My new car :) :(

Customgamer1 · Jun 1, 2006, 11:03 PM

Anyone any good at car audio or better Mustang audio? I have mach audio and well thats the up grade sound but it still sucks and I know it's a pain to replace but if anyone else has any car audio suggestions that would be a great help! What kind of speakers/subs you have?

CDsDontBurn · Jun 2, 2006, 12:53 AM

i would go w/a pioneer sound system all the way around, and for the subs, i would choose RockfordFosgate or MB Quartz

Customgamer1 · Jun 2, 2006, 05:29 AM

Why pioneer? I know they make ok speakers but eclipse are good and other brands like that?? Is that what you had in your 8?

BWX · Jun 2, 2006, 05:36 AM

I would go with Phoenix Gold.. just because of my experience with the quality of everything they make.. and price is reasonable too. Sound quality.. better than anything I have heard.. listening head to head in an audio shop on a big board full of 40 different speakers.. That was with coaxials though.. (edit- Phoenix gold coaxials and some other brands separates- but the PG's coax's sounded better than the other brands separates as well.. that is saying something)
-subs are a different story. JL, etc. for high end.. I personally like MTX for their mid-ranged subwoofer product line.

I have a relatively inexpensive 4 channel Pioneer amp (3 including the "Optimus" amps I have that are no longer being made, but were made by Pioneer- or whoever makes the Pioneer amps) .. Anyway they all work great and have for quite a few years.. they stand up well to abuse.. great midrange line of amps.

Of course the more you spend, the more you get, and you have to look at different manufacturers.

CDsDontBurn · Jun 2, 2006, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Customgamer1

Why pioneer? I know they make ok speakers but eclipse are good and other brands like that?? Is that what you had in your 8?

no, that's what i was going to get. my 8 didn't come w/the 7 speaker premium bose sound (which is ok, because it's a bitch to upgrade the stereo if you get that package). w/my 2 sony 10s i had in the trunk, my music sounded good anyways

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Heat is an issue though. It was always a problem in my 8, especially during summer, or any warm day. The trunk in the 8 is so small, that you need to have ventilation going through there to preven the AMP from going into safe mode and shutting off. I always just removed the center fold down compartment and that was it, but it might be different in your mustang though.

Dark Lord · Jun 2, 2006, 06:44 AM

i have 4 pioneers in my vette (2x 4x6, 2x 6x9) and they sound pretty damn good to me. of course, im also running with out an amp right now, so im just getting power from the weak head unit. 2rms x 4 channel i think. the speakers are rated at 20 and 40rms per channel. once i put an amp in, it should be much better.

CDsDontBurn · Jun 2, 2006, 06:51 AM

definately sound much better and cleaner. you might not want to run the speakers at full blast until you do get an amp put in though. from my understanding, the speakers will be under powered and burn out much quicker than normal life expectancy.

i think BWX would know more about that though since he's the "speaker expert"

Dark Lord · Jun 2, 2006, 06:58 AM

ya, i dont run it full out right now. sounds like crap from being underpowerd.

with the amp though, i sure as hell hope i can hear the radio with the windows down @ 60-70mph.

CDsDontBurn · Jun 2, 2006, 07:10 AM

yea, you should be able to

Customgamer1 · Jun 2, 2006, 11:40 PM

Well I guess I will have to do some speaker research! But like always I need to set my budget or I know I will go all out and find out I can't afford it and end up in a big black hole

lol

The Sub I like from MTX is this one!!! Now only if my stang could hold it...
http://www.mtxaudio.com/caraudio/pro...jackHammer.cfm

pr0digal jenius · Jun 3, 2006, 02:21 AM

I rather like the Mach system.....but yes...it is difficult, nigh impossible to upgrade...I'm debating adding a sub and leaving the rest as is for simplicity

CDsDontBurn · Jun 3, 2006, 04:03 AM

@ Customgamer1: that is one huge amp! lol....actually, the stereo shop i get my stuff done at has one on display. it is one huge monster!

@ PJ: just get stay simple w/a head unit, 2 12s, and an amp to power those two beasts

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pr0digal jenius · Jun 3, 2006, 05:20 AM

can't replace a mach head unit...it's molded into the dash...you have to replace the entire console.

I'm looking into ripping out the mach and getting a shaker system though, since the shaker has MP3 capability and the mach doesn't...but for now 6 disc in dash is just fine

Dark Lord · Jun 3, 2006, 05:58 AM

6 disk in dash changer? god... im feeling a little primitive here. ive got an AM/FM with cassete. if i want cd, or mp3, i need to plug the adapter into my cassete deck and hook it up to my portable cd player.

Drakon · Jun 3, 2006, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Customgamer1

Anyone any good at car audio or better Mustang audio? I have mach audio and well thats the up grade sound but it still sucks and I know it's a pain to replace but if anyone else has any car audio suggestions that would be a great help! What kind of speakers/subs you have?

CG: These look interesting. I neither have a car nor these, so I can't help much.

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-8miPkkm...0&I=2066S10L54

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-8miPkkm...0&I=2065C10VR4

Customgamer1 · Jun 3, 2006, 07:31 AM

So PrOdigal you have a Mustang to? With Mach audio or do other cars come with it?

CDsDontBurn · Jun 3, 2006, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

can't replace a mach head unit...it's molded into the dash...you have to replace the entire console.

I'm looking into ripping out the mach and getting a shaker system though, since the shaker has MP3 capability and the mach doesn't...but for now 6 disc in dash is just fine

gotcha.....it's the same way in the RX-8. the head unit and in dash 6 disc changer (if you get the in dash cd changer option like mine was) is part of the dash board and AC/heater cluster. in order to make a customized aftermarket one, to fit the 8.

BWX · Jun 3, 2006, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

@ Customgamer1: that is one huge amp!

It's actually a subwoofer.. the biggest one in the world at the time it was made.

Yeah those Solo-Baric subs are nice.. it's nice to get good deep bass and still have space in your car.
I build the box that is in my car- it weighs about 100 pounds.. 2 huge 3inch diameter ports.. it's really stupid.

Customgamer1 · Jun 3, 2006, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BWX

I build the box that is in my car- it weighs about 100 pounds.. 2 huge 3inch diameter ports.. it's really stupid.

I think thats the best way to go. It may not look that nice but the weight will prevent at least for the most part anyone thinking about steeling your subs

And I am thinking of coming up with a way I can bolt my sub box to my car so it would take someone a really long time to take!!!

CDsDontBurn · Jun 4, 2006, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Customgamer1

And I am thinking of coming up with a way I can bolt my sub box to my car so it would take someone a really long time to take!!!

if that's the case, a smart and determined thief will take the whole car and part out EVERYTHING later

.

Customgamer1 · Jun 4, 2006, 01:04 AM

Well at least you would get insurance money that way. Insurance does not really cover car audio!

CDsDontBurn · Jun 4, 2006, 04:41 AM

^^ true

but remember, insurance doesn't cover ANYTHING aftermarket....which would include stereo

Dark Lord · Jun 4, 2006, 05:01 AM

my friends car got broke into and they stole about 900 worth of car audio equipment. they called up their insurance agent and the insurance company coverd it. i think he got a check from them for 1000. 900 for the stereo equip. and 100 for a new window.

CDsDontBurn · Jun 4, 2006, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord

my friends car got broke into and they stole about 900 worth of car audio equipment. they called up their insurance agent and the insurance company coverd it. i think he got a check from them for 1000. 900 for the stereo equip. and 100 for a new window.

that's cool. but did he include the aftermarket stereo though? insurance companies will cover aftermarket stuff if you pay for it on your insurance policy

Dark Lord · Jun 4, 2006, 05:39 AM

not a clue on that part.

CDsDontBurn · Jun 4, 2006, 05:42 AM

yea, why don't you ask him to see if he had included his aftermarket stereo in his insurance policy.

pr0digal jenius · Jun 4, 2006, 06:08 AM

actually, i think basic theft coverage is up to $1000 no matter what it is

and yes...I have a 40th Anniversary Mustang GT Coupe with 22,000 Miles

Customgamer1 · Jun 4, 2006, 09:08 AM

Sweet car prodIgal!! and thats cool about the insurance company covering his audio

Prodigal want to switch!?!?!

pr0digal jenius · Jun 4, 2006, 03:39 PM

nah, i'm good

I'll get pics of mine up today since it's nice and sunny and I have the day off

[mind you it's filthy due to being rained on twice ad parking in a gravel parking lot....ah well...free access to the detail shop at work

]

Customgamer1 · Jun 4, 2006, 05:47 PM

well maybe you would know but I would like to know how you do a burn out in a manual car? Not that I really want to do one but it would be nice to know!

Jun 1, 2006, 11:03 PM	Thread Starter #151
Customgamer1 Fell off the tech wagon Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,273 Rep Power: 72 System Specs	Anyone any good at car audio or better Mustang audio? I have mach audio and well thats the up grade sound but it still sucks and I know it's a pain to replace but if anyone else has any car audio suggestions that would be a great help! What kind of speakers/subs you have? __________________ Asus Laptop: 2.5 Intel Core 2 Duo, 4gigs DDR 2, Windows 7 64bit! Windows 7 > OSX!

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CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	i would go w/a pioneer sound system all the way around, and for the subs, i would choose RockfordFosgate or MB Quartz __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Jun 2, 2006, 05:29 AM	Thread Starter #153
Customgamer1 Fell off the tech wagon Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,273 Rep Power: 72 System Specs	Why pioneer? I know they make ok speakers but eclipse are good and other brands like that?? Is that what you had in your 8? __________________ Asus Laptop: 2.5 Intel Core 2 Duo, 4gigs DDR 2, Windows 7 64bit! Windows 7 > OSX!

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BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	I would go with Phoenix Gold.. just because of my experience with the quality of everything they make.. and price is reasonable too. Sound quality.. better than anything I have heard.. listening head to head in an audio shop on a big board full of 40 different speakers.. That was with coaxials though.. (edit- Phoenix gold coaxials and some other brands separates- but the PG's coax's sounded better than the other brands separates as well.. that is saying something) -subs are a different story. JL, etc. for high end.. I personally like MTX for their mid-ranged subwoofer product line. I have a relatively inexpensive 4 channel Pioneer amp (3 including the "Optimus" amps I have that are no longer being made, but were made by Pioneer- or whoever makes the Pioneer amps) .. Anyway they all work great and have for quite a few years.. they stand up well to abuse.. great midrange line of amps. Of course the more you spend, the more you get, and you have to look at different manufacturers. __________________ Last edited by BWX; Jun 2, 2006 at 05:48 AM.

Jun 2, 2006, 06:44 AM	#156
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	i have 4 pioneers in my vette (2x 4x6, 2x 6x9) and they sound pretty damn good to me. of course, im also running with out an amp right now, so im just getting power from the weak head unit. 2rms x 4 channel i think. the speakers are rated at 20 and 40rms per channel. once i put an amp in, it should be much better. __________________

Jun 2, 2006, 06:51 AM	#157
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	definately sound much better and cleaner. you might not want to run the speakers at full blast until you do get an amp put in though. from my understanding, the speakers will be under powered and burn out much quicker than normal life expectancy. i think BWX would know more about that though since he's the "speaker expert" __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Jun 2, 2006, 06:58 AM	#158
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	ya, i dont run it full out right now. sounds like crap from being underpowerd. with the amp though, i sure as hell hope i can hear the radio with the windows down @ 60-70mph. __________________

Jun 2, 2006, 07:10 AM	#159
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	yea, you should be able to __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Jun 2, 2006, 11:40 PM	Thread Starter #160
Customgamer1 Fell off the tech wagon Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,273 Rep Power: 72 System Specs	Well I guess I will have to do some speaker research! But like always I need to set my budget or I know I will go all out and find out I can't afford it and end up in a big black hole lol The Sub I like from MTX is this one!!! Now only if my stang could hold it... http://www.mtxaudio.com/caraudio/pro...jackHammer.cfm __________________ Asus Laptop: 2.5 Intel Core 2 Duo, 4gigs DDR 2, Windows 7 64bit! Windows 7 > OSX!

Jun 3, 2006, 02:21 AM	#161
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	I rather like the Mach system.....but yes...it is difficult, nigh impossible to upgrade...I'm debating adding a sub and leaving the rest as is for simplicity

Jun 3, 2006, 04:03 AM	#162
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	@ Customgamer1: that is one huge amp! lol....actually, the stereo shop i get my stuff done at has one on display. it is one huge monster! @ PJ: just get stay simple w/a head unit, 2 12s, and an amp to power those two beasts . __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Jun 3, 2006, 05:20 AM	#163
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	can't replace a mach head unit...it's molded into the dash...you have to replace the entire console. I'm looking into ripping out the mach and getting a shaker system though, since the shaker has MP3 capability and the mach doesn't...but for now 6 disc in dash is just fine

Jun 3, 2006, 05:58 AM	#164
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	6 disk in dash changer? god... im feeling a little primitive here. ive got an AM/FM with cassete. if i want cd, or mp3, i need to plug the adapter into my cassete deck and hook it up to my portable cd player. __________________

Jun 3, 2006, 07:31 AM	Thread Starter #166
Customgamer1 Fell off the tech wagon Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,273 Rep Power: 72 System Specs	So PrOdigal you have a Mustang to? With Mach audio or do other cars come with it? __________________ Asus Laptop: 2.5 Intel Core 2 Duo, 4gigs DDR 2, Windows 7 64bit! Windows 7 > OSX!

Jun 4, 2006, 01:04 AM	Thread Starter #171
Customgamer1 Fell off the tech wagon Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,273 Rep Power: 72 System Specs	Well at least you would get insurance money that way. Insurance does not really cover car audio! __________________ Asus Laptop: 2.5 Intel Core 2 Duo, 4gigs DDR 2, Windows 7 64bit! Windows 7 > OSX!

Jun 4, 2006, 04:41 AM	#172
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	^^ true but remember, insurance doesn't cover ANYTHING aftermarket....which would include stereo __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Jun 4, 2006, 05:01 AM	#173
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	my friends car got broke into and they stole about 900 worth of car audio equipment. they called up their insurance agent and the insurance company coverd it. i think he got a check from them for 1000. 900 for the stereo equip. and 100 for a new window. __________________

Jun 4, 2006, 05:39 AM	#175
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	not a clue on that part. __________________

Jun 4, 2006, 05:42 AM	#176
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	yea, why don't you ask him to see if he had included his aftermarket stereo in his insurance policy. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Jun 4, 2006, 06:08 AM	#177
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	actually, i think basic theft coverage is up to $1000 no matter what it is and yes...I have a 40th Anniversary Mustang GT Coupe with 22,000 Miles

Jun 4, 2006, 09:08 AM	Thread Starter #178
Customgamer1 Fell off the tech wagon Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,273 Rep Power: 72 System Specs	Sweet car prodIgal!! and thats cool about the insurance company covering his audio Prodigal want to switch!?!?! __________________ Asus Laptop: 2.5 Intel Core 2 Duo, 4gigs DDR 2, Windows 7 64bit! Windows 7 > OSX!

Jun 4, 2006, 03:39 PM	#179
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	nah, i'm good I'll get pics of mine up today since it's nice and sunny and I have the day off [mind you it's filthy due to being rained on twice ad parking in a gravel parking lot....ah well...free access to the detail shop at work ]

Jun 4, 2006, 05:47 PM	Thread Starter #180
Customgamer1 Fell off the tech wagon Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,273 Rep Power: 72 System Specs	well maybe you would know but I would like to know how you do a burn out in a manual car? Not that I really want to do one but it would be nice to know! __________________ Asus Laptop: 2.5 Intel Core 2 Duo, 4gigs DDR 2, Windows 7 64bit! Windows 7 > OSX!