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Old Jan 11, 2010, 08:05 PM   #1
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Windows 7 misconceptions

windows 7 is great, better than vista but if I wasn't a technical person or was a regular person who was happy with vista, I definitely wouldn't upgrade right away. Recently, a lot of lame misconceptions are in the marketplace which I find are making customers desire windows 7 (not at all saying its bad, and it is worth the money).

- Windows 7 is based off of XP, that's why it so good. When I tell a customer its based off of Vista more than anything, they try to debate it!

-Reviewers state windows 7 is sufficient for netbooks, but it still is really slow. It's probably still better to stick to XP for a netbook since these users don't really need much out of the software yet. By next year, I think home premium should run fine

-The misconception that all old hardware will work fine, especially the stuff that worked on xp and not on Vista.

-Since vista was so different, upgrading from XP is even easier....the truth its not even possible!

-Wow the interface and special effects are amazing! Vista never had it....and its the same Aero from Vista

I like 7, but its not god's send like the media is making it out to be! (except the wireless network, god I love it). What misconceptions do you hear or see from people you know or average users?
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Old Jan 11, 2010, 08:45 PM   #2
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- Windows 7 is based off of XP, that's why it so good. ...
Do you know what you just did to my blood pressure?!

I don't know really, I haven't talked to people about 7 very much. Still, here's a "good tip" I recently read on the web-site of one of the most renown Serbian (mainstream) media outlets: If you're using Windows XP or Vista (and 7 is yet to prove itself in this matter, they say) and you have a dual or multi-core CPU, if you want to use your CPU's real potential, you have to set CPU affinity manually, because Windows doesn't know crap about multi-core chips and resource management.
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Re: Windows 7 misconceptions

Put it this way Pimpsta, If the press aren't shamelessly slamming it like they were with Vista, then i'd just let them do it and leave it that way. Then we have less close minded retards that just say it sucks without even trying it.
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-Reviewers state windows 7 is sufficient for netbooks, but it still is really slow. It's probably still better to stick to XP for a netbook since these users don't really need much out of the software yet. By next year, I think home premium should run fine ...
Sorry, but WIN 7 IS sufficient for netbooks.

My Asus eee900 runs better and FASTER with Win 7 on it than it did with the original XP.
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wait wait , who said 7 is based on XP , I basically think that 7 is Vista upgrade.
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Re: Windows 7 misconceptions

I hear you, BBP. Lots of people (customers are people after all) have gotten the impression that Win7 is something completely new and act surprised when they hear it's really an improved Vista. I swear half of the ones I've talked to were hoping that it would also look exactly like WinXP so they wouldn't have to learn anything new, just magically work better under the hood. If it's 90% like Vista, how can it be any good?
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wait wait , who said 7 is based on XP , I basically think that 7 is Vista upgrade.
It is. It's Vista Second Edition
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Sorry, but WIN 7 IS sufficient for netbooks.

My Asus eee900 runs better and FASTER with Win 7 on it than it did with the original XP.
I used it on the HP 110, and then a Compaq 110 (same exact laptop). The 7 laptop lags noticeably more. I don't really count windows 7 starter windows 7 really, home premium and above is the real shit

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It is. It's Vista Second Edition
Funny when 98 came out, "ohhhh man it sucks, it crashes" 98 SE which is basically a service pack public goes "ohhhhh man its awesome" It's the same damn thing, with a service pack.

XP comes out "ew, I'm upgrading to windows 2000 uses less ram"

Vista comes out "Omfg my computer is so slow I'm launching a lawsuit! I take spyware and lack of security over performance."

7 comes out the reception is good...but look at it now all the computers that are being built today. They run windows aero with little difficulty, 7 isn't that different with aero. To me, 7 is just Vista more broken in which is great for buyers. But god damn media creating misconceptions! Vista though is the only OS I can go back to and live for now. Anyways, as long as it silences Apple users with that smug look on their face (nothing against Apple, just Mac nerds.)
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put windows 7 on a four year old lappy and it ran just fine.....
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Re: Windows 7 misconceptions

[QUOTE=BiGBrOwNPimpsta;1334070]I used it on the HP 110, and then a Compaq 110 (same exact laptop). The 7 laptop lags noticeably more. I don't really count windows 7 starter windows 7 really, home premium and above is the real shit .../QUOTE]

I have home premium on the eee900. Granted, I did replace the original 1GB RAM with 2GB, but I did that before I installed 7, and ran XP on it with 2GB and 7 still outperforms XP on the eee900.
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I used it on the HP 110, and then a Compaq 110 (same exact laptop). The 7 laptop lags noticeably more. I don't really count windows 7 starter windows 7 really, home premium and above is the real shit .../QUOTE]

I have home premium on the eee900. Granted, I did replace the original 1GB RAM with 2GB, but I did that before I installed 7, and ran XP on it with 2GB and 7 still outperforms XP on the eee900.
THATS WHY! 2gb needed! I wouldn't dare run vista on a netbook, I've seen it and the outcome isnt good.
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FYI,

no machine with less then 2gb of ram EVEN with windows XP runs 100%

And another thing... don't bother with the acer/compaq/hp/etc. and so forth TERRIBLE netbooks. The only netbook i sell is the Asus models, and every single one of them runs win7/vista faster overall then xp.... and of course win7 is even more beautifully handled then vista.

Those other netbooks simply suck balls, are dirt cheap hunks of garbare rolled up in cheap plastic and those companies are making a massive profit off them as i said, they are made of junk. I can pick up a hunk of shit Acer Netbook for 149.99, they "claim" 1 year warranty but shit, the suckers gonna fail just shortly after. They are throw away models, buy em, they quit, huck em. Real asus netbook have true value.


Now is VISTA the cats meow? I don't know, i'm still getting some reports from various users that Since the latest official release of win7 launched, machines while using IE8 and Flash pages either are causing IE8 lockups or if the machine appears to be working well, the entire machine locks SOLID if a flash video or flash ad is left up (or even minimized) on the bar.

Frankly i've never had an issue or crash in any form on vista, and i never had a problem in win7 before it went gold. So technically speaking, so far Vista's had a smoother launch then win7.

I LOL when people think XP had really anything to do with win7......

I haven't sold a single computer/device without a minimum of 2gb of ram for 2+ years. I won't do it. I've been getting laptops in, some of which have come with 512 or 1gb ram, and emediately replacing it with a single 2gb dimm at no extra cost to the customer which emediately grants them the ability to jam more then 2gb of ram in the future without having to buy 2x sticks to do it.
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Re: Windows 7 misconceptions

Windows 7 does seem like Vista SP3 to me.

I'm sticking with Vista for now, simply becuase everything is working so well for me at the moment that spending money on a new OS seems like a total waste.

It does annoy me thought with the massive Windows 7 excitement from the people who shunned Vista for being not enough like XP only a few years ago.
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