Formula 1 season 2008

RoyBatty · Mar 16, 2008, 12:06 AM

So here it comes again, a few hours to the new season start in Melbourne.
And as last year I expect nothing less than Ferrari win, though the qualification didn't turn out very well...
Maybe this season will be less boring with the new regulations, let's hope for less politics and more racing

Zardon · Mar 16, 2008, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RoyBatty

Maybe this season will be less boring with the new regulations

I doubt it tbh. Only way to make it more exciting is to cut two wheels off them

Neshi · Mar 16, 2008, 01:06 AM

I hope it will be a very nice season and may Raikonen win!

BlueMak · Mar 16, 2008, 04:59 AM

They should stop babysitting. So many limits, they are ruining the sport.

Having said that, GOO WILLIIAAAAAMS!!! (let's hope for first 5 places)

Watching it now live.

BlueMak · Mar 16, 2008, 05:16 AM

Hahahaha, the destructor of cars Massa is back to business. At least he hasn't forgotten how to destroy other cars...

Sato is out...what a shock!

BlueMak · Mar 16, 2008, 06:24 AM

Well, that was interesting.
Rosberg third place, not bad. Hamilto an easy win and Alonso out of the top 3, Very good day.

Neshi · Mar 16, 2008, 09:10 AM

uh... that was qualifieing yes?
the races still are on the sunday?

**temeteus82** · Mar 16, 2008, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Neshi

uh... that was qualifieing yes?
the races still are on the sunday?

Nico did finish 3rd.

Go Nico !!!

All races are on Sunday.

BlueMak · Mar 16, 2008, 09:40 AM

Today IS Sunday...
Race is over.

RoyBatty · Mar 16, 2008, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Zardon

I doubt it tbh. Only way to make it more exciting is to cut two wheels off them

It wasn't that boring today, but I'm afraid (and on the other side I hope, for Ferrari) it will be back to normal next time...
And no please, don't cut the wheels off, I don't want to watch Moto GP

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Originally Posted by BlueMak

Very good day.

Well I wouldn't say that, but at least one point for Kimi.

Al_Vampyre · Mar 16, 2008, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Zardon

I doubt it tbh. Only way to make it more exciting is to cut two wheels off them

Quoted for truth!

I understand the safety aspect but there are just too many regulations in F1 now, I would much rather watch the Touring Cars at least I can go out and buy one of them!

Much the same way I prefer the Superbikes to MotoGP...

Neshi · Mar 16, 2008, 11:08 AM

oh.. it was this early morning.. too bad I missed it.

niceguyrichy · Mar 16, 2008, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Al_Vampyre

Much the same way I prefer the Superbikes to MotoGP...

no way, really?
I stopped watching superbikes when the beeb picked up motoGP, best racing action on the tele by a mile

F1 was OK, looks like being a Hamilton procession though.

Neshi · Mar 16, 2008, 08:13 PM

Raikonen was having problems with his car again (as usual) and made some stupid mistakes at the end..
was a decent race but it didn't have a lot of finishers.

Matth · Mar 16, 2008, 09:11 PM

Well, this year, more rule meddling, more planned for next year (aerodynamics).

2008 Formula One season - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The gearbox must now last 4 races (5 place penalty)
The first unscheduled engine change is now "free" - still required to last 2 races.
No traction control, no engine braking, standard ECU, further restrictions on adjustment (eg. a "start line" engine map can be used, but cannot immediately be switched).
Q1 lengthened to 20 min, Q3 reduced to 10 minutes, no fuel credit, so position 1-10 teams start with the fuel remaining after qualifying.
Further standardization of materials and components.
Fuel must have 5.75% biofuel (oh for the days of the top team's "jungle juice").

It seems that F1 is being dragged closer and closer to "cheap" formulas with a standard chassis, and while it could be argued that it becomes more of a drivers championship if rich teams are not permitted to outspend their lesser opponents on exotic materials, that is not the spirit of F1 - excellence of car and driver.

If we wanted to see a cheap formula race, we'd watch "Formula Ford", or one of the other ones tha come before the "elite" of F1.

The only way to save F1, bring back EVERY bit of technology, and just keep cutting the engine size if it gets too fast, then technology will improve the breed - and get rid of fuel stops so that fuel economy becomes an issue. Teams that can't keep up with the cost, don't belong at the top table of motor sport, or should we now limit what Premiership football spends, to make things easier on the minnows?

BlueMak · Mar 16, 2008, 09:41 PM

I agree, too many rules. Worried so much about those that can't compete and you get a nerfed championship. I mean, is there a good reason for drivers like Sato to continue?

Wilier · Mar 17, 2008, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by niceguyrichy

...... best racing action on the tele by a mile

Not strictly true, perhaps for 2 wheels yea, but for 4, Oz V8 is amazing racing, even the longer races.
Now those are beasts to drive.... (at least they seem that way, Ive not been in one, although when we were in Perth last year I test drove a Holden V8 'Ute which was feckin BRILLIANT tbh)

TiredGeek · Mar 17, 2008, 03:10 PM

Yeh, too many silly rules. Why not just have a set that say something like "wheel at each corner (as many as you like, remember the 6 wheeler?), overall length =X, overall width =X, height overall =X, no active aero, engine size =X , any cylinder configuration." That way teams are free to experiment and we get to see different cars. Maybe even some technology might filter down to raod cars like it did/does from rally. At the moment it's only the paint that differs between the teams (especially McLaren & Ferrari, nudge nudge)........

This season I'll be happy if the bloody presenters could learn how to say "6th", that's six-th, SIX-TH. Not sickth, sith, sick or any of the other variations they manage to spit out all the time (OK, rant over

)

Markius · Mar 20, 2008, 02:37 AM

removing the traction control and all that made the race far more interesting than they have been in years past.
this is the season i get back into F1
(as much as u can in Aus, considering most races are on a 1-2am)

BlueMak · Mar 23, 2008, 07:55 AM

HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA, Massa managed to crash again alone under no pressure...HAHAHAHAHAHA, the rest of the drivers were lucky they weren't near him.
He is a living crash test dummy.

**temeteus82** · Mar 23, 2008, 08:49 AM

lol, he said on interview that the car was acting strange :P

Nice to see two Finnish flags at the top 3

Mar 16, 2008, 12:06 AM	#1
RoyBatty HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 1,941 Rep Power: 122 System Specs	Formula 1 season 2008 So here it comes again, a few hours to the new season start in Melbourne. And as last year I expect nothing less than Ferrari win, though the qualification didn't turn out very well... Maybe this season will be less boring with the new regulations, let's hope for less politics and more racing

Mar 16, 2008, 01:06 AM	#3
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,382 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	I hope it will be a very nice season and may Raikonen win! __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

Mar 16, 2008, 04:59 AM	#4
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,471 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	They should stop babysitting. So many limits, they are ruining the sport. Having said that, GOO WILLIIAAAAAMS!!! (let's hope for first 5 places) Watching it now live. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Mar 16, 2008, 05:16 AM	#5
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,471 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	Hahahaha, the destructor of cars Massa is back to business. At least he hasn't forgotten how to destroy other cars... Sato is out...what a shock! __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.* Last edited by BlueMak; Mar 16, 2008 at 05:30 AM.

Mar 16, 2008, 06:24 AM	#6
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,471 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	Well, that was interesting. Rosberg third place, not bad. Hamilto an easy win and Alonso out of the top 3, Very good day. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Mar 16, 2008, 09:10 AM	#7
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,382 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	uh... that was qualifieing yes? the races still are on the sunday? __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

Mar 16, 2008, 09:40 AM	#9
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,471 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	Today IS Sunday... Race is over. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Mar 16, 2008, 11:08 AM	#12
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,382 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	oh.. it was this early morning.. too bad I missed it. __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

Mar 16, 2008, 08:13 PM	#14
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,382 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	Raikonen was having problems with his car again (as usual) and made some stupid mistakes at the end.. was a decent race but it didn't have a lot of finishers. __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

Mar 16, 2008, 09:11 PM	#15
Matth Flash Banner Hater Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,426 Rep Power: 93 System Specs	Well, this year, more rule meddling, more planned for next year (aerodynamics). 2008 Formula One season - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The gearbox must now last 4 races (5 place penalty) The first unscheduled engine change is now "free" - still required to last 2 races. No traction control, no engine braking, standard ECU, further restrictions on adjustment (eg. a "start line" engine map can be used, but cannot immediately be switched). Q1 lengthened to 20 min, Q3 reduced to 10 minutes, no fuel credit, so position 1-10 teams start with the fuel remaining after qualifying. Further standardization of materials and components. Fuel must have 5.75% biofuel (oh for the days of the top team's "jungle juice"). It seems that F1 is being dragged closer and closer to "cheap" formulas with a standard chassis, and while it could be argued that it becomes more of a drivers championship if rich teams are not permitted to outspend their lesser opponents on exotic materials, that is not the spirit of F1 - excellence of car and driver. If we wanted to see a cheap formula race, we'd watch "Formula Ford", or one of the other ones tha come before the "elite" of F1. The only way to save F1, bring back EVERY bit of technology, and just keep cutting the engine size if it gets too fast, then technology will improve the breed - and get rid of fuel stops so that fuel economy becomes an issue. Teams that can't keep up with the cost, don't belong at the top table of motor sport, or should we now limit what Premiership football spends, to make things easier on the minnows? __________________ Mary had a little lamb, Her father shot it dead Now Mary takes her lamb to school, Between two crusts of bread

Mar 16, 2008, 09:41 PM	#16
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,471 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	I agree, too many rules. Worried so much about those that can't compete and you get a nerfed championship. I mean, is there a good reason for drivers like Sato to continue? __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Mar 17, 2008, 03:10 PM	#18
TiredGeek DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Yorkshire, UK Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0	Yeh, too many silly rules. Why not just have a set that say something like "wheel at each corner (as many as you like, remember the 6 wheeler?), overall length =X, overall width =X, height overall =X, no active aero, engine size =X , any cylinder configuration." That way teams are free to experiment and we get to see different cars. Maybe even some technology might filter down to raod cars like it did/does from rally. At the moment it's only the paint that differs between the teams (especially McLaren & Ferrari, nudge nudge)........ This season I'll be happy if the bloody presenters could learn how to say "6th", that's six-th, SIX-TH. Not sickth, sith, sick or any of the other variations they manage to spit out all the time (OK, rant over ) __________________ Never trust a man whom, when left alone in a room with a tea cosy, doesn't try it on.

Mar 20, 2008, 02:37 AM	#19
Markius DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,350 Rep Power: 0	removing the traction control and all that made the race far more interesting than they have been in years past. this is the season i get back into F1 (as much as u can in Aus, considering most races are on a 1-2am) __________________ DriverHeavens Aussie... "Lifes tragedy is that we get old too soon and wise too late"

Mar 23, 2008, 07:55 AM	#20
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,471 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA, Massa managed to crash again alone under no pressure...HAHAHAHAHAHA, the rest of the drivers were lucky they weren't near him. He is a living crash test dummy. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*