T3 or Matrix 2

Zardon · Jul 14, 2003, 01:24 PM

I didnt like the Matrix2 at all, apart from some nice visual effects overall I thought it sucked pretty hard. Keano reeves, urghh.

on the other hand I thoroughly enjoyed T3 with big arnie back in good form, I would even go as far to say he is a better actor than keano reeves ! (hard to rate crap isnt it

)

Anyway not only did I think the script of T3 was better and more coherent, I also enjoyed the Tx alot with her cool weapons and delicious bod.

Tell me your views, im sure alot of you will tell me im talking crap, so lets hear !

Dom · Jul 14, 2003, 01:35 PM

Lets see...

The Matrix Reloaded or T3: Rise of the Machines.

"Whoa." or "I'll be back.".

...I choose T3.

tek · Jul 14, 2003, 01:41 PM

-T3
"She'll be back"
"RELAX!!"
"Talk to the hand"

-Matrix2
"................"

TERMINATOR3 ALL THE WAY BABY

Asmoday · Jul 14, 2003, 01:43 PM

I think both of them were disapointments.....but if i have to choose one...i must say T3...

Falstaff · Jul 14, 2003, 01:57 PM

but I enjoyed Kristanna Loken.....or the actress that portrayed her as the stunt butt

NaumoJR · Jul 14, 2003, 03:17 PM

Both were great, but I gave the Matrix my vote because it had a better story. T3 was just more of the same really... There is nothing wrong with that, it's just that Reloaded deepened the plot of the Matrix...

ZzzombieBunny · Jul 14, 2003, 03:21 PM

On a sidenote I gotta say the fight scene with Neo vs Mr Smith(s) was prolly one of the best fights scenes ive seen... Keanu might not be oscar material actor, but damn, he had to memorize some 500+ moves for that scene... 500!? I have trouble just to bend down and touch my feet....

dipstick · Jul 14, 2003, 03:22 PM

Arnold is the freakin man!
I still can't believe how good this guy looks for his age. He's simply amazing

T3 all the way!!!

GravY · Jul 14, 2003, 06:44 PM

T-3 was more of a suprise to me, as it was actually pretty damn good..

Matrix on the other hand kinda let me down.. what really killed me was using too much CG in the fight scenes, it was just over done.. Neo fighting all the Agent Smiths for example..
also there seemed to be a lack of style with Reloaded, I think that comes into play with Neo always fighting more than 1 of something.. in the original Matrix you had the style of two fighters going at it, in Reloaded your blitzed with a whole bunch of guys or things going on and it lost site of what made the Matrix so awesome.. did that make sense.. ?

JavaFox · Jul 14, 2003, 08:30 PM

Haven't seen T-3 yet (I'm not in the US, give me a break!), but I enjoyed X-2 more than Matrix.

Zardon · Jul 15, 2003, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GravY
T-3 was more of a suprise to me, as it was actually pretty damn good..

Matrix on the other hand kinda let me down.. what really killed me was using too much CG in the fight scenes, it was just over done.. Neo fighting all the Agent Smiths for example..
also there seemed to be a lack of style with Reloaded, I think that comes into play with Neo always fighting more than 1 of something.. in the original Matrix you had the style of two fighters going at it, in Reloaded your blitzed with a whole bunch of guys or things going on and it lost site of what made the Matrix so awesome.. did that make sense.. ?

very well said.

Judas · Jul 15, 2003, 01:00 AM

Meh, i'm not sure yet.... i liked matrix reloaded because of the Super CG that they ended up doing.... i don't just see a movie, i'm considering what work they put into it... and considering that they made the ENTIRE multi smith fighting part from computers.... it's pretty damn good... still a little work to be done... Almost everyone that saw it thought they had actually filmed them doing all that... after say "Nope, it's all computer... even the actors".... they sorta sat back and had to think.....

brc64 · Jul 15, 2003, 01:08 AM

I voted on Matrix 2, but I wasn't too thrilled with either of them (I didn't think they sucked, though). I've seen many movies this year, but I haven't really, really liked anything since X2. That and Bruce Almighty. Those two movies I really felt that I got my money's worth out of.

- Me

NaumoJR · Jul 15, 2003, 01:26 AM

Reloaded seemed rushed, T3 had a better pace.

No_Style · Jul 15, 2003, 02:10 AM

Why isn't there a BOTH liked equally option?! Cuz I enjoyed both~

ryanraab · Jul 15, 2003, 02:15 AM

T1 all they way then goes T2 then t3 then matrix 1 then matrix 2 and don't know about m3 though

NaumoJR · Jul 15, 2003, 05:11 AM

T2, T1, T3... in that order.

Shadow Lady · Jul 15, 2003, 05:19 AM

good, then Im not alone sayin Matrix: Reloaded sucked ^^ itreally wasnt what I was expecting, too much action, too much effects, nothing of history, I guess Matrix: Revolutions will be all Story and amazing turns ^^ ohh well, T3 on the other hand was exactly as expected, except for the final

and was very... very short

ohh well, my vote was for T3 but I think you should have included Xmen 2 in this even when it was a long time ago, and what about the upcoming BadBoys 2, I want to c it and I think it will be better than anyt others 'till now

NaumoJR · Jul 15, 2003, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shadow Lady
good, then Im not alone sayin Matrix: Reloaded sucked ^^ itreally wasnt what I was expecting, too much action, too much effects, nothing of history, I guess Matrix: Revolutions will be all Story and amazing turns ^^ ohh well, T3 on the other hand was exactly as expected, except for the final and was very... very short ohh well, my vote was for T3 but I think you should have included Xmen 2 in this even when it was a long time ago, and what about the upcoming BadBoys 2, I want to c it and I think it will be better than anyt others 'till now

T3 was WAY too short.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jul 15, 2003, 09:14 AM

t3 to short .. left some confusion if you didnt put the pices togreather some stuff didn't make alot of since... some stuff they messed up on

matrix

Zardon · Jul 15, 2003, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fallang_jeff
but I enjoyed Kristanna Loken.....or the actress that portrayed her as the stunt butt

actually im pretty certain that stunt butt was all her own, she is an ex porn star, right?

ZzzombieBunny · Jul 15, 2003, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
actually im pretty certain that stunt butt was all her own, she is an ex porn star, right?

Unless your trying to be funny... I think they call them models nowdays...

Zardon · Jul 15, 2003, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZzzombieBunny
Unless your trying to be funny... I think they call them models nowdays...

They call porn stars models? they call them slappers or sluts here.

Asmoday · Jul 15, 2003, 03:15 PM

Dunno if she ever been in a porn-flick....but she has had roles in other 'normal' movies and tv-shows though..

http://www.kristanna.com/

Zardon · Jul 15, 2003, 03:24 PM

I was almost sure I read articles about her before she was famous being in porn films, hey I could be wrong !

evergreen · Jul 15, 2003, 04:08 PM

I enjoyed them both. I used to be a tougher critic, but my step-son works at the theater and movies are free! T3 was good; my wife (who usually does not like movies that I love/like) even liked it.
Yes, the TX model was nice! Never heard of porn stars called models??? I bet it was her ass on film--aftering viewing her website, I doubt that she would be too hesitant to show it.
Do you think that there will be a T4?

T1 the best, then T2, then T3.

I think my favorite scene is when Arnold takes out the police station in T1...

GravY · Jul 15, 2003, 04:13 PM

you guys are nuts.. T-2/T-1/T-3 .. T-2 was a much better movie all around.. Kinda like Cameron and Aliens..

evergreen · Jul 15, 2003, 04:21 PM

http://www.killermovies.com/t/termin...cles/3150.html

"The big question is we know terminators time travel in the nude, so how did you feel about your first nude scene?
Well, it isn’t my first, but it was the last night, very last night of filming. It was originally supposed to be the first night but with location problems, whatever, ended up being the last night. I was glad that it was because I was really able to fine tune my body in the way that I wanted it to look. I did extensive training and through that worked with a nutritionist so I put on about 15 pounds of muscle mass. I actually was a lot bigger than I am now. So, I felt okay about it."

evergreen · Jul 16, 2003, 04:44 PM

T1 and T2 are definitely close in my ranking, but T1 made the first impression on me and they say, "the first impression is a lasting impression..."

Jeff · Jul 16, 2003, 07:33 PM

Yeah, I actually saw T2 before T1, so I think T2 is the best, however, I feel they are all pretty close in overall quality. I liked them all about equally.

Jul 14, 2003, 01:24 PM	#1
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	T3 or Matrix 2 I didnt like the Matrix2 at all, apart from some nice visual effects overall I thought it sucked pretty hard. Keano reeves, urghh. on the other hand I thoroughly enjoyed T3 with big arnie back in good form, I would even go as far to say he is a better actor than keano reeves ! (hard to rate crap isnt it ) Anyway not only did I think the script of T3 was better and more coherent, I also enjoyed the Tx alot with her cool weapons and delicious bod. Tell me your views, im sure alot of you will tell me im talking crap, so lets hear !

Jul 14, 2003, 01:41 PM	#3
tek DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, US Posts: 2,103 Rep Power: 0	-T3 "She'll be back" "RELAX!!" "Talk to the hand" -Matrix2 "................" TERMINATOR3 ALL THE WAY BABY __________________ [COLOR=White][/COLOR]

Jul 14, 2003, 01:43 PM	#4
Asmoday Demonic Join Date: May 2002 Location: In the cold, dark north... Posts: 5,198 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	I think both of them were disapointments.....but if i have to choose one...i must say T3... __________________ How You can help Hardwareheaven by using Digg

Jul 14, 2003, 01:57 PM	#5
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,047 Rep Power: 206	both were disappointing but I enjoyed Kristanna Loken.....or the actress that portrayed her as the stunt butt __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jul 14, 2003, 06:44 PM	#9
GravY Master Shake Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 199 Rep Power: 0	T-3 was more of a suprise to me, as it was actually pretty damn good.. Matrix on the other hand kinda let me down.. what really killed me was using too much CG in the fight scenes, it was just over done.. Neo fighting all the Agent Smiths for example.. also there seemed to be a lack of style with Reloaded, I think that comes into play with Neo always fighting more than 1 of something.. in the original Matrix you had the style of two fighters going at it, in Reloaded your blitzed with a whole bunch of guys or things going on and it lost site of what made the Matrix so awesome.. did that make sense.. ? __________________ Amd 2400+ @ 2415mhz 11.5x210, Vantec Aeroflow, 512mb Pc3200 5-2-2-2, 9500np->9700 [color=red]17697[/color] 3dmark2k1 [color=red]5630[/color] 3dmark03, Epox 8rda+ Mobo, WD Special 8mb cache 80gig, Plex 48/24/48

Jul 14, 2003, 01:35 PM	#2
Dom DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,940 Rep Power: 0	Lets see... The Matrix Reloaded or T3: Rise of the Machines. "Whoa." or "I'll be back.". ...I choose T3.

Jul 14, 2003, 03:17 PM	#6
NaumoJR Paranoid Android Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Planet Telex Posts: 1,029 Rep Power: 0	Both were great, but I gave the Matrix my vote because it had a better story. T3 was just more of the same really... There is nothing wrong with that, it's just that Reloaded deepened the plot of the Matrix...

Jul 14, 2003, 03:21 PM	#7
ZzzombieBunny Cake or Death? Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 258 Rep Power: 0	On a sidenote I gotta say the fight scene with Neo vs Mr Smith(s) was prolly one of the best fights scenes ive seen... Keanu might not be oscar material actor, but damn, he had to memorize some 500+ moves for that scene... 500!? I have trouble just to bend down and touch my feet....

Jul 14, 2003, 03:22 PM	#8
dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 70 System Specs	Arnold is the freakin man! I still can't believe how good this guy looks for his age. He's simply amazing T3 all the way!!!

Jul 14, 2003, 08:30 PM	#10
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	Haven't seen T-3 yet (I'm not in the US, give me a break!), but I enjoyed X-2 more than Matrix.

Jul 15, 2003, 01:08 AM	#13
brc64 Zeeky H. Bomb Join Date: May 2002 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 826 Rep Power: 0	I voted on Matrix 2, but I wasn't too thrilled with either of them (I didn't think they sucked, though). I've seen many movies this year, but I haven't really, really liked anything since X2. That and Bruce Almighty. Those two movies I really felt that I got my money's worth out of. - Me

Jul 15, 2003, 01:26 AM	#14
NaumoJR Paranoid Android Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Planet Telex Posts: 1,029 Rep Power: 0	Reloaded seemed rushed, T3 had a better pace.

Jul 15, 2003, 02:10 AM	#15
No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	Aww man.. Why isn't there a BOTH liked equally option?! Cuz I enjoyed both~ __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here

Jul 15, 2003, 02:15 AM	#16
ryanraab DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 194 Rep Power: 0	T1 all they way then goes T2 then t3 then matrix 1 then matrix 2 and don't know about m3 though

Jul 15, 2003, 05:11 AM	#17
NaumoJR Paranoid Android Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Planet Telex Posts: 1,029 Rep Power: 0	T2, T1, T3... in that order.

Jul 15, 2003, 05:19 AM	#18
Shadow Lady Avril Fan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: somewhere in colombia, okok, bogotá city :p Posts: 1,262 Rep Power: 0	good, then Im not alone sayin Matrix: Reloaded sucked ^^ itreally wasnt what I was expecting, too much action, too much effects, nothing of history, I guess Matrix: Revolutions will be all Story and amazing turns ^^ ohh well, T3 on the other hand was exactly as expected, except for the final and was very... very short ohh well, my vote was for T3 but I think you should have included Xmen 2 in this even when it was a long time ago, and what about the upcoming BadBoys 2, I want to c it and I think it will be better than anyt others 'till now __________________ Oblivion ftw

Jul 15, 2003, 09:14 AM	#20
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	t3 to short .. left some confusion if you didnt put the pices togreather some stuff didn't make alot of since... some stuff they messed up on matrix __________________

Jul 15, 2003, 03:15 PM	#24
Asmoday Demonic Join Date: May 2002 Location: In the cold, dark north... Posts: 5,198 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	Dunno if she ever been in a porn-flick....but she has had roles in other 'normal' movies and tv-shows though.. http://www.kristanna.com/ __________________ How You can help Hardwareheaven by using Digg

Jul 15, 2003, 03:24 PM	Thread Starter #25
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	I was almost sure I read articles about her before she was famous being in porn films, hey I could be wrong !

Jul 15, 2003, 04:08 PM	#26
evergreen DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: West Virginia Posts: 148 Rep Power: 0	I enjoyed them both. I used to be a tougher critic, but my step-son works at the theater and movies are free! T3 was good; my wife (who usually does not like movies that I love/like) even liked it. Yes, the TX model was nice! Never heard of porn stars called models??? I bet it was her ass on film--aftering viewing her website, I doubt that she would be too hesitant to show it. Do you think that there will be a T4? T1 the best, then T2, then T3. I think my favorite scene is when Arnold takes out the police station in T1...

Jul 15, 2003, 04:13 PM	#27
GravY Master Shake Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 199 Rep Power: 0	you guys are nuts.. T-2/T-1/T-3 .. T-2 was a much better movie all around.. Kinda like Cameron and Aliens.. __________________ Amd 2400+ @ 2415mhz 11.5x210, Vantec Aeroflow, 512mb Pc3200 5-2-2-2, 9500np->9700 [color=red]17697[/color] 3dmark2k1 [color=red]5630[/color] 3dmark03, Epox 8rda+ Mobo, WD Special 8mb cache 80gig, Plex 48/24/48

Jul 15, 2003, 04:21 PM	#28
evergreen DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: West Virginia Posts: 148 Rep Power: 0	http://www.killermovies.com/t/termin...cles/3150.html "The big question is we know terminators time travel in the nude, so how did you feel about your first nude scene? Well, it isn’t my first, but it was the last night, very last night of filming. It was originally supposed to be the first night but with location problems, whatever, ended up being the last night. I was glad that it was because I was really able to fine tune my body in the way that I wanted it to look. I did extensive training and through that worked with a nutritionist so I put on about 15 pounds of muscle mass. I actually was a lot bigger than I am now. So, I felt okay about it."

Jul 16, 2003, 04:44 PM	#29
evergreen DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: West Virginia Posts: 148 Rep Power: 0	T1 and T2 are definitely close in my ranking, but T1 made the first impression on me and they say, "the first impression is a lasting impression..."

Jul 16, 2003, 07:33 PM	#30
Jeff Yarr... I be blind! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 3,190 Rep Power: 74	Yeah, I actually saw T2 before T1, so I think T2 is the best, however, I feel they are all pretty close in overall quality. I liked them all about equally. __________________