Opera and Norton 360

Falstaff · Jun 18, 2008, 08:30 AM

My trial period for my Toshiba laptop trialware was at an end, I upgraded the trail version of Norton 360 and was clicking on this and that when I noticed my Opera browser didnt work. Of course I sat for one hour waiting for Symantecs online tech support to respond to my question.
"will Opera and Norton 360 get along?"
I had to google it, but its a well known issue, and all the firewall manips that I tried didnt resolve the problem. Symantec is silent on the issue but I have a more pressing question.
Is the Opera browser vulnerable, and if so, is it more rubbish than IE?
I am not a Firefox user but I noticed Symantec said they would support it, but failed to mention whether it would support Opera.
Inquiring minds want to know as I fritter the minutes away googling answers about Opera..LOL

**Mousey** · Jun 18, 2008, 10:44 AM

Maybe it's time to switch to firefox then

Firefox 3 is released as far as i know. Go download it lol

Falstaff · Jun 18, 2008, 10:46 AM

just love the features in Opera, they are the shizzel, Norton is poop!!!!

Callandor · Jun 18, 2008, 11:57 AM

Opera mini is the shyte when it comes2mobile browsing,but if tit comes to tat you're better off switching to fire fox indeed.

BlueMak · Jun 18, 2008, 02:06 PM

Anythingelse > Norton.
Get rid of Norton keep Opera, even if Opera is free and Norton costs money.

Seriously.

PangingJr · Jun 18, 2008, 03:03 PM

are they a reason to get rid of a free web browser programs like opera or firefox, since it's such a small program?

if you still like to use the web browsers (other than IE) for browsing site contents like DH, then use it,
and if the antivirus supports IE better you can use IE for other sites or when needed.

Falstaff · Jun 18, 2008, 03:25 PM

I just like the features in Opera, havent used firefox in ages. I have read that Opera is rubbish in a variety of different places, and IE is rubbish and firefox is rubbish, etc etc...
IE is still on the lappy and I am keeping Norton even though it didnt perform as well as other AV suites, as an all in one its okay, but not brilliant by any stretch of the imagination. if Firefox is pretty then I will use it, I just there was an easy way to reskin IE without too much hassle.

Zardon · Jun 18, 2008, 03:26 PM

solution

deinstall norton 360. keep opera.

install avast avast! antivirus - high security and protection from malware with anti-spyware and anti-rootkit software built in

easy as pie and yes opera is the best browser Jeff......

Judas · Jun 18, 2008, 03:32 PM

norton = garbage.....

solve the problem by getting rid of the problem completely

PangingJr · Jun 18, 2008, 03:50 PM

for antivirus software on the notebook computer try something else that's lighter than norton's product, likes ESET Nod32, avast!.

PangingJr · Jun 18, 2008, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falstaff

I just like the features in Opera, havent used firefox in ages. I have read that Opera is rubbish in a variety of different places, and IE is rubbish and firefox is rubbish, etc etc...
IE is still on the lappy and I am keeping Norton even though it didnt perform as well as other AV suites, as an all in one its okay, but not brilliant by any stretch of the imagination. if Firefox is pretty then I will use it, I just there was an easy way to reskin IE without too much hassle.

well, if you want to keep the norton, and also like using opera (more than IE or firefox) then you will have to do like i mention before.
or why not also try firefox again then if the norton supports it better than opera?

Robert McClelland · Jun 18, 2008, 09:59 PM

Hey Jeff now you know why I got rid of norton 360 lol it was shit hehe. Best firewall right now I used is netveda best part it's free and it works wonders with routers

Plus I used avast now so far it's lighter on my system then norton 360 since 360 like suck up ram and scan your back ground always at 100% on usage I hated that thing so much.

Falstaff · Jun 18, 2008, 10:16 PM

those bloody background scans again...rubbish really.
I havent seen the memory usage you speak of, but then I have three gig to play with on my Toshy.
I upgraded the Norton to meet an immediate requirement and I am loath to uninstall it at this point, hearing for instance what happens when people do. I have three other laptops to play with so I will find the avast alternative for them but at this moment I am underwhelmed by Nortons wow and gee whizes really. I am thinking Norton is for the AOL crowd.

Zardon · Jun 19, 2008, 12:50 PM

the only norton app worth anything was norton corporate, the rest are rubbish. same as mcafee. bloatware.

**Mousey** · Jun 19, 2008, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zardon

the only norton app worth anything was norton corporate, the rest are rubbish. same as mcafee. bloatware.

Or Ghost perhaps? Can you actually remove norton now without editing your registry and everything to actually get rid of it?

PangingJr · Jun 19, 2008, 01:17 PM

as far as i know many Windows users don't like to use norton antivirus anymore these days (including myself since norton 2001 or 2002).
it's like you computer are running norton antivirus more than it's running other applications, the norton takes over Windows 'cause it's everywhere, in explorer, in IE, and when you want to remove the norton antivirus from your computer, its uninstaller would do a very clumsy job of it.

PangingJr · Jun 19, 2008, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mousey

Or Ghost perhaps?

as for Ghost (and nortom ghost), and as in the old days, a lot of professional people in computer fields depends on the program a lot,
the ghost .exe file can fit on a floppy disk, and people uses it from a floppy drive, for many years.

Zardon · Jun 19, 2008, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PangingJr

as far as i know many Windows users don't like to use norton antivirus anymore these days (including myself since norton 2001 or 2002).
it's like you computer are running norton antivirus more than it's running other applications, the norton takes over Windows 'cause it's everywhere, in explorer, in IE, and when you want to remove the norton antivirus from your computer, its uninstaller would do a very clumsy job of it.

Actually without going into detailed specifics as it bores me even talking about it, Norton Corporate was a very refined Anti Virus in Windows XP days. Many businesses used it (as did I over a large network) and it never affected the machines in the same way the home versions did. the interface was streamlined and the memory usage was significantly lower to suit the business market. When you combined this with the faster updates it was a very good application. It did however cost a small fortune.

Haven't touched it since Vista went final as it originally didn't work. Since then I have had trouble free experiences with the fanastic Avast Pro, which I think is without doubt the best AV out there right now.

As for software based firewall programs I wouldnt touch them, absolutely no need with a properly configured machine and a hardware firewall capable router.

PangingJr · Jun 19, 2008, 05:07 PM

it's a diferent Symantec's product, Z.

i was talking about "norton antivirus" product, it's the Symantec's consumer version, not the Corporate version.

Symantec Corporate products are quite different from Symantec's consumer versions.

----------------

"Norton" name is a Symantec's consumer version of a certain product, like "Norton AntiVirus 2008", "Norton 360",...
these Symantec's products are for Home or Home Office users. - Symantec Home & Home Office Store - Welcome

Here's the Symantec AntiVirus product you mention above and used to use before.... AntiVirus Corporate Edition - Symantec AntiVirus Corporate Edition: Features - Symantec Corp.

Zardon · Jun 19, 2008, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PangingJr

it's a diferent Symantec's product, Z.

i was talking about "norton antivirus" product, it's the Symantec's consumer version, not the Corporate version.

Symantec Corporate products are quite different from Symantec's consumer versions.

----------------

"Norton" name is a Symantec's consumer version of a certain product, like "Norton AntiVirus 2008", "Norton 360",...
these Symantec's products are for Home or Home Office users. - Symantec Home & Home Office Store - Welcome

Here's the Symantec AntiVirus product you mention above and used to use before.... AntiVirus Corporate Edition - Symantec AntiVirus Corporate Edition: Features - Symantec Corp.

ok and what? aren't we talking about Norton Antivirus products? I don't really care if its called Norton or Symantec Ficklelicker. If it works on installation like an antivirus client, thats what it is and the company are the same core group.

Relax for goodness sake this hardly warrants a debate. I gave Jeff some advise earlier and people are following it up with quite a bit of silly discussion to be honest.

@ Jeff, what was the outcome of your plan? you sticking with Norton 360?

PangingJr · Jun 19, 2008, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zardon

ok and what? aren't we talking about Norton Antivirus products?

well, all of my previous posts were not direct to your earlier posts at all.

i was referring to Jeff earlier posts, he uses the norton product, lol.

Zardon · Jun 19, 2008, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PangingJr

was referring to Jeff earlier posts, he uses the norton product, lol.

poor sod, eh

PangingJr · Jun 19, 2008, 05:44 PM

okay, lol.

Falstaff · Jun 19, 2008, 08:42 PM

whats this ficklelicker product again, cant seem to find on google or wiki...
go ahead, make sport of me..."sniff"
but I still listen to Journey and eat original Doritos...
I march to the beat of a different drum
got Opera to work though...
so I am happy.

PangingJr · Jun 19, 2008, 09:51 PM

i'm just confused with all that, lol.
i did not realize that i made a reply or a direct response to any of your posts, Zardon.
then until you qouted me, i had to reply to you. and that's about it.
but it seemed to me you didn't like something i said, but what was it?
i mostly read only what Jeff posted before.

anyway, would you recap what is your situation with the computer again, Jeff?
are you still using the norton 360 and it now supports opera okay?

Robert McClelland · Jun 20, 2008, 01:56 AM

Jeff just used avast and netveda you be very happy

so far no issues for me

Falstaff · Jun 20, 2008, 07:35 PM

Oh I am fine, my Norton and Opera are happy for the moment, I dont game so I guess I dont miss the memory issues I suppose, but thanx for your replies, I hope Pangy sorts his issues out too.

PangingJr · Jun 20, 2008, 08:50 PM

that would be silly Jeff, i don't think i have a issue with Z, what went wrong is already end,
glad to know your problem is sorted out, and you take it easy, Jeff.

Jun 18, 2008, 08:30 AM	#1
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	Opera and Norton 360 My trial period for my Toshiba laptop trialware was at an end, I upgraded the trail version of Norton 360 and was clicking on this and that when I noticed my Opera browser didnt work. Of course I sat for one hour waiting for Symantecs online tech support to respond to my question. "will Opera and Norton 360 get along?" I had to google it, but its a well known issue, and all the firewall manips that I tried didnt resolve the problem. Symantec is silent on the issue but I have a more pressing question. Is the Opera browser vulnerable, and if so, is it more rubbish than IE? I am not a Firefox user but I noticed Symantec said they would support it, but failed to mention whether it would support Opera. Inquiring minds want to know as I fritter the minutes away googling answers about Opera..LOL __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jun 18, 2008, 10:44 AM	#2
Mousey Synth's Long Lost Bro Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Web Design Hell Posts: 7,189 Rep Power: 245 System Specs	Maybe it's time to switch to firefox then Firefox 3 is released as far as i know. Go download it lol __________________

Jun 18, 2008, 10:46 AM	Thread Starter #3
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	just love the features in Opera, they are the shizzel, Norton is poop!!!! __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jun 18, 2008, 11:57 AM	#4
Callandor Forged on Dragonmount Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 7,244 Rep Power: 304 System Specs	Opera mini is the shyte when it comes2mobile browsing,but if tit comes to tat you're better off switching to fire fox indeed. __________________

Jun 18, 2008, 02:06 PM	#5
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,471 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	Anythingelse > Norton. Get rid of Norton keep Opera, even if Opera is free and Norton costs money. Seriously. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Jun 18, 2008, 03:03 PM	#6
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	are they a reason to get rid of a free web browser programs like opera or firefox, since it's such a small program? if you still like to use the web browsers (other than IE) for browsing site contents like DH, then use it, and if the antivirus supports IE better you can use IE for other sites or when needed.

Jun 18, 2008, 03:25 PM	Thread Starter #7
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	I just like the features in Opera, havent used firefox in ages. I have read that Opera is rubbish in a variety of different places, and IE is rubbish and firefox is rubbish, etc etc... IE is still on the lappy and I am keeping Norton even though it didnt perform as well as other AV suites, as an all in one its okay, but not brilliant by any stretch of the imagination. if Firefox is pretty then I will use it, I just there was an easy way to reskin IE without too much hassle. __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jun 18, 2008, 03:26 PM	#8
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	solution deinstall norton 360. keep opera. install avast avast! antivirus - high security and protection from malware with anti-spyware and anti-rootkit software built in easy as pie and yes opera is the best browser Jeff......

Jun 18, 2008, 03:50 PM	#10
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	for antivirus software on the notebook computer try something else that's lighter than norton's product, likes ESET Nod32, avast!.

Jun 18, 2008, 09:59 PM	#12
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,668 Rep Power: 196 System Specs	Hey Jeff now you know why I got rid of norton 360 lol it was shit hehe. Best firewall right now I used is netveda best part it's free and it works wonders with routers Plus I used avast now so far it's lighter on my system then norton 360 since 360 like suck up ram and scan your back ground always at 100% on usage I hated that thing so much. __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://www.speedtest.net/result/1949536385.png correct the correct one now

Jun 18, 2008, 10:16 PM	Thread Starter #13
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	those bloody background scans again...rubbish really. I havent seen the memory usage you speak of, but then I have three gig to play with on my Toshy. I upgraded the Norton to meet an immediate requirement and I am loath to uninstall it at this point, hearing for instance what happens when people do. I have three other laptops to play with so I will find the avast alternative for them but at this moment I am underwhelmed by Nortons wow and gee whizes really. I am thinking Norton is for the AOL crowd. __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jun 19, 2008, 12:50 PM	#14
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	the only norton app worth anything was norton corporate, the rest are rubbish. same as mcafee. bloatware.

Jun 19, 2008, 01:17 PM	#16
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	as far as i know many Windows users don't like to use norton antivirus anymore these days (including myself since norton 2001 or 2002). it's like you computer are running norton antivirus more than it's running other applications, the norton takes over Windows 'cause it's everywhere, in explorer, in IE, and when you want to remove the norton antivirus from your computer, its uninstaller would do a very clumsy job of it.

Jun 19, 2008, 05:07 PM	#19
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	it's a diferent Symantec's product, Z. i was talking about "norton antivirus" product, it's the Symantec's consumer version, not the Corporate version. Symantec Corporate products are quite different from Symantec's consumer versions. ---------------- "Norton" name is a Symantec's consumer version of a certain product, like "Norton AntiVirus 2008", "Norton 360",... these Symantec's products are for Home or Home Office users. - Symantec Home & Home Office Store - Welcome Here's the Symantec AntiVirus product you mention above and used to use before.... AntiVirus Corporate Edition - Symantec AntiVirus Corporate Edition: Features - Symantec Corp. Last edited by PangingJr; Jun 19, 2008 at 05:25 PM.

Jun 19, 2008, 05:44 PM	#23
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	okay, lol.

Jun 19, 2008, 08:42 PM	Thread Starter #24
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	whats this ficklelicker product again, cant seem to find on google or wiki... go ahead, make sport of me..."sniff" but I still listen to Journey and eat original Doritos... I march to the beat of a different drum got Opera to work though... so I am happy. __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jun 19, 2008, 09:51 PM	#25
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	i'm just confused with all that, lol. i did not realize that i made a reply or a direct response to any of your posts, Zardon. then until you qouted me, i had to reply to you. and that's about it. but it seemed to me you didn't like something i said, but what was it? i mostly read only what Jeff posted before. anyway, would you recap what is your situation with the computer again, Jeff? are you still using the norton 360 and it now supports opera okay?

Jun 20, 2008, 01:56 AM	#26
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,668 Rep Power: 196 System Specs	Jeff just used avast and netveda you be very happy so far no issues for me __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://www.speedtest.net/result/1949536385.png correct the correct one now

Jun 20, 2008, 07:35 PM	Thread Starter #27
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	Oh I am fine, my Norton and Opera are happy for the moment, I dont game so I guess I dont miss the memory issues I suppose, but thanx for your replies, I hope Pangy sorts his issues out too. __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jun 20, 2008, 08:50 PM	#28
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	that would be silly Jeff, i don't think i have a issue with Z, what went wrong is already end, glad to know your problem is sorted out, and you take it easy, Jeff.