[CDsDontBurn]

Originally Posted by Sandok

I'll leave it open if it stays nice and quiet but no more insulting otherwise it'll have to go like the last car thread that CDs stopped.

lol....i dropped it because everybody was bickering like school children saying "i bet my dad can beat up your dad"

ahh....those were the days. i wish i could be a mod again

[BWX]

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[Sandok]

Actually I realized i'm in TWO people's sigs! W00t! Both about the same car...

[CDsDontBurn]

lol.....and now you just don't care about the thread anymore

[Sandok]

I can't... Cuz if I continue posting here I'll be in everyone's sig!

[Neshi]

haha dont let it go to your head

[Customgamer1]

Originally Posted by Dark Lord

same with my corvette. the manual steering is an ever bigger bonus because all the feedback from the wheels comes right back up that steering column and into my hands.

i will admit though i could use some better seats in that car. nothing like haveing metal coils bounceing around and trying to work there way up your ass.

I see how manual steering could be nice but when you are going slow or stopped and trying to move the wheels makes it very hard. I have seen people do it. To bad you can't turn on and off the power steering

[CDsDontBurn]

Originally Posted by Customgamer1

I see how manual steering could be nice but when you are going slow or stopped and trying to move the wheels makes it very hard. I have seen people do it. To bad you can't turn on and off the power steering

yes, manual steering blows! lol.....since i've been w/o a car, i've been driving my mom's car and my dad's truck. my dad's truck has no power steering so making turns at a slow speed is biznatch!

my 8 had electronically assisted power steering . really smooth steering too. the 8 can bust a bitch (make a U-ie) on a dime!

[Customgamer1]

Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

yes, manual steering blows! lol.....since i've been w/o a car, i've been driving my mom's car and my dad's truck. my dad's truck has no power steering so making turns at a slow speed is biznatch!

my 8 had electronically assisted power steering . really smooth steering too. the 8 can bust a bitch (make a U-ie) on a dime!

Thats cool!!!!

[Customgamer1]

So I need a little help!

I need help from those who drive manual!

As you know I just got a 2000 Manual Mustang. It works great and I am getting better at drive it with out all the damn stalling that happens when I try to get the car to move. I really don't do that much anymore but the problem I face now is being stopped on a hill and trying to go.

Not only do I roll back like 200 feet lol but I can never really get it... And I feel I am burning up my clutch a lot and I just suck trying to go up a hill. If anyone has any tricks or any advice that would be great.

P.S. Don't worry I have a big hill by my house that I practice on so I am not in any traffic

[CDsDontBurn]

Originally Posted by Customgamer1

So I need a little help!

I need help from those who drive manual!

As you know I just got a 2000 Manual Mustang. It works great and I am getting better at drive it with out all the damn stalling that happens when I try to get the car to move. I really don't do that much anymore but the problem I face now is being stopped on a hill and trying to go.

Not only do I roll back like 200 feet lol but I can never really get it... And I feel I am burning up my clutch a lot and I just suck trying to go up a hill. If anyone has any tricks or any advice that would be great.

P.S. Don't worry I have a big hill by my house that I practice on so I am not in any traffic

just give it more gas than normal and take out the clutch at a slightly faster speed than being on flat surface.

takes some practice, but once you got the hang of it, it's cake

[Dark Lord]

it takes practice, lots of practice. basicly what your going to do is use all 3 pedals at the same time. keep one foot on the brake, let the clutch out and give it gas like you would on a normal take off. at about that exact same time, take your foot on the brakes and you shouldnt roll back at all.


as for the power steering bit, i fully agree taht it sucks at low speeds. with an 18" wheel though, its not so bad. really builds up your fore arm muscles if you do alot of low low speeds driveing.


*really cd's? thats how you do it? i was taught to do it exactly the same way i would normaly take off but have the brake slightly pressed until it just starts to creep forward.

[BWX]

My advice? Let the clutch out and go.


My old prelude had torque sensitive power assist steering.. Like no power steering at high speed, but really really easy to steer in a parking lot.

[Customgamer1]

Well BMX letting the clutch out and going stalls the car right?

I am just really worried about blowing another clutch? Do you know for the most part if the clutchs are very easy to break or can they take some beating?

[CDsDontBurn]

lol....clutches can take a beating . you shoulda seen how i treated my 8 . i kept doing burn outs, clutch drops, speed shifting (shifting while gas is still engaged), donuts, going from reverse to first gear, or first gear to reverse while still moving at ~10Mph did alot of high RPM driving (c'mon, i couldn't resist that 9k RPM redline ), and a bunch of other stuff that i can't remember right now that. for how i drove my 8, it should have been on it's 3rd clutch . but the miles were low at 38,500 when i crashed it. freakin' thing was still under manufacturer warranty

so all in all.....yes, a clutch could take a beating. but once in a while (just as in computers) you'll come across one that is poor quality and will need replacing sooner than most.

[BWX]

Originally Posted by Customgamer1

Well BMX letting the clutch out and going stalls the car right?

I am just really worried about blowing another clutch? Do you know for the most part if the clutchs are very easy to break or can they take some beating?

I taught my wife how to drive stick.. I actually taught myself too- when I drove my first car off the lot- I learned on the way home.

What kills a clutch is heat. You can slip a clutch on a hill with no brakes on at low engine RPM w/o stalling and without moving forward all day long. For a few seconds it will not hurt anything - all day long would burn the clutch up.

No you won't stall- just give it more gas.

[Customgamer1]

Well MY GOD CD'S!!!! I know you had a sports car but what you said makes me think that you would have destroyed your car a while ago lol. Thats what I do in racing games

[BWX]

I have shifted my 200sx se-r without even pushing the clutch in, just to see if I could do it.. It works... but made a funny noise.

[CDsDontBurn]

Originally Posted by Customgamer1

Well MY GOD CD'S!!!! I know you had a sports car but what you said makes me think that you would have destroyed your car a while ago lol. Thats what I do in racing games

yea....it's all good though. no worries. the clutch itself was still fine.

i was planning on replacing the clutch around 65k miles w/an aftermarket stage 2 clutch, and put on a lightweight flywheel and short shifter all at the same time while the tranny was separated from the engine. would have been around $1,000 USD in parts, and maybe another $500 in labor for everything. that would have been another 4 months from now if i still had my car.

the easiest way to tell that a car's clutch is going out is if it begins to slip. when a clutch is slipping, the tell-tell signs of it is when you have the car in gear and give the car gas, but it won't go any faster and the RPMs just go up until the gears finally engage

[Customgamer1]

Originally Posted by BWX

I taught my wife how to drive stick.. I actually taught myself too- when I drove my first car off the lot- I learned on the way home.

What kills a clutch is heat. You can slip a clutch on a hill with no brakes on at low engine RPM w/o stalling and without moving forward all day long. For a few seconds it will not hurt anything - all day long would burn the clutch up.

No you won't stall- just give it more gas.

Well you see thats my problem... Giving gas. I reved it up to 2.5 to 3k rpm and tried releasing the clutch and I stall a lot. Once and a while I don't but thats not to often lol. The onther thing I have never driven in a car that was not stick before that had crappy manual driver so I would not know what it feels like but some time when I stall it just feels so dang bad with the bumping and i get a wierd feeling fromt the car... I hope thats normal.

[Customgamer1]

Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

the easiest way to tell that a car's clutch is going out is if it begins to slip. when a clutch is slipping, the tell-tell signs of it is when you have the car in gear and give the car gas, but it won't go any faster and the RPMs just go up until the gears finally engage

First off sorry about posting so much but I am learning a lot tonight

Ok well thats something I should look for down the line. At least I hope it's down the line and not next week lol.

[Customgamer1]

Originally Posted by BWX

I have shifted my 200sx se-r without even pushing the clutch in, just to see if I could do it.. It works... but made a funny noise.

BMX I would ask that you not do that. Now thats one thing I do know LOL. And look what happened at least you know what happens!!!!

[Dark Lord]

theres actually something ive wonderd about. ive been doing it for some time and havnt heard anything bad happen yet, doesnt mean i should keep doing it though...

anyways, any problem with creeping the car just useing the clutch? i do it quite often when im in stop and go traffic or need to just move the car across the drive way.

[BWX]

Originally Posted by Customgamer1

Well you see thats my problem... Giving gas. I reved it up to 2.5 to 3k rpm and tried releasing the clutch and I stall a lot. Once and a while I don't but thats not to often lol. The onther thing I have never driven in a car that was not stick before that had crappy manual driver so I would not know what it feels like but some time when I stall it just feels so dang bad with the bumping and i get a wierd feeling fromt the car... I hope thats normal.

You just sound like you need a lot more practice. Go into a big mall parking lot at night and practice.. If you are stalling you are letting the clutch out too quickly and/or not giving it enough gas.

[CDsDontBurn]

Originally Posted by Customgamer1

First off sorry about posting so much but I am learning a lot tonight

Ok well thats something I should look for down the line. At least I hope it's down the line and not next week lol.

lol.....yea, it'll be down the line, and not any time soon.

and no worries dude. this is your thread after all . ask away with as many questions as possible. i'm sure that the only peeps responding to your questions will be BWX, DL, PJ and myself

[CDsDontBurn]

Originally Posted by BWX

You just sound like you need a lot more practice. Go into a big mall parking lot at night and practice.. If you are stalling you are letting the clutch out too quickly and/or not giving it enough gas.

ditto.

like BWX said, you'll get better with more practice and time

[Dark Lord]

indeed, it just takes time and practice.

i start out driveing my dads 85 S-10 for about a week. nothing like learning on a car that has a 350K mile clutch on it. by the end of the week i still couldnt take off gently...

vette on the other hand has a very strong clutch and only took me a few days to get down properly.

[Customgamer1]

Well 90% of the time I am fine driving around on the street but it's just those damn hills... I guess I will just have to practice more!

This is the last post for tonight for me I am out!

Thanks for the help tonight. Now tomorrow I have something to work on lol!

[CDsDontBurn]

lol......go get 'em killer!

[BWX]

Well hills are tricky... Especially in heavy traffic. What I do is just wait for the guy in front to go, then I very quickly give it gas let out on the clutch at the same time to take off. It is like all one motion.