, i dunno...but here it's a ghetto budget car commonly used as a "first car" or a "rental"

CDsDontBurn · May 22, 2006, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

lol...true....as for the bit about the ford GT and the focus....that really is true...the GT is quite possibly the LEAST comfortable car....ever...think "Lotus Exige" and you're on the right track as far as ammentities go.

And the focus MAY be a different story in europe, i dunno...but here it's a ghetto budget car commonly used as a "first car" or a "rental"

first car?! not even! well, that is if you're latino/hispanic like me

. usually you'll be getting the beat up car that's been sitting in the driveway for 3-8 years growing vegetation from under the wheel wells, having spiders create their webbing under the chassis, and the sun beating down on the top of the car causing the paint peel and the metal rust

pr0digal jenius · May 22, 2006, 07:26 AM

the thing to do here is get a Focus, Cavalier, or Saturn

CDsDontBurn · May 22, 2006, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

the thing to do here is get a Focus, Cavalier, or Saturn

and you're saying this to who?

Dark Lord · May 22, 2006, 07:35 AM

the focus is fords replacment for an escort.... an escort sure as hell isnt something to go bragging about.

Sandok · May 22, 2006, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

sandok...you're crazy. The c6 has one of the most advanced suspension systems ever put in a car, designed bythe fellas up at Lotus and tested by the fellas at Chevy Racing....your little euro artsy fartsy "we're too good for H.O. motors" mobiles may ride nice, but they're hardly the leaps and bounds ahead of our beloved vette.

I don't care whether a car is a Euro or not... That has nothing to do with it... I'm just telling you that I was in the states and a friend of my dads has the C6 and went around for a drive... Then, later the same vacation a friend of my dad's (again) had a 911 S and trust me, BOTH are sports cars unless i'm mistaken and only one of them was good for my back... The porsche

[QUOTE=pr0digal jenius] as for riding like a it has no suspension at all...you have clearly never ridden in a true muscle car, have you? [Camaro, Chevelle, GTO, Charger, etc]

No and I really don't want to... My back has value for me

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Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

PS - Sandok: the Ford GT is a pile of garbage...it's an exotically powered jail cell...the inside is rubber and brushed aluminum, with analog hat switches.....and then a $5500 McIntosh Stereo...and it rides on $4,000 wheels, and has $6,500 worth of racing stripes on it.....it's only got 550-ish HP....granted re-chipping it can put you up towards 900, but by then its barely controllable and slides all voer the damned place.....get a real race car

Why do you care if it has 900 bhp? It's as faster than a 360 and honestly, it's a bargain for the price since it still gives plenty of good ride quality (FOR A SUPERCAR), has plenty of torque and most of all, it's a legend coming back to life... I mean, it's an amazing car and from what I saw at the Geneva Auto show, the inside is really awesome. Modern yet stylish but hell, to each his own.

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Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

The focus is the lowest model car ford makes, btw...we sell those to people who can't afford a Fusion Mustang or 500 and don't want a Truck

You know the F150 thingy is only sold to north americans? We never buy pickups from you guys... And the Mustang is bloody ugly.

And the ford Focus ST is a hatchback = usefull in a small towns and all (Thus all of europe... Nobody wants a car you can't park = mustang or that HORRIBLE F150)

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord

the focus is fords replacment for an escort.... an escort sure as hell isnt something to go bragging about.

The escort cosworth was bad? OMG where do you guys come from? And if ever, the focus ST is an amazing hot hatch but oh yeah, in america you can't really use those... Too small for the average person

Rofl Okay lame joke but nonetheless, in euro the hot hatch is the kickass of all cars

Drakon · May 22, 2006, 02:18 PM

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I don't care whether a car is a Euro or not... That has nothing to do with it... I'm just telling you that I was in the states and a friend of my dads has the C6 and went around for a drive... Then, later the same vacation a friend of my dad's (again) had a 911 S and trust me, BOTH are sports cars unless i'm mistaken and only one of them was good for my back... The porsche

So because it was good for your back, that means it has a better suspension? Talk about advanced testing... ROFL

wiskerbizkit · May 22, 2006, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

the thing to do here is get a Focus, Cavalier, or Saturn

I think what he means is, like me, I had my race car phase as well I had a 79 camaro an 84 camaro and i totally converted a 2.3l 89 mustang into a V-8 monster. But after its all send and done you just want to get into your car and turn the key, Thats why i now drive a 2002 hyundai elantra lol

Sandok · May 22, 2006, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Drakon

So because it was good for your back, that means it has a better suspension? Talk about advanced testing... ROFL

Well how you want me to test? Put a G meter and check it? Of course you test with how you feel in it! Come on, don't tell me you don't test your cars by actually test driving them first?

Drakon · May 22, 2006, 06:24 PM

Well Sandok, actually driving said car/s would be considered "test driving." Last time I checked, riding in the passenger seat doesn't count

Sandok · May 22, 2006, 06:26 PM

Oh come on... That's nit picking! As if the suspension is different for the rider...

It's the same car! The only thing that changes is that the driver can hold the steering wheel for even LESS gforce = less acurate

Drakon · May 22, 2006, 07:09 PM

How is that being picky? It was always my understanding that to get a true feel of how a car handles, you must be the driver. Does it work differently in Europe?

Dark Lord · May 22, 2006, 07:17 PM

apparently so.

about the whole escort thing, just because there was one good escort made doesnt mean all escorts were good. it would be the equivlent of saying that a special performance yugo got a 4 banger, decent suspension, and brakes in it instead of an inline 3 and complete lack of suspension and brakes that standard yugos get.

Drakon · May 22, 2006, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord

apparently so...

Thank you

May 21, 2006, 06:58 PM	#32
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	ive ridden in a non Z06 and i can say that the ride quality is simply amazing. very very smooth and refined. easily the smoothest ride ive ever felt. __________________

May 21, 2006, 08:22 PM	#35
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	bullshit. try rideing in my C3 for an afternoon, if you think the C6 is bad then you have no idea what your talking about. __________________

May 22, 2006, 12:50 AM	#38
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	well, here's an FD chasing a z06. still not the one i was looking for, but i'm still looking http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...92B16847F0.htm i swear, i've looked at all possible locations i could think of for that video on both streetfire and you tube. i can't find it anywhere __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

May 22, 2006, 03:23 AM	#40
Kaldar DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 213 Rep Power: 0	Heh, don't even try to compare the luxury and ride quality of cars like BMWs =/ after riding in my friends e46 325 for a while, then going into my stang it was like night and day difference lol. * Yeah CDs, i see videos like that all the time, the cars will be slowly gaining on the turns but the sheer power of the corvette most always over comes them heh __________________ Operton 185 w/ Zalman CNPS9500 , Sapphire HD 4850, ABIT AT8, OC Z 700W PSU, Asus 16x DVD writer, 2GB Crucial pc3200 RAM, Xoxide X-Ventilator, WD800JDx2, MX500. 05 Mustang GT 5 Spd

May 22, 2006, 07:01 AM	#44
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May 21, 2006, 06:53 PM	#31
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 66	I don't care for badge or country but those are the only three american cars I find look good and are actually worth the money you put down. The Z06 is a monster but god is it ugly, has a horrible ride quality and from all the reviews I've heard or seen, it only should belong on a track. Anywhere else, it's hopeless.

May 21, 2006, 07:24 PM	#33
wiskerbizkit DH ***** hobo Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Columbia SC Posts: 467 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Mustang tranny's suck, dont even try to put it in 1st if youre moving, it will save life on your transmission. I don't know if they're still using t-5's or not but youre better off buying a brand new aftermarket transmission if a) you can afford it and B) If you plan on keeping the car for a long time. here's a website to a place that specializes in Ford racing drivetrains http://www.fortesparts.com/ I dont know if you want to go that far but the car is worth it.

May 21, 2006, 08:29 PM	#36
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 66	I can imagine your C3 is bad but compared to other cars of its category, the C6 is a load of junk when it comes to ride quality... Go take a ride in a BMW or Porsche of similar type and compare the ride. The Corvette has a bone breaking ride compared to them! Come on, even my current heap of junk has better ride comfort!!

May 22, 2006, 06:57 AM	#41
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 66	Kalder, it's not unfair. Okay, a Porsche Carrera S which is a SPORTS car means it's really made for cornering and high speeds. Thus, the suspension ain't mellow but stiff and decent so that the car can actually stick on the road. Yet, german engineers manage to keep suspension stiff and great without sacrficing comfort. Unlike corvette which just thinks: "No suspension = sporty" Oh and last I heard, a corvette was supposed to be a sports car and thus, it's very easily comparable to a Porsche 911. Hell, the corvette is america's 911.

May 22, 2006, 07:00 AM	#43
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 66	So great that it's been quoted into your sig w00t!

May 22, 2006, 07:11 AM	#45
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	sandok...you're crazy. The c6 has one of the most advanced suspension systems ever put in a car, designed bythe fellas up at Lotus and tested by the fellas at Chevy Racing....your little euro artsy fartsy "we're too good for H.O. motors" mobiles may ride nice, but they're hardly the leaps and bounds ahead of our beloved vette. as for riding like a it has no suspension at all...you have clearly never ridden in a true muscle car, have you? [Camaro, Chevelle, GTO, Charger, etc] Also, on the new Mustangs, they have tremec transmissions....the v6 has the crappy one [t300, i think], and the GT has a BEAUTIFUL gearbox....the t360 i believe. The v6 and GT difference in gearboxes alone is night and day, engine aside. PS - Sandok: the Ford GT is a pile of garbage...it's an exotically powered jail cell...the inside is rubber and brushed aluminum, with analog hat switches.....and then a $5500 McIntosh Stereo...and it rides on $4,000 wheels, and has $6,500 worth of racing stripes on it.....it's only got 550-ish HP....granted re-chipping it can put you up towards 900, but by then its barely controllable and slides all voer the damned place.....get a real race car The focus is the lowest model car ford makes, btw...we sell those to people who can't afford a Fusion Mustang or 500 and don't want a Truck

May 22, 2006, 07:22 AM	#47
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	lol...true....as for the bit about the ford GT and the focus....that really is true...the GT is quite possibly the LEAST comfortable car....ever...think "Lotus Exige" and you're on the right track as far as ammentities go. And the focus MAY be a different story in europe, i dunno...but here it's a ghetto budget car commonly used as a "first car" or a "rental"

May 22, 2006, 07:26 AM	#49
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	the thing to do here is get a Focus, Cavalier, or Saturn

May 22, 2006, 07:35 AM	#51
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	the focus is fords replacment for an escort.... an escort sure as hell isnt something to go bragging about. __________________

May 22, 2006, 06:24 PM	#56
Drakon DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Floatin'... Posts: 4,957 Rep Power: 56	Well Sandok, actually driving said car/s would be considered "test driving." Last time I checked, riding in the passenger seat doesn't count

May 22, 2006, 06:26 PM	#57
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 66	Oh come on... That's nit picking! As if the suspension is different for the rider... It's the same car! The only thing that changes is that the driver can hold the steering wheel for even LESS gforce = less acurate

May 22, 2006, 07:09 PM	#58
Drakon DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Floatin'... Posts: 4,957 Rep Power: 56	How is that being picky? It was always my understanding that to get a true feel of how a car handles, you must be the driver. Does it work differently in Europe?

May 22, 2006, 07:17 PM	#59
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	apparently so. about the whole escort thing, just because there was one good escort made doesnt mean all escorts were good. it would be the equivlent of saying that a special performance yugo got a 4 banger, decent suspension, and brakes in it instead of an inline 3 and complete lack of suspension and brakes that standard yugos get. __________________