[comp_ali]

I was wondering about H1N1 and is it really that dangerous on human being? And if this virus was originally produced at some test laps ? I don't know the real and the accurate infos about this disease. I came through out some of the articles that show something different from what we are supposed to know.

Alex Jones’ Prison Planet.com David Icke: ‘Don’t Take The Swine Flu Vaccine’
Video: Nutrimedical Report – Don’t Take Swine Flu Virus! Dprogram.net
BAXTER LABS makes 158 POUNDS OF PURE POISON VACCINE & SENDS IT OUT TO ALL EUROPEAN COUNTRIES

And yes I am not sure how accurate these articles are ? but I don't trust world media either ? Can you share your views about this disease and what do you think it is right ?

[Judas]

bullshit....

straight up... more people are feeling sick due to the "vacine" rather then contracting any sort of illness that resembles it..

[Mousey]

Here in the UK It's been nothing but "Swine Flu" all over the news, pure horse shit.
It's regular flu the labour party over here are hamming up BIG time to try and gain more votes. Apparently we wouldn't have a vaccine for it in the UK before 2010, then what a coincidence a month later there's a vaccine available?

Does nobody smell "Oh look the labour party, we're awesome we got the vaccine out please vote for our dying party!" because i can smell it a mile off.

[comp_ali]

I agree it is overestimated , you know who are the biggest beneficial , I think they are the pharmaceutical companies that sells like hell in theses circumstances.

[mkk]

Look at some more of Alex Jones' material and you'll realise he's a nutty liar. Anyway sure it's arguable whether it's a good thing to innoculate a large part of the population just because you can, like how here in Sweden we(health department) have bought up juice to cover basically everyone over a period of time. Many won't take it but now that it will be freely available to every citizen I will. If there was a real problem with the vaccine then many more doctors or scientists(real ones) would speak up against it. Sure it has a form of mercury in it, but anyone in Europe eating in-sea fish gets a lot of more dangerous forms so it doesn't add up to much with or without the vaccine. I doubt that it was a good trade to spend so much money on getting the vaccine for everyone compared to putting it elsewhere, but there's a lot about the current government that I don't agree with. Even so I don't worry about the mind control bit.

Now about the crowd at least around here in Sweden they are as usual not very used to serious thinking. Many reason like now that the virus doesn't appear to spread so quickly right now that they might as well choose not to get the vaccine because of that. But if there was a new "wave" tomorrow then 50% of them would come running for it.

It could be fun if it wasn't so that they made decisions concerning their children in the same way. The younger you are the better it's for you to take it, as you don't have protection against similar virus strains in your body like some seniors do, and when this or other viruses change in to more or less dissimilar strains the vaccine will still help to some degree with those as well. What's unusual this time is that perfetctly healthy and strong young people can get hit so much harder than with a typical flu, where in turn mostly the already sick or very old are in any real danger. Now I'm 35, healthy and has had a number of flu's over the years so I'm probably not in any significant risk zone, but as I work in a shop I could pass it on to others that are less fortunate. I also travel a lot by bus, which almost guarantees that I will get it at some point, lol.

[Judas]

While granted Alex Jones does come across as a crazy lunitic....

Calling him an outright liar is a bit of a fowl, considering what has been stated by him, then pulling up documents that clearly back what he has stated, and then further watching precisely what he's stated to actually unfold weeks/months/years later deserves some consideration.

But whatever, it always seems to typically work out that many people are like the poor one named "cassandra" whom told the truth and was never beleived.

[Dude111]

Originally Posted by Judas

straight up... more people are feeling sick due to the "vacine" rather then contracting any sort of illness that resembles it..

Exactly indeed!

People should be suspicious that they are pushing this SO HARD!!

This vaccine is "free" .. Hey,NOTHING IN THIS WORLD IS "FREE" THAT IS ANY GOOD BELIEVE ME!! (Usually always a catch)

[Tyrsonswood]

H1N1 is manufactured, there's no way all those bits of various different viruses could come together naturally. H1N1 is a human/swine/bird flu mixture, more than likely genetically modified...... I wonder if Monsanto has submitted for a patent yet?

The vaccine? Well, it's made from live virus and I'm sure it has mercury in it along with some other nice stuff, so Yeah! It's perfectly safe You know that vaccines don't go through the same clinical testing other drugs do........ Here in the US the FDA approved this vaccine about 2 weeks after the first test shots were given.... That was the test, 5000 people got shots, none of them died within 2 weeks so it's safe.


Everybody make sure you line up and get those shots now, Okay?

[Falstaff]

without perpetuating further discourse about influenza, yes it is dangerous, it can kill and Swine flu is a strain of it. Just as bird flu was or swine, etc.
The elderly, immune comprimized and very young folks can suffer a great deal more than others.
I worked at Lakenheath and we had several hundred confirmed cases of swine flue and even greater number other kinds of flu that could be considered benign or dangerous depending on the age of the patient.
There is a great deal of Hoopla and spin about vaccines and the flu, but when it comes to herd medicine, the governments all over the world dont want to mess around.
Its the lost hours at work, loss of productivity, medical costs, over crowded hospitals, etc.
Swine flu is very real and I wont bore you with how a retrovirus multiplies, suffice to say, some strains of virae are more virulent and can spread easily causing widespread misery.
H1N1 or H5N1, its all the same to me, unless proven otherwise.
Have I been vaccinated, hell yes.
If you think you have the symptoms then stay home and take a paracetimol and drink fluids, and perhaps you will feel better soon.
I understand the anxiety surrounding the flu, it killed lots of folks only a little less than a hundred years ago.

[CitySlicker]

I only can concur swine flu hysteria is nothing more than a cheap media stunt. It's not more dangerous than any other flu.

If you would believe media I wonder how mankind could survive this long without being extinct already. Our media has become cheap BS sensationalism.

[Falstaff]

People complain about the UK media but the US media is just as bad.
I work with providers that treat people with the flu and unless they are suffering already
we send them home unless they are dehydrated or need something to help with the fever or aches and pains.
What next?
cat flu or dog flu..
gimme a break....

[Tyrsonswood]

There already are cat and dog flu.... people just don't catch them.

[CitySlicker]

we got a serious case of fly cough here

[Cow_160483]

I think this H1N1 is probably just another stunt by the pharmaceutical companies to sell their drugs (vaccines) whatever you want to call it to the public... in today's society there is nothing for "FREE" the government will pay for the vaccine and then get their money from you through taxes

Here in Botswana we have had around 10-20 confirmed cases and not a single person died ....

[Tyrsonswood]

Originally Posted by Cow_160483

Here in Botswana we have had around 10-20 confirmed cases and not a single person died ....

But they now have an uncontrollable urge to roll around in the mud and eat garbage......

[SeraphicSorcerer]

The real flu kills more people ina year then swine flu.

Human beings are going to be wiped out as a species for one simple fact everyone seems to overlook. We've become a virus/bacteria fearing society, everything is anti-bacterial/viral/fungal.

Our immune systems NEED SHIT LIKE THIS TO FIGHT OFF. Once our bodies develop appropriate anti-bodies, That shit is RECORDED IN YOUR GENES. READ: you pass that information down to future generations. Having a non-tested immune system is like having a gun jam when you need it most.

[Mousey]

Originally Posted by CitySlicker

we got a serious case of fly cough here

You think fly cough's bad? Try having moth cough *goes to hump a light*

[Tyrsonswood]

Mousey, turn OFF the lamp already!

[Falstaff]

Originally Posted by Cow_160483

I think this H1N1 is probably just another stunt by the pharmaceutical companies to sell their drugs (vaccines) whatever you want to call it to the public... in today's society there is nothing for "FREE" the government will pay for the vaccine and then get their money from you through taxes

Here in Botswana we have had around 10-20 confirmed cases and not a single person died ....

Influenza is real Cow, and yes drug companies make a mint on selling their products.
you cant deny that people rely on immunizations, medications and wonder drugs to do almost everything in their lives now.
sad but true

[Mousey]

Originally Posted by Tyrsonswood

Mousey, turn OFF the lamp already!

I can't, this moth cough is screwing with my brain. Which in turn is making me screw with the light

[Cow_160483]

Originally Posted by Falstaff

Influenza is real Cow, and yes drug companies make a mint on selling their products.
you cant deny that people rely on immunizations, medications and wonder drugs to do almost everything in their lives now.
sad but true

Ya probably the flue is real but how much do you want to bet that it was developed in a lab somewhere and they had the vaccine all along ... they where just waiting for the price to increase

[dawgXdenta]

Its a sounds a little too good to be true that the worlds terrorsists warmongers and hardened criminals of the cooperate world should work the hardest to push this Flu thing .And all of a sudden develop a change of heart and goodwill towards humanity.
As far as In can remember there has never been one story in the media that hasnt been to push western idealism(heartless profits are GOD to us all , AT ANY COST and incase you want to start doubting here is FAKE religion and DUM entertainment to NUMB YOU DOWN, with a touch of Bin Laden to scare you into conforming )
I'll trust my doctor and we'll see what happens but the way this flu thing has been done seems more than a little fishy.

[ET3D]

I'm sure there's some truth to the danger, but the media is blowing it out of proportion. I'm also sure that after everyone is vaccinated and the disease more or less dies everyone will start harping on how it wasn't a threat.

Reminds me of the Y2K threat. It was made into a real scare, and later everyone said how it was nothing. But it only turned out to be so insignificant because many of us spent a lot of time fixing software to make sure it worked.

[dawgXdenta]

Originally Posted by ET3D

I'm sure there's some truth to the danger, but the media is blowing it out of proportion. I'm also sure that after everyone is vaccinated and the disease more or less dies everyone will start harping on how it wasn't a threat.

Reminds me of the Y2K threat. It was made into a real scare, and later everyone said how it was nothing. But it only turned out to be so insignificant because many of us spent a lot of time fixing software to make sure it worked.

Yeah and how much money did people make from that change from a 999 to a 000

[Tinkerhell]

Originally Posted by SeraphicSorcerer

The real flu kills more people in a year than swine flu.

Human beings are going to be wiped out as a species for one simple fact everyone seems to overlook. We've become a virus/bacteria fearing society, everything is anti-bacterial/viral/fungal.

Our immune systems NEED SHIT LIKE THIS TO FIGHT OFF. Once our bodies develop appropriate anti-bodies, That shit is RECORDED IN YOUR GENES. READ: you pass that information down to future generations. Having a non-tested immune system is like having a gun jam when you need it most.

This is my exact feelings on the matter. It's just another flu and the more crap you take to be "immune" to it, the weaker your immune system gets.

I had one hell of a time trying to decide if my new born son should get all the immunizations that are "normal" here in the States for him to be able to go to school ect ect. I spent days & days on the net doing research. For every article or source I found that said to give the shots, I found one that said don't. Some were legit some were paranoid tripe. I ended up giving up and just took the pediatricians advice - give the shots. He gave to his son. He's a nice guy that I like for what I know of him. Has my boy had any problems? Not a one. Greatest kid in the world. After more thought and further pondering if I had it to do over he wouldn't get any of the shots until he absolutely had to (like when he's 3 or 4).
Is he or anyone else in my family getting the H1N1 shot. Hell no. I don't get any other flu shots either these days. In past years I have. The result has always been about the same for me. I catch some version of the flu or a cold a couple times a year. I've never seen a difference one way or the other. I believe in the "why take anything if you don't have to" theory.

Another quote that needs to be in this thread "That which doesn't kill us makes us stronger"...

[Judas]

Originally Posted by Tyrsonswood

H1N1 is manufactured, there's no way all those bits of various different viruses could come together naturally. H1N1 is a human/swine/bird flu mixture, more than likely genetically modified...... I wonder if Monsanto has submitted for a patent yet?

This is documented to be the case... same with anthrax in the form that was used as a scare tactic back in 2001/2002

The vaccine? Well, it's made from live virus and I'm sure it has mercury in it along with some other nice stuff, so Yeah! It's perfectly safe You know that vaccines don't go through the same clinical testing other drugs do........ Here in the US the FDA approved this vaccine about 2 weeks after the first test shots were given.... That was the test, 5000 people got shots, none of them died within 2 weeks so it's safe.

This is also admited and documented as being accurate. They've clearly stated several times that many vacines still contains high concentrations of mercury, values that exceed what has been determined as safe value. Top it off with the clear disreguard for the studies done by private firms and outside of the government or pharmacies. There is considerable concern for it.

There is now evidence to suggest that many of the vaccines that are distributed or flu shots have a better chance of disrupting or throwing ones own immune system out of balance. Studies are starting to show up where forcing a dead or live or various states of varioues cold viruses are resulting in lower white blood cell counts and poor imune system controls and abilities. Essentially our bodies are now getting to the point being babied with already dead specimens or modified ones that majority of people are more prone to getting sicker then a dog with very simple and typically unthreatning viruses/colds. Our bodies were never ment to get these injections in this way. The preventitive measures being taken are actually introducing far riskier results. Only under life threatning conditions that are already playing out show we be getting these shots, otherwise our imune system should do as much work as it can on it's own.


They are even tabling the idea of forced vaccinations. This is a crock of shit no matter how much the media and other polical figures want to spin it, it's against the consitution, it's against our free will, and NO there shouldn't be a need for quaratine spots IF one remains in ones own house. Obviously there will be idiots... but they've made the suggestion of lockdowns.

Worse yet is they've made it clear that they will get our own counties military involved. Which just goes to show that they are willing to use them against the very thing they had sworn to uphold for an oath.

[Judas]

[CitySlicker]

Mercury?
what a nice poison and the body can do nothing about getting rid of it - it remains in your body for the rest of the life.

The vaccine is made from chickin embryos when I believe our printed press - how comes mercury into that stuff?

[Judas]

they've been using mercury as a base as it has it's properties that "helps" they have said....

actually the swine flu vaccine comes in tons of different forms.. and different methods/designs that aren't well tested

[Tyrsonswood]

The mercury is used as a preservative