Terminator: Salvation possible spoilers

CDsDontBurn · Jun 2, 2009, 02:00 AM

Who's seen it?

I saw it on friday night. if you're a Terminator fan, it's a GREAT movie! and IMO, they left it open for yet another movie to follow.

oh, and Arnie is in it

Mac Daddy · Jun 2, 2009, 03:01 AM

Haven't seen it yet if Arnie is in it I am in

CDsDontBurn · Jun 2, 2009, 03:35 AM

Arnie isn't a major role though, but he does kick ass in it. not saying who's ass he's kicking though

Cow_160483 · Jun 2, 2009, 01:21 PM

saw the trailer on Sunday when i was watching star trek and definitely a must watch for me

OmegaRED · Jun 2, 2009, 01:27 PM

As a Terminator movie it was a terrible letdown but as an action film it was pretty good. There's nonstop action and more explosions than a Michael Bay film but there's little to no humor or any of the writing quality of the first two films.

I had a Terminator marathon after seeing Salvation which concluded with a fan edit of T3 called "The Coming Storm; it edited out all the tongue in cheek and stupid parts to make a surprisingly decent film. I think once Salvation hits DVD and an edit is made of it then it will also be a great film (there's just a few horrible scenes in T4 but if they were removed it wouldn't affect the plot and would make the experience so much better).

Arnold's cameo in T4 was nice and was about the only time I smiled but it also shat on T3 which Arnold said he assassinated John Connor in the future because Skynet choose his model to take advantage of Connor's childhood attachment to the Arnie terminator...that's not gonna happen if Arnie tries to kill him in T4! McG obviously needed an excuse to put Arnold in the movie and didn't think how it would screw up the story.

Zardon · Jun 2, 2009, 02:32 PM

Yeah a few friends have told me as a film its great, but its not a wonderful "terminator" film. Will catch it at some point.

I hope to god Bale is better in this role because he was bloody awful as batman.

OmegaRED · Jun 2, 2009, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Zardon

Yeah a few friends have told me as a film its great, but its not a wonderful "terminator" film. Will catch it at some point.

I hope to god Bale is better in this role because he was bloody awful as batman.

Sadly, he is far worse in Terminator. He's screaming in his Batman voice in nearly every scene and always serious (not at all like his younger self) and Sam Worthington steals every scene from him. I sure as hell would like to know what scene Bale got upset over in that infamous recording because there is no scene in this film which will make you care what happens to anyone.

CDsDontBurn · Jun 3, 2009, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRED

Arnold's cameo in T4 was nice and was about the only time I smiled but it also shat on T3 which Arnold said he assassinated John Connor in the future because Skynet choose his model to take advantage of Connor's childhood attachment to the Arnie terminator...that's not gonna happen if Arnie tries to kill him in T4! McG obviously needed an excuse to put Arnold in the movie and didn't think how it would screw up the story.

I don't think it totally shat on T3. Perhaps Arnie is the base design of the T-800 which could be something that we don't know about yet? And as the models proceed, T-1000 and so fourth, the flesh changes as well?

IMO, i think it's been left open enough for them to make another movie about John Connor sending the kid back in time and to father John Connor. Then skynet will send a T-800 to follow back in time attempt to kill Sarah Connor and starting the loop all over again. and while the future continues, later on, a T-800 will kill John Connor.

thunderclap · Jun 3, 2009, 02:40 PM

I thought Terminator Salvation was terrible. Absolutely one of the worst movies I've ever seen. As to why I need to reveal spoilers, so be warned...

*** SPOILERS BELOW ***

The opening sequence was pointless. We really didn't need a three minute setup for Marcus donating his body after his execution. The entire ruse Skynet sets up to capture Connor is pointless. They have Reese who is Connor's father. Instead of killing him while they have the chance (thereby preventing Connor's birth) they put him in a cell to provoke Connor to come to Skynet. Huh???

Then there is the idiotic heart transplant at the end. I just can't buy a heart transplant in the middle of a windy desert. Sorry, but this was just lame.

The two hour movie was an hour and 50 min. action sequence. This does not make for a good film. Not only is it disrespectful to the previous films, it was boring. Everyone involved in greenlighting Terminator Salvation should all burn in hell.

comp_ali · Jun 3, 2009, 03:53 PM

LOL

OmegaRED · Jun 4, 2009, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thunderclap

I thought Terminator Salvation was terrible. Absolutely one of the worst movies I've ever seen. As to why I need to reveal spoilers, so be warned...

*** SPOILERS BELOW ***

The opening sequence was pointless. We really didn't need a three minute setup for Marcus donating his body after his execution. The entire ruse Skynet sets up to capture Connor is pointless. They have Reese who is Connor's father. Instead of killing him while they have the chance (thereby preventing Connor's birth) they put him in a cell to provoke Connor to come to Skynet. Huh???

Then there is the idiotic heart transplant at the end. I just can't buy a heart transplant in the middle of a windy desert. Sorry, but this was just lame.

The two hour movie was an hour and 50 min. action sequence. This does not make for a good film. Not only is it disrespectful to the previous films, it was boring. Everyone involved in greenlighting Terminator Salvation should all burn in hell.

Dude! I agree 100%! People who gloss over these parts are in denial or just don't have any taste in movies.

I was like wtf...why are they doing a transplant on their savior in the desert; it was so stupid. Skynet was reduced to a joke in this movie...they could have killed Connor but didn't AND they had no way of possibly knowing that Reese was Connor's father but some hack writer figured no one would notice.

If Helena Bonham Carter's scenes are deleted from the movie it would actually be a lot better. She's a great actress but her role(s) in this movie are cringe worthy and don't add anything to the plot that we don't already know. Without her in this movie, you're looking at 2 more stars out of 10 for sure. The fan edit of T4 is gonna be pretty good I'd wait for it if you decided to skip on the theatrical version (though I doubt you did if you're reading this thread).

Reckless187 · Jun 5, 2009, 12:06 AM

I thought it was an ok movie, I've never gone into a movie expecting great things as you're usually always let down and I dont class myself as a movie buff or critic to begfin with anyway.

Arnie wasnt actualy in the movie, it was a CGI'd version of him

Zardon · Jun 9, 2009, 11:26 PM

Went to see this tonight with not many high hopes as I had basically heard the storyline already on a few sites I visit.

It was exactly as I expected and I left feeling utterly underawed by the whole experience. I appreciate Christian Bale is a fine method actor and I thought he delivered a fine performance in The Machinist a few years ago. That said, I wish he would avoid these kind of action movies as he seems to think that continuously shouting and making semi guttural phrases is appealing (much like he did in Batman).

As for the rest of the film, just as expected - a mind numbing barrage of special effects, a plethora of explosions and much running about like semi retarded idiots while the script sagged behind the action like the limp bastard child of the director. McG should perhaps return to pop videos.

Sure, Terminator Salvation is mindless fun, but its predominately also shit.

OmegaRED · Jun 10, 2009, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Zardon

... a mind numbing barrage of special effects, a plethora of explosions...

Did you happen to notice the excessive fire belching? Nearly every scene features fire bursting out of something. It was the tackiest thing in the movie for me and reminded me of some 80's sci-fi or a KISS concert.

Mac Daddy · Jun 10, 2009, 01:41 AM

I will await the DVD on KISS I may see them on my birthday in Nova Scotia

thunderclap · Jun 10, 2009, 01:42 PM

Didn't McG challenge Michael Bay to a contest of who had the bigger balls when it came to their movies? I never thought I'd say this, but at least Bay's movies are at least amusing to watch.

Zardon · Jun 10, 2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRED

Did you happen to notice the excessive fire belching? Nearly every scene features fire bursting out of something. It was the tackiest thing in the movie for me and reminded me of some 80's sci-fi or a KISS concert.

To be honest I was more stunned at some of the scripting decisions. I mean im not geeky enough to start quoting plot holes and issues in relation to the storyline from previous films but there were a few massive cockups with continuity.

When I think back to how utterly awesome the first two movies were I really am shocked to see this new film getting such high ratings from critics in newspapers and movie sites.

Tinkerhell · Jun 10, 2009, 07:54 PM

Agree with all the above. Enjoyable mind (d)numbing action flick. Shyte compared to T1 & 2.

They assault one of the MAIN skynet manufacturing plants.
We SEE the assembly line for the T units, so we know hat they are making.
They only have one or three units that can be routed to dispose of JC?
WTF?
And it happens to be the one wrapped in Arni flesh. Whatever.
My 15 month old son could probably have done better...

Yeah and we won't even get into the heart transplant...

Wait for the DVD folks. It's a let down if you are a fan of the first two movies.

Jun 2, 2009, 02:00 AM	#1
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Mac Daddy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,950 Rep Power: 79 System Specs	Re: Terminator: Salvation possible spoilers Haven't seen it yet if Arnie is in it I am in __________________ "My mom said the only reason men are alive is for lawn care and vehicle maintenance." - Tim Allen

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CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,795 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	Re: Terminator: Salvation possible spoilers Arnie isn't a major role though, but he does kick ass in it. not saying who's ass he's kicking though __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

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Cow_160483 HH's only cow moooooo... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: BOTSWANA Posts: 6,821 Rep Power: 300 System Specs	Re: Terminator: Salvation possible spoilers saw the trailer on Sunday when i was watching star trek and definitely a must watch for me __________________ Decode! Muhahahahah!

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OmegaRED Relapsed Gamer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa , Canada Posts: 5,688 Rep Power: 173 System Specs	Re: Terminator: Salvation possible spoilers As a Terminator movie it was a terrible letdown but as an action film it was pretty good. There's nonstop action and more explosions than a Michael Bay film but there's little to no humor or any of the writing quality of the first two films. I had a Terminator marathon after seeing Salvation which concluded with a fan edit of T3 called "The Coming Storm; it edited out all the tongue in cheek and stupid parts to make a surprisingly decent film. I think once Salvation hits DVD and an edit is made of it then it will also be a great film (there's just a few horrible scenes in T4 but if they were removed it wouldn't affect the plot and would make the experience so much better). Arnold's cameo in T4 was nice and was about the only time I smiled but it also shat on T3 which Arnold said he assassinated John Connor in the future because Skynet choose his model to take advantage of Connor's childhood attachment to the Arnie terminator...that's not gonna happen if Arnie tries to kill him in T4! McG obviously needed an excuse to put Arnold in the movie and didn't think how it would screw up the story. __________________ E Penis Specs: <------------- See System Specs

Jun 2, 2009, 02:32 PM	#6
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Re: Terminator: Salvation possible spoilers Yeah a few friends have told me as a film its great, but its not a wonderful "terminator" film. Will catch it at some point. I hope to god Bale is better in this role because he was bloody awful as batman.

Jun 3, 2009, 02:40 PM	#9
thunderclap HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 348 Rep Power: 34	Re: Terminator: Salvation possible spoilers I thought Terminator Salvation was terrible. Absolutely one of the worst movies I've ever seen. As to why I need to reveal spoilers, so be warned... * SPOILERS BELOW * The opening sequence was pointless. We really didn't need a three minute setup for Marcus donating his body after his execution. The entire ruse Skynet sets up to capture Connor is pointless. They have Reese who is Connor's father. Instead of killing him while they have the chance (thereby preventing Connor's birth) they put him in a cell to provoke Connor to come to Skynet. Huh??? Then there is the idiotic heart transplant at the end. I just can't buy a heart transplant in the middle of a windy desert. Sorry, but this was just lame. The two hour movie was an hour and 50 min. action sequence. This does not make for a good film. Not only is it disrespectful to the previous films, it was boring. Everyone involved in greenlighting Terminator Salvation should all burn in hell. __________________ Marc B. Genrefinity.net - Your source for all things in the horror, science fiction and fantasy genres

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Reckless187 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 731 Rep Power: 57 System Specs	Re: Terminator: Salvation possible spoilers I thought it was an ok movie, I've never gone into a movie expecting great things as you're usually always let down and I dont class myself as a movie buff or critic to begfin with anyway. Arnie wasnt actualy in the movie, it was a CGI'd version of him __________________ Always have your stuff when you need it with @Dropbox. 2GB account is free! http://db.tt/cGbGwNo

Jun 9, 2009, 11:26 PM	#13
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Re: Terminator: Salvation possible spoilers Went to see this tonight with not many high hopes as I had basically heard the storyline already on a few sites I visit. It was exactly as I expected and I left feeling utterly underawed by the whole experience. I appreciate Christian Bale is a fine method actor and I thought he delivered a fine performance in The Machinist a few years ago. That said, I wish he would avoid these kind of action movies as he seems to think that continuously shouting and making semi guttural phrases is appealing (much like he did in Batman). As for the rest of the film, just as expected - a mind numbing barrage of special effects, a plethora of explosions and much running about like semi retarded idiots while the script sagged behind the action like the limp bastard child of the director. McG should perhaps return to pop videos. Sure, Terminator Salvation is mindless fun, but its predominately also shit.

Jun 10, 2009, 01:41 AM	#15
Mac Daddy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,950 Rep Power: 79 System Specs	Re: Terminator: Salvation possible spoilers I will await the DVD on KISS I may see them on my birthday in Nova Scotia __________________ "My mom said the only reason men are alive is for lawn care and vehicle maintenance." - Tim Allen

Jun 10, 2009, 01:42 PM	#16
thunderclap HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 348 Rep Power: 34	Re: Terminator: Salvation possible spoilers Didn't McG challenge Michael Bay to a contest of who had the bigger balls when it came to their movies? I never thought I'd say this, but at least Bay's movies are at least amusing to watch. __________________ Marc B. Genrefinity.net - Your source for all things in the horror, science fiction and fantasy genres

Jun 10, 2009, 07:54 PM	#18
Tinkerhell Not all fairies are nice. Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 989 Rep Power: 44	Re: Terminator: Salvation possible spoilers Agree with all the above. Enjoyable mind (d)numbing action flick. Shyte compared to T1 & 2. They assault one of the MAIN skynet manufacturing plants. We SEE the assembly line for the T units, so we know hat they are making. They only have one or three units that can be routed to dispose of JC? WTF? And it happens to be the one wrapped in Arni flesh. Whatever. My 15 month old son could probably have done better... Yeah and we won't even get into the heart transplant... Wait for the DVD folks. It's a let down if you are a fan of the first two movies. __________________ Stupidity should be painful if not terminal. Darwin for Sainthood!!

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