monitor is dying

CDsDontBurn · May 22, 2006, 04:38 AM

that's right, it's going kaput, kicking the bucket, or whatever you may want to call it. it's funny how it's slowly dying too

. the top half just goes completley black and has a bright line horizontally through the middle.

this gives me a great reason to upgrade

. though, the time couldn't be at any worse time

. I want to get that 24in. widescreen Dell monitor

. but, ATM, since i can't, i just have to live w/my monitor going only half out and tapping it a bit or adjusting it to get it back to normal.

Robert McClelland · May 22, 2006, 04:48 AM

that sucks

how old is by the way? my LCD monitor allready pushing over 3 years and 3 months and it's fine

CDsDontBurn · May 22, 2006, 04:57 AM

i've had the monitor for about 2yrs. already. i don't know how long the previous owner had it for though. i've been running it at 1600x1200 @ 75Hz since the day i got it. and i know the previous owner did the same. think that may have something to do w/the life span of the monitor?

oh yea....it's a CRT

Dark Lord · May 22, 2006, 05:13 AM

i got a good 8 years out of my old CRT. only in the past 2 years or so did it start to go. it was still actually working fine when i upgraded to my 2001fp, i just didnt care for the weak colors in some other quirks in it.

niceguyrichy · May 22, 2006, 05:23 AM

not a dell or anything

, but I got emailed an offer today on a 15" widescreen tft with a full 3 year warranty for £80 today

I want to buy 2 and mount them on my wall, but I'm broke.

(and my gf said no..)

ditto on the crt's btw, mines old and has been beaten up some, still works a charm

CDsDontBurn · May 22, 2006, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by niceguyrichy

(and my gf said no..)

that was great.

well, if worst comes to worst, i have my old 15in. CRT monitor sitting in a corner of my room since the day after i got my current monitor i'll use if the picture is just completley black. thing on that one is, that it's going out too.

Judas · May 22, 2006, 05:50 PM

Dell 30" 3007FPW, beautiful monitors... worth every penny.... steller to play games on and watch DVDs OR super high def videos (1080p, chew on this... 1600p kicks your ass)

swimtech · May 22, 2006, 06:11 PM

Vertical collapse...

Probably cost about 60-90(USD) to get repaired at a reputable shop by someone who knows what he's doing...

CDsDontBurn · May 23, 2006, 07:57 AM

WTF?!

vertical collapse? explain more please.

Judas · May 23, 2006, 05:33 PM

if it's anything like CRTs..... there is a portion of the monitors electronics that basically tells the monitor where to draw thing...

The demension of viewable space is also one of these fuctions... where the horizontal and vertical holds are (area of space)..

when vertical or horizontal holds fail.. (there are 2 for each) you get in say your case, the top vertical hold failing completely (it doesn't waver, just failed completely providing only the bottom half of the screen correct? )

where as fluctuating holds will kinda produce a slight distortion or wobbling effect intermitently or randomly. Where it'll drop maybe a portion of the screen, and different spots.. (not always are they directly centered portions.. it could be the edges/corners that are dropped somewhat)..

In any case, swimtech figures to get it fixed is going to cost you 60-90 USD to get your monitor back in working order..

But then again you've got the choice, 60-90 bucks to spend on a monitor that MAY have another part fail soon (as i've experienced that as soon as one thing starts to screw around on you, the rest falls in suit not to far after.. occasionally... not always)....

or you could pocket that money and save for a newer model lcd... your choice though

swimtech · May 23, 2006, 05:51 PM

Long story short - in a CRT only...

Vertical deflection circuits make the display work from the top to the bottom of the screen. There are generally two transistors (one for the top half, one for the bottom half) or one IC that handle that function.

Horizontal deflection circuits make the display work from side to side. There is generally one good-sized transistor that makes that part of the deflection circuit work (along with a large transformer...) - that part sounds to be ok in your unit.

If your CRT is older than 5 years, I would buy a new one rather than get the old one fixed - new CRTs are pretty inexpensive - or as Judas mentioned - save the money toward a new LCD display (which are more reliable by design).

Judas · May 23, 2006, 06:25 PM

so there are only 2... one for horizontal and vertical.... so if only half of the either fails... wouldn't both portions show the same results? (as they shrink to the center of the monitor tube correct? )

CDsDontBurn · May 24, 2006, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Judas

when vertical or horizontal holds fail.. (there are 2 for each) you get in say your case, the top vertical hold failing completely (it doesn't waver, just failed completely providing only the bottom half of the screen correct? )

yes, that is correct. the top half is completely black, the bottom half still shows, and a really bright line down the middle of both halves.

in order to get a picture on the entire screen, i have to either hit my monitor to get a picture. but more recently, i've been needing to tilt the monitor further and further downwards.

Judas · May 24, 2006, 05:56 AM

ooo... neato.. that may just need a bit o solder to fix er up.

CDsDontBurn · May 24, 2006, 06:55 AM

so then you're saying that it would be worth taking this monitor in to getting fixed then? i'm kinda strapped on cash right now, and although this is a great excuse for me to buy a new monitor, it has come at the worst possible time

.

Judas · May 24, 2006, 05:59 PM

i'd suggest keep shaking it till it blows up and then make a descision

no j/k

You said it was how old? sure you couldn't RMA it?

a well...

either save 60-90USD for new monitor, or spend it now and keep your old. (hopefully)

CDsDontBurn · May 24, 2006, 06:04 PM

i've had it for almost 2yrs., but i don't know how long the previous owner had it for though. i'm sure it's at least 3yrs. old already.

i'll look on the manufacturer's website to see how long the warranty is for to see if i can do an RMA on it. otherwise, i gotta get a new one, or get this one fixed.

Judas · May 24, 2006, 06:14 PM

Gl

Pluvious · May 24, 2006, 06:56 PM

I'm not sure I'd bother getting it fixed CDs.. the cost won't justify the price of a new CRT. CRT's are dirt cheap now (if you can find one.. hehe) and I'd recommend just getting a new one.

CDsDontBurn · May 24, 2006, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pluvious

I'm not sure I'd bother getting it fixed CDs.. the cost won't justify the price of a new CRT. CRT's are dirt cheap now (if you can find one.. hehe) and I'd recommend just getting a new one.

well, i know that, but the next monitor i'm going to get is going to be that 24in. widescreen from Dell. so, since i'm in a tight spot ATM, $60-$90 is much more affordable than $800-$900

CDsDontBurn · May 24, 2006, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas

Gl

thanks.

found the info on their site, but the MFD is labled as this: 2927

i don't knwo what that means. i'm not even sure if that's the manufacture date. that's what i would assume, but i'm not positive on that.

Judas · May 24, 2006, 07:08 PM

30th century technology blows

CDsDontBurn · May 24, 2006, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas

30th century technology blows

lol....don't you mean 20th Century?

Pluvious · May 24, 2006, 07:11 PM

If you have your heart set on a $900 monitor .. then you're right.. get it fixed for now. $60 would be a bargin.

Judas · May 24, 2006, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

lol....don't you mean 20th Century?

no

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

found the info on their site, but the MFD is labled as this: 2927

with an MFD of that..... it's 30th century

CDsDontBurn · May 24, 2006, 07:22 PM

but the format is supposed to be MM/DD/YYYY, so i'm like

Judas · May 24, 2006, 08:23 PM

i'll take it as a pure year

2927..... it's bloody new as hell man

CDsDontBurn · May 24, 2006, 09:24 PM

lol....so new it's not even made yet

. and CRTs will live forever!!!!!

Judas · May 24, 2006, 10:20 PM

apparently

CDsDontBurn · May 25, 2006, 01:30 AM

lol....doing some cleaning just now, i found out that if i tilt the monitor up high enough, the entire monitor goes out except for the bright line through the middle

May 22, 2006, 04:38 AM	#1
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May 22, 2006, 04:48 AM	#2
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,668 Rep Power: 196 System Specs	that sucks how old is by the way? my LCD monitor allready pushing over 3 years and 3 months and it's fine __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://www.speedtest.net/result/1949536385.png correct the correct one now

May 22, 2006, 04:57 AM	Thread Starter #3
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,794 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	i've had the monitor for about 2yrs. already. i don't know how long the previous owner had it for though. i've been running it at 1600x1200 @ 75Hz since the day i got it. and i know the previous owner did the same. think that may have something to do w/the life span of the monitor? oh yea....it's a CRT __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

May 22, 2006, 05:13 AM	#4
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 125 System Specs	i got a good 8 years out of my old CRT. only in the past 2 years or so did it start to go. it was still actually working fine when i upgraded to my 2001fp, i just didnt care for the weak colors in some other quirks in it. __________________

May 22, 2006, 06:11 PM	#8
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	Vertical collapse... Probably cost about 60-90(USD) to get repaired at a reputable shop by someone who knows what he's doing... __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

May 23, 2006, 07:57 AM	Thread Starter #9
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,794 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	WTF?! vertical collapse? explain more please. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

May 23, 2006, 05:51 PM	#11
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	Long story short - in a CRT only... Vertical deflection circuits make the display work from the top to the bottom of the screen. There are generally two transistors (one for the top half, one for the bottom half) or one IC that handle that function. Horizontal deflection circuits make the display work from side to side. There is generally one good-sized transistor that makes that part of the deflection circuit work (along with a large transformer...) - that part sounds to be ok in your unit. If your CRT is older than 5 years, I would buy a new one rather than get the old one fixed - new CRTs are pretty inexpensive - or as Judas mentioned - save the money toward a new LCD display (which are more reliable by design). __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

May 24, 2006, 06:55 AM	Thread Starter #15
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,794 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	so then you're saying that it would be worth taking this monitor in to getting fixed then? i'm kinda strapped on cash right now, and although this is a great excuse for me to buy a new monitor, it has come at the worst possible time . __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

May 24, 2006, 06:04 PM	Thread Starter #17
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,794 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	i've had it for almost 2yrs., but i don't know how long the previous owner had it for though. i'm sure it's at least 3yrs. old already. i'll look on the manufacturer's website to see how long the warranty is for to see if i can do an RMA on it. otherwise, i gotta get a new one, or get this one fixed. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

May 24, 2006, 06:56 PM	#19
Pluvious Elisha = hottie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: USA CA. SF Bay Area Posts: 1,318 Rep Power: 0	I'm not sure I'd bother getting it fixed CDs.. the cost won't justify the price of a new CRT. CRT's are dirt cheap now (if you can find one.. hehe) and I'd recommend just getting a new one. __________________

May 24, 2006, 07:11 PM	#24
Pluvious Elisha = hottie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: USA CA. SF Bay Area Posts: 1,318 Rep Power: 0	If you have your heart set on a $900 monitor .. then you're right.. get it fixed for now. $60 would be a bargin. __________________

May 24, 2006, 07:22 PM	Thread Starter #26
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,794 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	but the format is supposed to be MM/DD/YYYY, so i'm like __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

May 24, 2006, 09:24 PM	Thread Starter #28
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,794 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	lol....so new it's not even made yet . and CRTs will live forever!!!!! __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

May 25, 2006, 01:30 AM	Thread Starter #30
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,794 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	lol....doing some cleaning just now, i found out that if i tilt the monitor up high enough, the entire monitor goes out except for the bright line through the middle __________________ Her First Day \| A year later