Bluetooth - causing DNA and nerve damage?

Zardon · Jun 8, 2009, 01:50 PM

I was hunting around on google for something else and I stumbled upon this thread which fascinated me so much I just had to post it.

Check this out.

Apple - Support - Discussions - Bluetooth & AirPort -- DNA or Nerve ...

**Mousey** · Jun 8, 2009, 02:02 PM

To be honest i seriously doubt it, if it was true it would get to the point of "He's sending a file through bluetooth, take him down!" ect.

The symptons the guy's posted about on there are similair to the ones i get when i suffer cluster headaches, perhaps he needs to spend less time on the phone and more time just mellowin' out

mkk · Jun 8, 2009, 02:08 PM

I don't doubt that people can get hypersensitive to various kinds of electromagnetic forces. In an urban environment however there is so much energy in the air already to make me sceptical of what difference that a single off-skin Bluetooth device could make.

BlueMak · Jun 8, 2009, 02:09 PM

I skimmed through the first post.
It sounds like he is having or about to have a heart attack.

comp_ali · Jun 8, 2009, 02:15 PM

Apple guys !!

**Mousey** · Jun 8, 2009, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comp_ali

Apple guys !!

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMak

I skimmed through the first post.
It sounds like he is having or about to have a heart attack.

LOL

God forbid i try to send him a song via bluetooth then

niceguyrichy · Jun 8, 2009, 03:59 PM

I get quite a few of those symptoms every single day for most of the year.
got a strange name.. what is it now.... oh yeah. hayfever

hope to christ the guy doesn't suffer from travel sickness as well, he won't be able to leave his own damn house

Zardon · Jun 8, 2009, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comp_ali

Apple guys !!

That include me? I own four macs after all.

mike2h · Jun 8, 2009, 04:31 PM

looks like somebody pulled it.

comp_ali · Jun 8, 2009, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zardon

That include me? I own four macs after all.

Assuming you don't -rep me

.

Judas · Jun 8, 2009, 06:47 PM

they already demonstrated scientifically that various sound/radio/light frequencies can have SERIOUS effects on us... a simple frequency change forced on us can cause unknown effects. It's not hard to perceive that interferrance can occur to the various nerves and such.

I know 2 people that can't be in florecent lighting or else they get skin irritation, one of which gets sevear burns if around them for to long. This make it extremely difficult for him to go into most buildings due to it.

They've also demonstrated in a vacumm that dna went blasted with various forms of radio frequencies and light energy will greatly effect it either enhancing it's structure or completely destroying it to the point of near unrecoverability.

We are being bombarded by various levels of radio/light energy, from the satalites up in space right down to the cell towers to the simple little remote controls that we have... not to mention radar and such.

BlueMak · Jun 8, 2009, 07:47 PM

Judas, our very own National Enquirer.

charm_quark · Jun 8, 2009, 07:49 PM

truth be told any form of electronic device, has some sort of radiation (however very minute is nature) over long periods of use yes they can effect us, or if one is over-sensitive, is it is possible... but the first post (lost interest after that), i don't really thing so,....

Mac Daddy · Jun 9, 2009, 01:03 AM

Any device that transmits or receives radiates some sort of radiation. I have been installing Bluetooth adapters and amplifiers for air cards for the last couple of years though and haven't had any of these symptoms

Judas · Jun 9, 2009, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac Daddy

Any device that transmits or receives radiates some sort of radiation. I have been installing Bluetooth adapters and amplifiers for air cards for the last couple of years though and haven't had any of these symptoms

that we are apparently aware of

Mac Daddy · Jun 9, 2009, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

that we are apparently aware of

Can you see my left eye twitching

Judas · Jun 9, 2009, 05:51 AM

no... but i assume it may be?

OldBuzzard · Jun 9, 2009, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zardon

... I own four macs after all.

Is the like admitting that you have a 'Crazy Uncle"?

[hobo]eclipse · Jun 9, 2009, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldBuzzard

Is the like admitting that you have a 'Crazy Uncle"?

haha

i like one of the comments there,

Quote:

"evolve or die"

Tril · Jun 9, 2009, 08:17 AM

About his story Bluetooth story, maybe his milk in his morning cereals was not fresh. That would explain the stomach ache.

Some people are allergic to zinc, a metal sometimes used on the surface of cellphones. Maybe that's what he has, some form of allergy with some material that happens to be present on some wireless products he used.

A study shows that cell phone could trigger allergic reactions. They talk about "electromagnetic hypersensitivity" and it looks like it's real. some of the symptoms match what the poster reported.
Cell Phone Radiation And Health

Zardon · Jun 9, 2009, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldBuzzard

Is the like admitting that you have a 'Crazy Uncle"?

Yeah he plays battlezone too !

comp_ali · Jun 9, 2009, 10:13 AM

About the original story , There must be something wrong with writer , we live between thousands of electric and magnetic harmonics but there is a safe limit that won't affect the human unless been exposed for it for a long and continuous time. So don''t sit under your wifi router while waiting your meal in the microwave , your mobile bluetooth on , playing with Microsoft Natal and say I don't

feel so good.

Another confusing thing : I used to put my cell phone in shirt then I heard its radiation will affect the heart pulse so I put it in my trousers but I heard it causes sterility so I decided not to listen to any of this BS again

[hobo]eclipse · Jun 9, 2009, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zardon

Yeah he plays battlezone too !

bwhahaha!

IvanV · Jun 9, 2009, 03:36 PM

I've actually experienced a slight tingling sensation after holding a mobile phone in my hand for a prolonged period of time, though I never decided whether it was all in my hand or for real (I'm not having it anymore, though, possibly in part because I hardly use my mobile, except for a brief conversation or an SMS; also the Siemens C60 and Motorola V980 I used to have both had above average SAR levels).

I also seem to hear a quiet tweeting in my ears if I happen to have a long conversation over the mobile phone. A friend of mine says that he's experienced the same thing with his cordless (landline) telephone, albeit after significantly longer conversations.

I've no experience with bluetooth, but I remember hearing and reading in several places that using hands-free to lower the amount of radiation absorbed by the brain is actually counter productive (though not that it's actually harmful).

Getting a definite answer on questions like this takes a few decades, just like we now know that first generation of mobile phones did in fact increase probability of getting a brain tumor. The current technology just hasn't been in use long enough for the consequences to emerge, or for us to be able to say that there aren't any. What we do know is that current generation of cell phones emits much lower radiation levels than the first generation ones, but that doesn't necessarily make it harmless, especially since modern usage pattern is much different (more intensive) than the old one.

Tyrsonswood · Jun 9, 2009, 06:21 PM

True.....

We used leaded pewter drinking cups and lead pipes for water for how long before it was determined that lead was dangerous?

You can say it's safe to use cell phones, but nobody really knows yet what it can do over a long time........ we haven't had them long enough yet to know anything.

Jun 8, 2009, 01:50 PM	#1
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Bluetooth - causing DNA and nerve damage? I was hunting around on google for something else and I stumbled upon this thread which fascinated me so much I just had to post it. Check this out. Apple - Support - Discussions - Bluetooth & AirPort -- DNA or Nerve ...

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Mousey Synth's Long Lost Bro Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Web Design Hell Posts: 7,189 Rep Power: 245 System Specs	Re: Bluetooth - causing DNA and nerve damage? To be honest i seriously doubt it, if it was true it would get to the point of "He's sending a file through bluetooth, take him down!" ect. The symptons the guy's posted about on there are similair to the ones i get when i suffer cluster headaches, perhaps he needs to spend less time on the phone and more time just mellowin' out __________________

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mkk Cthulhu/Dagon 2012 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gefle, Sweden Posts: 4,495 Rep Power: 132 System Specs	Re: Bluetooth - causing DNA and nerve damage? I don't doubt that people can get hypersensitive to various kinds of electromagnetic forces. In an urban environment however there is so much energy in the air already to make me sceptical of what difference that a single off-skin Bluetooth device could make.

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BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,474 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	Re: Bluetooth - causing DNA and nerve damage? I skimmed through the first post. It sounds like he is having or about to have a heart attack. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

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BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,474 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	Re: Bluetooth - causing DNA and nerve damage? Judas, our very own National Enquirer. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

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Tril S-3D enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,676 Rep Power: 64 System Specs	Re: Bluetooth - causing DNA and nerve damage? About his story Bluetooth story, maybe his milk in his morning cereals was not fresh. That would explain the stomach ache. Some people are allergic to zinc, a metal sometimes used on the surface of cellphones. Maybe that's what he has, some form of allergy with some material that happens to be present on some wireless products he used. A study shows that cell phone could trigger allergic reactions. They talk about "electromagnetic hypersensitivity" and it looks like it's real. some of the symptoms match what the poster reported. Cell Phone Radiation And Health

Jun 9, 2009, 10:13 AM	#22
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 10,469 Rep Power: 339 System Specs	Re: Bluetooth - causing DNA and nerve damage? About the original story , There must be something wrong with writer , we live between thousands of electric and magnetic harmonics but there is a safe limit that won't affect the human unless been exposed for it for a long and continuous time. So don''t sit under your wifi router while waiting your meal in the microwave , your mobile bluetooth on , playing with Microsoft Natal and say I don't feel so good. Another confusing thing : I used to put my cell phone in shirt then I heard its radiation will affect the heart pulse so I put it in my trousers but I heard it causes sterility so I decided not to listen to any of this BS again __________________

Jun 9, 2009, 03:36 PM	#24
IvanV HH Assassin Guild Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,917 Rep Power: 336 System Specs	Re: Bluetooth - causing DNA and nerve damage? I've actually experienced a slight tingling sensation after holding a mobile phone in my hand for a prolonged period of time, though I never decided whether it was all in my hand or for real (I'm not having it anymore, though, possibly in part because I hardly use my mobile, except for a brief conversation or an SMS; also the Siemens C60 and Motorola V980 I used to have both had above average SAR levels). I also seem to hear a quiet tweeting in my ears if I happen to have a long conversation over the mobile phone. A friend of mine says that he's experienced the same thing with his cordless (landline) telephone, albeit after significantly longer conversations. I've no experience with bluetooth, but I remember hearing and reading in several places that using hands-free to lower the amount of radiation absorbed by the brain is actually counter productive (though not that it's actually harmful). Getting a definite answer on questions like this takes a few decades, just like we now know that first generation of mobile phones did in fact increase probability of getting a brain tumor. The current technology just hasn't been in use long enough for the consequences to emerge, or for us to be able to say that there aren't any. What we do know is that current generation of cell phones emits much lower radiation levels than the first generation ones, but that doesn't necessarily make it harmless, especially since modern usage pattern is much different (more intensive) than the old one. __________________ If anyone has Portal 2 and hasn't played the co-op and wants to do me a favour, let me know (PM me or whatever).