[Mousey]

I'm having more trouble at school with my assertive mentor.
At the minute i'm working on a project for photography (calculating some of the stuff i'll be using in realflow as i type) and it's taking me a while to get everything done since the project i'm calculating is taking forever and i have to keep an eye on realflow since it nags me for a license and it stops calculating when it nags.

Well, my mentor thinks that me dedicating all this time (6+ hours just setting up the scene) to this new project isn't good enough and is demanding i do all of my old stuff i haven't handed in from last year first. Now this is irritating me since she's also demanding i go to after school lessons in science and photography as well as the electronics one i'm willingly going to and getting plenty of work done.

Because i refused to go i was given the lessons as detentions basically meaning i HAD to go. If you miss detentions at my school you get put in isolation, Now here's the thing. These after-school coursework detentions are not official, registered detentions so i don't see how they can punish me with registered, official isolation.

If i get pulled up on this tomorrow and given an isolation i'm going to refuse to go to isolation and i won't be coming back into school. if i'm going to be dragged down there i'm going to turn around and walk straight out of school.
I've asked a few people in my classes and in my form and they 100% agree with me.

What's your thoughts?

[Senor_Mota]

It sounds like total BS to me since American schools are so much different. If that kind of sh!t happened here, there would definitely be some sort of ruckus and/or a pre-pubescent riot on their hands. Geez, it sounds like a regular concentration camp there.

I'm having some troubles with school myself - I'm trying to get into Boise State University, but my transcripts didn't push through in time from CSI, my two-year college experience, or from my high school. It's like God stepped and said "NO!!!".

Just keep in mind that it gets more monotonous and difficult from here on out Mousey. Don't let it get you down. KEEP ON TRUCKIN'!!!

[Vikingod]

Go to school and do what you're told. School is the easiest thing you will do in your life, no excuse not to do well. If you think it's hard, try living an adult life, when you're not told to do anything, but expected to get the job done. Top it off, there are real consiquences. Don't listen to what other kids say, because they are just as clueless as you.

If you are having problems with a teacher, talk to them like an adult, tell them your concerns, but make sure damn well you show that you're going to do the work as expected. You'd be surprised how responsive an adult is if they see a kid willing to use their brain. Take it from me, it's not worth putting your foot down on something you can't control in the first place. You'd only be hurting yourself.

Don't want to sound like I'm coming down hard on you. You seem like a pretty smart kid, and I'd hate to see you mess up your school life over a pissing contest with some teacher. You will deal with people just like her your entire life, so you might as well get used to it. There is a better life after school, but one must get through the necessary steps to get it, and being a rebelious teenager in school is one of them. Good luck.

[Dyre Straits]

If you're using unlicensed software for the project and it's interrupting the project, I can see why the teacher thinks you're wasting time.

I echo Vikingod's advice totally.

[Mousey]

Originally Posted by Vikingod

If you are having problems with a teacher, talk to them like an adult, tell them your concerns, but make sure damn well you show that you're going to do the work as expected. You'd be surprised how responsive an adult is if they see a kid willing to use their brain. Take it from me, it's not worth putting your foot down on something you can't control in the first place. You'd only be hurting yourself.

Been there, done that and narrowly escaped isolation all on the same day. I said to my IT teacher in a perfectly Civil manner that i don't want to go to after school IT lessons and if he could please stop pushing the matter on me. And whaddya know he said he'd have me put in isolation...
I didn't get the isolation, probably because his reason behind it was bullshit but still, not a good way to keep your star pupil going

[Falstaff]

You know Mousey...
creative genius
child prodigy
are you any of these?
even Mozart had to put up with keyboard lessons..
working hard builds character
I hope your not underestimating yourself
sounds like your mentor might have high expectations
I wonder what your expectatons are?
Success does not occur overnight, and working towards success is quite a lesson that contributes to your maturity.
If you become lazy or disorganized or just reluctant to work hard there is very little future in even creative ventures..
I am afraid you have only two choices then..
Politics and Law Enforcement...
work hard, learn much.
fear of faliure is natural, try to avoid escaping if you can and try harder.
I know this sounds like old fart talk.
My son had an IQ of 172 and my duaghter of 168 and neither of them learned their lessons early. When they became adults nobody cared how much they knew, only what they could do with their knowlege.
Your in the best possible positon to learn as much as you can before you have to work hard and pay taxes, go for as much as you can.
If you work harder, you will realize the dividends when you get your degree and land the job that you enjoy..
Dont give up Mousey and try harder.

[Vikingod]

Originally Posted by Mousey

Been there, done that and narrowly escaped isolation all on the same day. I said to my IT teacher in a perfectly Civil manner that i don't want to go to after school IT lessons and if he could please stop pushing the matter on me. And whaddya know he said he'd have me put in isolation...
I didn't get the isolation, probably because his reason behind it was bullshit but still, not a good way to keep your star pupil going

Did you say "I don't want to go after school." or did you say "I think I don't need to go after school, because I'm going to apply myself better during regular school hours and at home to improve my grade", and then do the things you actually said you would. Or have you burned those bridges and are on your last resort.

It's not about what you want, its about towing the line and doing what is expected of you. It feels like torture when you're a kid, but when you're older, you will appreciate having done it (some of it anyway). If it's a matter of being lazy and not thinking you have to do anything that you don't want to do, then you really have to get over it. You have no idea how much shit you will do in your life which you will loath. That's reality, you need to learn to deal with it. Best to figure it out now then ten years down the road when it's too late.

[Brutality]

I hate schools! They're retarded!

[Mousey]

Originally Posted by Vikingod

Did you say "I don't want to go after school." or did you say "I think I don't need to go after school, because I'm going to apply myself better during regular school hours and at home to improve my grade", and then do the things you actually said you would. Or have you burned those bridges and are on your last resort.

It's not about what you want, its about towing the line and doing what is expected of you. It feels like torture when you're a kid, but when you're older, you will appreciate having done it (some of it anyway). If it's a matter of being lazy and not thinking you have to do anything that you don't want to do, then you really have to get over it. You have no idea how much shit you will do in your life which you will loath. That's reality, you need to learn to deal with it. Best to figure it out now then ten years down the road when it's too late.

Saying what you said would be fine if i was the perfect pupil but i'm anything but, i'm disorganised, unmotivated and short tempered.
And the fact that the pressure and stress is really starting to pile on now doesn't help.

My mentor still won't leave me alone about my coursework and i just can't get any serious time put in at school, i doubt i'm going to get isolation but if i do i'll jump that hurdle when i get to it.

Besides the stress from all the work there's my relationship troubles and things aren't going too well at home eitheir, the instant anything's mentioned from school positive or negative the situation rapidly turns to crap and ends up in a row.

1 year of school trying to help me is worse than 10 years of constant bullying imo

[Falstaff]

your greatest battle is not the one you choose to fight with your mentor, it is yourself that you struggle with. You must embrace yourself and become aquainted with that stubborn and selfish other half of you or you will not grow emotionally or intellectually.

[Mousey]

Originally Posted by Falstaff

your greatest battle is not the one you choose to fight with your mentor, it is yourself that you struggle with. You must embrace yourself and become aquainted with that stubborn and selfish other half of you or you will not grow emotionally or intellectually.

I've realised when it comes to relationships i'm absolutely fucked and shouldn't bother if that counts?

[GutterPunk]

Originally Posted by Vikingod

Go to school and do what you're told. School is the easiest thing you will do in your life, no excuse not to do well. If you think it's hard, try living an adult life, when you're not told to do anything, but expected to get the job done. Top it off, there are real consiquences. Don't listen to what other kids say, because they are just as clueless as you.

If you are having problems with a teacher, talk to them like an adult, tell them your concerns, but make sure damn well you show that you're going to do the work as expected. You'd be surprised how responsive an adult is if they see a kid willing to use their brain. Take it from me, it's not worth putting your foot down on something you can't control in the first place. You'd only be hurting yourself.

Don't want to sound like I'm coming down hard on you. You seem like a pretty smart kid, and I'd hate to see you mess up your school life over a pissing contest with some teacher. You will deal with people just like her your entire life, so you might as well get used to it. There is a better life after school, but one must get through the necessary steps to get it, and being a rebelious teenager in school is one of them. Good luck.

take out the viking and and add ly and you will get what this statement is... godly and golden...!

[Falstaff]

Originally Posted by Mousey

I've realised when it comes to relationships i'm absolutely fucked and shouldn't bother if that counts?

you so young though..
get your act together now and start building your future, time is the only thing we can run out of before we knew we had it.
Get to know what you want Mousey and have some courage, that usually is the one thing that we forget about. Take a leap of faith and surprise yourself, when you accomplish something like your school challenges for instnace, it is very rewarding. I wish you all the luck in the world.

[Mousey]

Originally Posted by Falstaff

you so young though..
get your act together now and start building your future, time is the only thing we can run out of before we knew we had it.
Get to know what you want Mousey and have some courage, that usually is the one thing that we forget about. Take a leap of faith and surprise yourself, when you accomplish something like your school challenges for instnace, it is very rewarding. I wish you all the luck in the world.

There was an assembley this morning (that i was late for because of the winter traffic) that was talking about sixth form. I did originally decide that i don't give a shit where i go as long as i'm out of school. But after listening to this assembley sixth form sounds pretty good, i might even have a look into which subjects i can do.
And staying in bed on a free period sounds good to me

[Falstaff]

you have a future on the labour party mate...keep up the good work.

[Vikingod]

Originally Posted by Mousey

Saying what you said would be fine if i was the perfect pupil but i'm anything but, i'm disorganised, unmotivated and short tempered.
And the fact that the pressure and stress is really starting to pile on now doesn't help.

You seem to have a good understanding of your weaknesses, which is good. Now you have to make an effort to get over them. It's hard, especially when you're a teen, but it needs to be done unless you want to spend your time doing a job you hate, or that is below your abilities. You'd be surprised just how much stress goes away once you just get organized and start doing your work.

I had one semester at college where I was a total mess. Terrible unorganized, unmotivated, and drunk to boot. Grades weren't hot, and I was a ball of stress. Once I got over myself, kept a date-book, attended class and did what was expected of me, things got much better all around. I was able to deal with stress, and was a better person for it. I was even able to meet a few ladies, and have a good social life, without sacrificing my school work. The organizational and stress management skills I used then stick with me today, now that life is really crazy.

You'll be fine, once you get yourself together, and set a few goals. I've faith.

[ASUS UK]

Vikingod is absolutely right.

Just remember that everyone has been where you are at some point and everybody does things slightly differently and see's things with a different perspective. Also, things are never as bad as they seem, take a step back - Look at the problem and how you can fix it, then work on fixing it from the start.

What might have seemed adult and responsible to you, may have come across arrogant and rude to your teacher. They don't expect a young person to have an adult conversation...

As for your other worries, relationships and home life, remember to put first things first as to what you find important in your life. Relationships might seem important right now, but in fairness, they can probably wait. Try to focus on working hard at school, get those grades and you'll be able to put it behind you whilst also feeling a real sense of accomplishment.


-VK-

[Judas]

Frankly i'm thoroughly pissed at the schools.... and from what i've gathered.. it pretty much doesn't matter where you are in the world.. they typically are all the same...

They are more of a hinderence to education then a help.... Sure you may end up a school that is good, but like anyone else in the world, it's so far and few between, it's pretty much guaranteed that you'll end up a terrible school.

Sorry perhaps anything i state may be taken by a number of people as horrible.... at this point i frankly couldn't care because it's happening.... it does happen.. and it will continue to happen.

Quite often the "teachers" consider themselves a major authority... they "know" or so they beleive..

The good teachers are the ones that didn't know, had a hard time learning, and oventually learnt it and is now teaching it... why? Because they know what it's like... quite often though you'll never see these people teaching, it's unfortuneate, but we end up with the one that typically flew through the course in which they are teaching, which makes it more difficult for many of the students...

anyways, in the circumstances that your in, if i read and comprehended everything correctly, it's pretty damn rediclious what some of them are demanding....

I completely disagree with viking on the "Schools great, do what you are told, adult life is more difficult then school..." etc... the moment i got out of school, it's been a complete breeze in comparison.... And we didn't even have isolation.... so i would expect i would be even more pleased when i got the hell outa what your in.

While i do agree, being short tempered, won't help, being unorganized doesn't bode well.... I'd have to see how bad it really is to know if your causing yourself more grief or the teachers are...

In my case, i was constantly hurrassed by the teachers.... i was purposely given exceptionally low grades reguardless of the effort or detail put into any work i did, they simply demanded much more from me... and in the end, the result was simply tell them a straight answer NO to thier demands, only thing is, they just piled up the work even more figureing that i would say "holy shit i'm behind" but it didn't work that way. I'm glad as hell that all the last few years of school, the final exams are worth MUCH more then the entire years mark, resulting in 10-20% for my mark before the final, and walking out with more then passing marks which would signify how poor these teachers really are. In order to pass these classes, specially walking in with a 10%, i would have had to get 90%+ on the tests to pass.... So my job was being completed, they however weren't doing thier job obviously.

No, any discussion with a teacher should be a respectable tone, and to the point, you shouldn't have to use smooth grammer to slide your position across, that's rediclious.

The "I don't want to go to after school" is perfectly fine, If the teacher insists, simply state the case that instead of not wanting to go, that your NOT going to be going.

there is such thing as to much school within a period of the day.... i think 6 hours of school per day is way more then enough... that's half the waking day spent...

It obviously sounds like your already overloaded with the tasks at hand, quite a number of people work well under pressure, but just as many work even worse under preasure...

Some can't work at all enless they complete ONE thing at a time..... and no one tell me that someone should be able to multitask, YOU may be able to, OTHERS may or cannot. And i've seen people that figure they can multitask, and fail horribly... .efficiency at the job goes down the toilet, and so does the quality of the job usually.


I personally, NEVER studied, not even for a test.... i consider it a form of cheating personally....... i never did homework, i had my own chores to do and i was much to busy teaching myself actual REQUIRED LIFE Skills... with assistance from my father, and also teaching myself computer related skills considering that the school i went to simply didn't teach anything worth mentioning.... specially with outdated books.

I'm just gonna shut up right now, because i could probably right a book on how horrible all schools typically are.

[Mousey]

Wow judas that's one hell of a post, i won't quote it for the benefit of the forum skin o.o
Thanks for your insight dude.
And i'm guessing that i can trust a guy that thinks the same way i do about school who has a rig with a Q6600, 8GB of ram, an X38 mobo and 2 HD3870s lol