Defiance - the movie

Zardon · Jun 7, 2009, 10:04 PM

Saw it last night on bluray and was pleasantly surprised. First time I have found Daniel Craig to be watchable. great sets and cinematography too.

On another note I watched "The Broken" this week as well and it is just the most predictable nonsense I have seen. I had the ending by about 30 minutes in and was stunned to find out about an hour later I was right.

niceguyrichy · Jun 7, 2009, 10:18 PM

cool, got Defiance the other day but haven't gotten around to it yet.
good to know its worth a look, might watch it later on tonight

and I'm with you re Craig, the only thing I've ever liked him in was Moll Flanders (and nekked Alex Kingston had nothing to do with that. probably.)

Neshi · Jun 7, 2009, 10:38 PM

Although they say Defiance is based on an actual event, it isn't entirely true.. they let them look like 'heroes', but those men were scavenging villages, raping women etc.. But they don't show or tell you that. T'was a bunch of thieves and scum it was..

but it's a pretty good film otherwise..

Falstaff · Jun 7, 2009, 10:40 PM

I bought it a week ago and watched it several times. It is one of the best roles I have seen for Daniel Craig. I was moved by the story, the performance and the production. A cast of really strong actors and actresses that delivered a rewarding experience.
Havent seen the Broken.
Kept busy with Miyazaki movies this week too....never get enough.

Mac Daddy · Jun 8, 2009, 01:00 AM

Defiance I haven't seen yet perhaps next weekend.

Falstaff · Jun 8, 2009, 06:05 AM

If you can get past the premise for the movie, it is as someone already mentioned, about survival in Belarussia during the Nazi occupation, for a band of Jews and sympathisers fleeing tyranny and oppresion, fighting and dying in the forests of Poland. I was pleasantly pleased to see Alexa Davalos as well, as she added so much to some of the Chronicles of Riddick. She really draws you in. I think the casting was brilliant, but I am sure there is some dissention. If you remember Jamie Bell from his other movies his character will wont surprise you, Liev Schrieber adds his own flavor to the development of the story and I believe his performance is the matrix upon which all the characters interwoven within the story.
But then...
I am biased.

Mac Daddy · Jun 8, 2009, 12:05 PM

Well definitely looks like one to check out thanks for the feedback

Cow_160483 · Jun 8, 2009, 05:34 PM

Humm i might check this movie out soon

mkk · Jun 8, 2009, 10:02 PM

I had been saving it since I was somewhat sceptical of the story, but it was definitely enjoyable and could well have been a full three hours long without going stale. The brother relationship between Schriever and Craig worked very well and could have been played out even more. I also prefer it like this when a movie has many not so well known actors that do their parts just fine. They could have added someone like Ben Kingsley in the later part just for recognition, but they didn't and that was certainly for the better.

Zardon · Jun 8, 2009, 10:21 PM

did you manage to catch it in the movies or on bluray? I have to say some of the scenery and camera work was spectacular. really a great disc conversion too, ideal for showing off a high def tv.

mkk · Jun 8, 2009, 10:52 PM

In a small theater, seems it got late to Sweden without not much advertising. But yeah I remember now that I recurringly found myself thinking that the forest footage felt very lifelike and the camerawork fluid with some almost constant motion without getting shaky.

Also the often used intermixing of russian/polish language added to the atmosphere, but also had me fooled once or twice since in the theatre here it's all texted wether english or other. I try not to look at the text line whenever english is spoken since it detracts from the experience, so once or twice I missed a few words before I looked down on the text that I really needed to read. The actors use of accents on the english made me slow to react.

Mac Daddy · Jun 8, 2009, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mkk

I had been saving it since I was somewhat sceptical of the story, but it was definitely enjoyable and could well have been a full three hours long without going stale. The brother relationship between Schriever and Craig worked very well and could have been played out even more. I also prefer it like this when a movie has many not so well known actors that do their parts just fine. They could have added someone like Ben Kingsley in the later part just for recognition, but they didn't and that was certainly for the better.

OK I am definitely renting it this weekend if I can wait til then

Al_Vampyre · Jun 9, 2009, 09:23 AM

I saw it in the cinema - great movie loved the transition from black and white original footage to the beginning of the film.

Jun 7, 2009, 10:04 PM	#1
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Defiance - the movie Saw it last night on bluray and was pleasantly surprised. First time I have found Daniel Craig to be watchable. great sets and cinematography too. On another note I watched "The Broken" this week as well and it is just the most predictable nonsense I have seen. I had the ending by about 30 minutes in and was stunned to find out about an hour later I was right.

Jun 7, 2009, 10:38 PM	#3
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,384 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	Re: Defiance - the movie Although they say Defiance is based on an actual event, it isn't entirely true.. they let them look like 'heroes', but those men were scavenging villages, raping women etc.. But they don't show or tell you that. T'was a bunch of thieves and scum it was.. but it's a pretty good film otherwise.. __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

Jun 7, 2009, 10:40 PM	#4
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	Re: Defiance - the movie I bought it a week ago and watched it several times. It is one of the best roles I have seen for Daniel Craig. I was moved by the story, the performance and the production. A cast of really strong actors and actresses that delivered a rewarding experience. Havent seen the Broken. Kept busy with Miyazaki movies this week too....never get enough. __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jun 8, 2009, 01:00 AM	#5
Mac Daddy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,950 Rep Power: 79 System Specs	Re: Defiance - the movie Defiance I haven't seen yet perhaps next weekend. __________________ "My mom said the only reason men are alive is for lawn care and vehicle maintenance." - Tim Allen

Jun 8, 2009, 06:05 AM	#6
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	Re: Defiance - the movie If you can get past the premise for the movie, it is as someone already mentioned, about survival in Belarussia during the Nazi occupation, for a band of Jews and sympathisers fleeing tyranny and oppresion, fighting and dying in the forests of Poland. I was pleasantly pleased to see Alexa Davalos as well, as she added so much to some of the Chronicles of Riddick. She really draws you in. I think the casting was brilliant, but I am sure there is some dissention. If you remember Jamie Bell from his other movies his character will wont surprise you, Liev Schrieber adds his own flavor to the development of the story and I believe his performance is the matrix upon which all the characters interwoven within the story. But then... I am biased. __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jun 8, 2009, 12:05 PM	#7
Mac Daddy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,950 Rep Power: 79 System Specs	Re: Defiance - the movie Well definitely looks like one to check out thanks for the feedback __________________ "My mom said the only reason men are alive is for lawn care and vehicle maintenance." - Tim Allen

Jun 8, 2009, 05:34 PM	#8
Cow_160483 HH's only cow moooooo... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: BOTSWANA Posts: 6,821 Rep Power: 300 System Specs	Re: Defiance - the movie Humm i might check this movie out soon __________________ Decode! Muhahahahah!

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mkk Cthulhu/Dagon 2012 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gefle, Sweden Posts: 4,495 Rep Power: 132 System Specs	Re: Defiance - the movie I had been saving it since I was somewhat sceptical of the story, but it was definitely enjoyable and could well have been a full three hours long without going stale. The brother relationship between Schriever and Craig worked very well and could have been played out even more. I also prefer it like this when a movie has many not so well known actors that do their parts just fine. They could have added someone like Ben Kingsley in the later part just for recognition, but they didn't and that was certainly for the better.

Jun 8, 2009, 10:21 PM	Thread Starter #10
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Re: Defiance - the movie did you manage to catch it in the movies or on bluray? I have to say some of the scenery and camera work was spectacular. really a great disc conversion too, ideal for showing off a high def tv.

Jun 8, 2009, 10:52 PM	#11
mkk Cthulhu/Dagon 2012 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gefle, Sweden Posts: 4,495 Rep Power: 132 System Specs	Re: Defiance - the movie In a small theater, seems it got late to Sweden without not much advertising. But yeah I remember now that I recurringly found myself thinking that the forest footage felt very lifelike and the camerawork fluid with some almost constant motion without getting shaky. Also the often used intermixing of russian/polish language added to the atmosphere, but also had me fooled once or twice since in the theatre here it's all texted wether english or other. I try not to look at the text line whenever english is spoken since it detracts from the experience, so once or twice I missed a few words before I looked down on the text that I really needed to read. The actors use of accents on the english made me slow to react.

Jun 9, 2009, 09:23 AM	#13
Al_Vampyre HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,532 Rep Power: 72 System Specs	Re: Defiance - the movie I saw it in the cinema - great movie loved the transition from black and white original footage to the beginning of the film. __________________ "Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit; wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad" - Brian O'Driscoll - Ireland Rugby Team 2009 Grand Slam winning Captain.