[Dyre Straits]

I've lived in Georgia since 1983. I've never seen the snow accumulate so fast as what it did this past night! It started falling around 9:30 p.m. where I was and, within 30 minutes the roads were already covered to the point where you couldn't see what lane you were in nor any of the deflectors that mark the center lane.

We closed the store pronto (Pizza Hut) and had to clean up before we could go home.

By the time I left the store there was already about 3-4 inches of snow on the roads. It took me fully 45 minutes to travel what normally takes me about 12-15 minutes.

Just about everything in Georgia, and some nearby states, is shutting down for at least today (Monday) and, if what the weather forecasters are saying happens, it could get WORSE! ICE!

If the freezing rain and sleet begin to fall, we almost certainly will start seeing major power outages all across the state. One reason is that our state has a lot of pine trees. The pine limbs get weighted down with snow and ice and begin to break off and take overhead power lines with them.

They're already calling this an historic storm for us and a State of Emergency is already in force.

Stay tuned......

[temeteus82]

Here in Finland our power companies has the task to make sure that there is no trees that could damage the power lines in winter time. During the summer the line will be inspected and if there is a tree that could cause damage to the line it will be removed. Some land owners to that for the power companies just to get wood to their fireplaces and saunas... The power companies can utilize the threes by making biomass...

[BlueMak]

Originally Posted by Dyre Straits

I've lived in Georgia since 1983. I've never seen the snow accumulate so fast as what it did this past night! It started falling around 9:30 p.m. where I was and, within 30 minutes the roads were already covered to the point where you couldn't see what lane you were in nor any of the deflectors that mark the center lane.

We closed the store pronto (Pizza Hut) and had to clean up before we could go home.

By the time I left the store there was already about 3-4 inches of snow on the roads. It took me fully 45 minutes to travel what normally takes me about 12-15 minutes.

Just about everything in Georgia, and some nearby states, is shutting down for at least today (Monday) and, if what the weather forecasters are saying happens, it could get WORSE! ICE!

If the freezing rain and sleet begin to fall, we almost certainly will start seeing major power outages all across the state. One reason is that our state has a lot of pine trees. The pine limbs get weighted down with snow and ice and begin to break off and take overhead power lines with them.

They're already calling this an historic storm for us and a State of Emergency is already in force.

Stay tuned......

Sounds exciting. Where I live (Thessaloniki) the most exciting weather that has hit the city was probably, I don't know, a thunderstorm I guess.
But we have plenty of earthquakes

Stay safe Dyre. I like you even more now that I know you have a Pizza Hut. Mmmm extra cheese and pepperoni!

[Dyre Straits]

Originally Posted by BlueMak

Sounds exciting. Where I live (Thessaloniki) the most exciting weather that has hit the city was probably, I don't know, a thunderstorm I guess.
But we have plenty of earthquakes

Stay safe Dyre. I like you even more now that I know you have a Pizza Hut. Mmmm extra cheese and pepperoni!

I do enjoy working at Pizza Hut. Thankfully, tonight, I brought home a Hand Tossed Pepperoni with Extra Cheese to tide me over during the storm.

[Tyrsonswood]

Nothing new for these parts, but you guys aren't set up for it...... Stay safe, stay warm and stay indoors.

[goddesss]

brings back memories of "Ice Storm '98" I'd rather be stuck IN Pizza Hut, go buy a generator RIGHT NOW and you can have an ice storm pizza party!

[Judas]

well at least it SNOWED before it was freezing rain..... cause that will make life driving and walking much better.... where as freezing rain before snow is insanity to step foot outside your door... let alone drive

[Tyrsonswood]

We're getting hammered now..... they are calling for 2-4 inches over the next 24 hours but if this keeps up we'll get more than that. Of course, we are supposed to be used to it, but these idiots can't drive and this town does very little street maintenance...... Should be fun to watch.

[slugbug]

Meanwhile up here in Canada we've barely had any snow in weeks.

[Tyrsonswood]

But,..... see....... There's no such thing as "climate change"........ It's all a lie!

[Judas]

It is a lie.....

In the way that they explain it.....

[Tyrsonswood]

So, you're saying that the weather patterns haven't changed at all?..... everything is just like it was 20 years ago.......


Don't start with your "who's to blame" cr@p because I really don't care.

[Chaos]

We are expecting 20-30cm of snow here tomorrow ad just had 15cm on the weekend so it seems winter is taking hold after all

[Judas]

Originally Posted by Tyrsonswood

So, you're saying that the weather patterns haven't changed at all?..... everything is just like it was 20 years ago.......


Don't start with your "who's to blame" cr@p because I really don't care.

Weather patterns have always changed...

And without getting into the blame bullshit which is essentially that.... bullshit......

We have thousands of years worth of data that proves that there were rainstorms in current day deserts, deserts used to be tropical at one point... frozen at another..... deserts again and forever rotating through cycles of changes.

Focusing on a single point and ignoring the rest of the universe around it is idiotic..... and blameing anyone.. specifically the human race for creating such changes is utterly absurd too. It's a joke.... And several people are getting rich due to it.

[Tyrsonswood]

All I'm saying is.... For the majority of my life (I'm 54) weather has been rather consistent and followed patterns..... in an essence could be "predicted" at least a few days or a week in advance. The southern states didn't have snow, northern ones did, Canada snow was required........ The local river or lake would freeze over every year during the same month, when I was a kid in Syracuse NY there was a "January thaw" EVERY JANUARY! (Imagine that there was even a name for something that happened every year)

It's not like that anymore, for the past 8-10 years not a single season has been the same as any other and nowhere near what they "should" be for the location. That's "change" and it's "climate"......

I'm not talking about 1000 or 10,000 years ago, and I told you not to bring the "blame game" into it......

[Judas]

Thing is that it varies.. and always will vary... the sample set of data for a short duration isn't good enough..

Considering way back when.....

There used to be specific ponds/lakes frozen over solid in the winters..... and arn't now..... but then again there used to never be frozen lakes/ponds that are frozen now...

Climatic shifts have always taken place and will continue to.

My father is 57, he recalls running around during christmas up here in t-shirts playing baseball, t-shirt weather. And that was in the mid late 50's early 60's...

Another case is the freak snow storms and blizzards or rain accumilation that takes place at any given time in the last 60+ years

Even in the last 10 years it's rather been mild... not to hot and not to cold..

Actually pull up weather data and doing the averages.... even for my own area... our yearly temperatuer has dropped by 2-3*C if i did my figuring right.

We used to have a pre-spring run off .... then things stayed frozen longer... Really we can sit around all day and talk about that insanely hot week or that insanely cold week ... or 2...... that we had during that year.....

And as a matter of fact... with the introduction of computers into the weather field... the accuracy of our weather predictions have always gotten worse and worse.. as they continue to insist on fireing the people that are responcible for predicting and relaying the information. Initially the forcasts for specific areas had their own meteorologists.... now you can't find a single one of them that has a clue, and none of the real ones are hired to do the job anymore. All they do is allow a terrible "simulating" computer do the chewing and then get some idiot they call a modern day meteorologist to spit out what the computer deams to be the most accurate guestamation.

Shit i don't know how many times i've emailed the weather jackasses that report for our general area about what an idiot their computer system is and how fowled up and wrong it is.

Tried to phone.. i've been blocked from their email now lol..

Their information says "Sunshine and blue skys" yet it's in reality pouring rain, blowing wind, and we are getting pelted by a fierce storm...

And they like to say "oh it's just a freak storm" but shit... this could clearly be seen hour and hour before hand...

A real meteorologist actually lives a ways away.... from here.... he used to frequently update the national weather site for our area before they fired him in favor of the terrible computer.. he's not to happy... and although he keeps his own data still going today, he's actually quite damn good at being accurate for our area without having to rely to much on a computer to dictate anything to him. He mentioned quite often that computer data gives people to much of a false sense of security in think they can predict it. It's better to for the most part... ignore it first and make the prediction based on other factors BEFORE consulting the current data. Then figure out which is right.

I took almost an entire 3 month period and wrote down the accuracy rating on the forcasts...

you know what the national weather forcasters accuracy for our area was?

under 3%

that's utterly pathetic.

And that was with a 2-3*C give or take temperature flux from what they reported to what we actually got... and then top it off what their weather predictions for the day were going to be.

[Tyrsonswood]

So.... you're saying...... things have changed.

[blibbax]

Things have changed due to the many overlapping natural cycles at work, yes.

But to be honest I don't see how you can see that this has been unaffected by manmade influences.

I also don't want to play a blame game, and I think that the best course of action for anyone concerned is preparation, and not laws, regulation, protests etc... but total denial that there is a problem is just daft at this stage. If you want to live in a world of conspiracy theories, fine, go ahead, just keep in mind that most of a world population in the billions strongly disagree, and they're not all gullable, stupid or misinformed.

[Tyrsonswood]

Here we go with the blame game.......


RE READ my posts...... did I ever mention a CAUSE???

[blibbax]

My post wasn't directed at you, sorry for any lack of clarity.

Furthermore, I did say that my intention was not to start or continue a "blame game".

[Tyrsonswood]

K.... sorry


I'm just so sick of the blame game, and at the same time can't understand those that deny the fact that there's change........... Really doesn't matter at this point why.

[Judas]

Originally Posted by Tyrsonswood

So.... you're saying...... things have changed.

what i'm saying is that everything always is changing...

and it's due to none other then the fact that it will continue to always change and shift and move and forever change naturally without any kind of typical joe x 7 billion having anything to do with it.

[Dyre Straits]

I'm kind of in the group that recognizes that there are very natural cycles that cause variations in how our weather develops and how our climates may change over several decades from previous ones.

I'm originally from Indiana. When my parents moved us from there to Florida back in 1960, we had planned to pull out of our driveway to head south on the last Monday of the month of June.

On Sunday, the last Sunday of JUNE, we got 4 inches of snow!!! This is no joke! This happened in the northern half of Indiana where we lived about 50 miles north of Indianapolis.

The temperature rebounded on Monday to a high of 49...enough to help melt the snow so we could drive out in our '55 Chevy pulling a U-Haul trailer. (I think it was a "U-Haul" but can't remember if they even existed back then. )

My Mom took this as a sign from God that we had made the right decision to move to Florida. LOL!

As an update to my OP here, schools have now been closed for the entire week. My 8-year old's current favorite two words, "Snow DAY" have been upgraded to, "SNOW WEEK!"

[mikede]

i feel on my A** 3 times yesterday walking my dog in philly i looked like an idiot the snow i can deal with its the ice that gets me

[Dyre Straits]

Originally Posted by mikede

i feel on my A** 3 times yesterday walking my dog in philly i looked like an idiot the snow i can deal with its the ice that gets me

The ice is a killer! And, that is not a joke, either!

An 82-year old Marine vet in our area slipped on ice outside his home a couple days ago, fell and hit his head. It killed him.

As it stands now, it's actually more dangerous for us delivery drivers when we get out of our cars to carry the delivery up to the door! People here have done NOTHING to clear the driveways, sidewalks, and steps going to their front doors.

Thankfully, there is warmer weather and even rain in the forecast after this weekend. I'll be very happy/relieved, to see all this snow and ice gone!

[mikede]

the worst thing was that i lost my gloves and i had to use a pair of socks for my hands to shovel because my car was snowed in so i could not go buy a pair

[cheftonyganza]

LOL! I live here too, in Dallas, about 40 minutes from atl. I cn not believe that we still have a snow/ice mix EVERYWHERE! The kids round here have not had school all week. Thankfully, temps are rising today, so the ice should disappear.

Let me add my lil 2 cents; I find it interesting that we had a polar shift, birds and fish died all over the world, and all of that (which happened 1/1) was so closely followed by this madness... Makes one think...

[synthesis204]

I live in Boston. I currently have over 45" of snow on my lawn. Shush.

Edit: Is it possible for a thread with Judas to not break down into flame wars?

[blibbax]

Originally Posted by synthesis204

Edit: Is it possible for a thread with Judas to not break down into flame wars?

I think that it is possible, but just not so noticeable when it happens.