What ever happened to the great guitar players

Falstaff · Jul 20, 2003, 01:59 PM

I listen to music as often as anyone, and it seems what passes for guitar virtuoso now seems to diminish my appreciation for the great ones of years past. I began to learn guitar at an early age after I saw the Woodstock films and played up until my injury years ago. I still enjoy the older stuff from various artists...Can anyone give me some feedback on some new and exciting guitar players because I am afraid what passes for good guitar playing now as really lowered my expectations....
I remember:
Robert Johnson
BB King
Chet Atkins
Roy Buchanan
Rory Gallagher
Pete Townsend
Jimi Page
John Mayal
Jeff Beck
Jimi Hendrix
Eric Clapton
Tommy Bolin
Alvin Lee
Carlos Santana
Steve Vai
Gary Moore
Peter Frampton
Glen Tipton
Alex Liefson
Joe Satriani
the list goes on....whatever happend to the arena style rock that these guys put out...where has it all gone....can anyone recommend a guitar player worthy of the caliber of playing I heard in the 70s and 80's and hell even in the 90's...I sure would appreciate it.

***Veridian3*** · Jul 20, 2003, 02:51 PM

Arena Style Rock:

Richie Sambora - Specifically look for a track from his second solo album..

Album Name: Undiscovered Soul
Track: Who I am

The above track was recorded in one take and has some of the best guitar work of recent times.

His 2 albums (Stranger in This Town and Undiscovered Soul) are actually quite good, Eric Clapton plays on the first one and its a very bluesy, soulful, turn of the lights and light a candel or two album. The second is more mainstream rock.

Underrated Guitarists that are worth a listen - Especially Live:

Prince - maybe someone here can say what the best examples of his work are...i dont have the albums to hand
Bruce Springsteen - Try "Live in NYC"

Others :

The White Stripes
Tom Morello from Rage Against The Machine and Audioslave - Very unique guitar style.

Stu

Zardon · Jul 20, 2003, 02:56 PM

well you left Brian May off your list jeff, one of the most influential and harmonically driven guitarists of the last 30 years.......

as for "new" guitarists....... they arent really many of that caliber anymore, some decent band guitarists, but solos arent "cool" anymore, well thats their excuse.......

Chaos · Jul 20, 2003, 02:59 PM

where are Eddie Van Halen and Randy Rhoads???

As for newer artists I really enjoy Colin James, and here's one that none of you will have heard of unless you follow the Canadian blues world, but check out Charlie A'Court

Zardon · Jul 20, 2003, 03:04 PM

halen still plays, but he had a pretty bad illness, rhoads is dead.

Zardon · Jul 20, 2003, 03:06 PM

blues saraceno's "plaid" is a good album if you missed it......

and jeff healeys first album, that was awesome.

Chaos · Jul 20, 2003, 03:10 PM

yes jeff healeys first was great..... he is now producing and doing the jazz thing these days...... in reference to Halen and Rhoads I just thought they belonged on the list.....

Falstaff · Jul 20, 2003, 03:16 PM

I actually still listen to his last solo effort.., He has become a christian right?
I saw Jeff Healy in Florida years ago, and enjoyed his Hendrix covers a great deal..
Neal Schon and Craig Chaquico are good too, but they seem to be doing jazz now.
What can I say about Eddie, hasn't been the same since Valerie Bertinelli left...
And Randy Rhoads....I really got burned out on he comparisons between him and many other great guitarists, regardless of his skill.
And the White Stripes, my son listens to it all the time, maybe I should hijack his copy and listen, I saw them on the tele and I wasn't impressed, but hey gotta start somewhere...
And Prince...yeh he is good...and he is wierd...and he bears some scrutiny and patience..
I can still recall Purple Rain and Lets go crazy as well...
I failed to list all of the guitarists but I would like to know what yall think of Frank Zappa..
I know he is dead, and I bought everything he produced and some post mortem efforts by his label, but I enjoy it all...I love the Shiek Yer Bootie album, stunning stuff...
I remember the group missing persons, and the guitarists was pretty darn good, he went on to session with many other artists, but I cannot recall his name at all....sigh..
I guess I am too darn old...
Saw Richie Sambora in a club in Tokyo....drunk and silly, playing an acoustic..I was not impressed..
but his solo effort is okay, just cannot stand his partner in crime..
P.s. anyone like Zak Wylde?

Chaos · Jul 20, 2003, 03:21 PM

is Zak, Ozzy's latest guitarist...if so he was decent live the last time I saw Ozzy

Falstaff · Jul 20, 2003, 03:38 PM

Black Label Society, he thinks Zak Wylde is talented and "awesome" I tried to listen to some of it, but it didn't impress nearly as much as the guitarist for Godsmack

Zardon · Jul 20, 2003, 03:40 PM

what about ynwqie malmsteen

he is nice and subtle (**coughs**)

Falstaff · Jul 20, 2003, 03:45 PM

I listened to rising force and I was impressed, but I listened to all his efforts on a sunday afternoon and it seemed to all sound the same...you know Tuetonic rock...Funny thing though, I forgot to mention the Schenker brothers, they were awesome....I should have added them to the list as well....I love the song "The Zoo"....

Chaos · Jul 20, 2003, 03:51 PM

I used to be a huge Scorpions fan.....I also read that Judas Priest are gonna give it another go after 10 years in the bullpen.....

Falstaff · Jul 20, 2003, 03:56 PM

I had to put it back on the shelf, pretty boring without Claus Mien singing...sigh
does anyone remember Budgie? a super group from the 70's and 80's from england?
I love Budgie and can't get enough...whatch yall think?

Chaos · Jul 20, 2003, 04:00 PM

wow, there's one I have not seen in eons dude..... I think the singers jump to ACDC was a good career move on his part....

Chaos · Jul 20, 2003, 04:02 PM

UFO also used to have some interseting stuff

Chaos · Jul 20, 2003, 04:03 PM

man with all these flash backs it makes me want to break out the old blow torch and a piece of "BLACK" and do a plate full of knives........lmao

Falstaff · Jul 20, 2003, 04:03 PM

no way man.....I didn't know that....I still listen to budgie and most of the music is in my opinion timeless, raw manchester style music like Black Sabbath in my opinion...different style, but raw appeal....I love Black Velvet Stallion

Chaos · Jul 20, 2003, 04:09 PM

Was Brian Johnson not the former front man for Budgie???? I don't have any of the albums anymore but I could swear that he used to front Budgie????

Falstaff · Jul 20, 2003, 04:18 PM

gonna look for my CD collection and put the turntable away right now...Budgie had two guitar players equally skilled and worthy of mention, that alone makes them standout...

Chaos · Jul 20, 2003, 04:28 PM

I guess I was wrong I have found no mention of him anywhere in reference to budgie..

Budgie lineups

EDIT: The band he used to front was called Geordie

Falstaff · Jul 20, 2003, 04:30 PM

there are many bands that play budgie music here in my town,they still bring in the crowds in Cardiff too, I think they are worth a listen as well....look for the song Napoleon, it is awesome...really good stuff

desmo · Jul 21, 2003, 04:46 AM

Just wanted to remind everyone of the late Albert Collins, sometimes known as 'the ice man'.

And for someone playing hot licks today, Buddy Guy. Yeah I know he's as old as the hills but he still plays the blues.....

Speakin' of which, Johnny Winter would blow the doors off half those listed in the original post.

Falstaff · Jul 21, 2003, 04:54 AM

albert collins is damn good, just like Robert Johnson....I love the blues, but it isn't arena style rock...but it has it's own place...

Frodo301 · Jul 21, 2003, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by desmo
Just wanted to remind everyone of the late Albert Collins, sometimes known as 'the ice man'.

And for someone playing hot licks today, Buddy Guy. Yeah I know he's as old as the hills but he still plays the blues.....

Speaking of the blues I was quite impressed with Indigenous, got to see them live last Wednesday and the show consisted of some of the best blues playing I had seen in many a year.

Rasta Monsta · Jul 21, 2003, 06:50 AM

Are you looking for someone who SOUNDS LIKE the folks you mentioned, or who accomplished what they did, in terms of breaking barriers, creating new styles and sounds, and pushing music forward in true kick-ass fashion?

If you are seeking the latter, please consider spinning some discs with this man:

.

Truly awesome, skilled, talented & visionary, and the first true guitar god of the 21st.

rasta

desmo · Jul 21, 2003, 06:55 AM

Hey rasta, whatever you posted there (picture/link) ain't coming thru. How about a name? thanx...

Rasta Monsta · Jul 21, 2003, 06:59 AM

Jane's Addiction, Red Hot Chili Peppers, and solo.

Check out Jane's "Nothing's Shocking" LOUD.

Aye caramba!

rasta

Falstaff · Jul 21, 2003, 07:00 AM

that's dave navaro....I actually saw him in San Francisco....he is a strange dude...His solo effort takes some getting used to, but he definitely is innovative...saw him kissing Carmen Electra and forcing his tongue down her throat, ha ha....

desmo · Jul 21, 2003, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rasta Monsta
Jane's Addiction, Red Hot Chili Peppers, and solo.

Check out Jane's "Nothing's Shocking" LOUD.

Aye caramba!

rasta

Oh yeah, got "Nothing's Shocking" right after it came out. Truelly awesome. Early peppers were also great along with the smashing pumpkins. Alot of good stuff there. But I think what falling_jeff was looking for was the 'classic' solo riffs which seems to be missing as of late.

Jul 20, 2003, 01:59 PM	#1
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	What ever happened to the great guitar players I listen to music as often as anyone, and it seems what passes for guitar virtuoso now seems to diminish my appreciation for the great ones of years past. I began to learn guitar at an early age after I saw the Woodstock films and played up until my injury years ago. I still enjoy the older stuff from various artists...Can anyone give me some feedback on some new and exciting guitar players because I am afraid what passes for good guitar playing now as really lowered my expectations.... I remember: Robert Johnson BB King Chet Atkins Roy Buchanan Rory Gallagher Pete Townsend Jimi Page John Mayal Jeff Beck Jimi Hendrix Eric Clapton Tommy Bolin Alvin Lee Carlos Santana Steve Vai Gary Moore Peter Frampton Glen Tipton Alex Liefson Joe Satriani the list goes on....whatever happend to the arena style rock that these guys put out...where has it all gone....can anyone recommend a guitar player worthy of the caliber of playing I heard in the 70s and 80's and hell even in the 90's...I sure would appreciate it. __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jul 20, 2003, 02:59 PM	#4
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,268 Rep Power: 167 System Specs	where are Eddie Van Halen and Randy Rhoads??? As for newer artists I really enjoy Colin James, and here's one that none of you will have heard of unless you follow the Canadian blues world, but check out Charlie A'Court __________________

Jul 20, 2003, 03:10 PM	#7
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,268 Rep Power: 167 System Specs	yes jeff healeys first was great..... he is now producing and doing the jazz thing these days...... in reference to Halen and Rhoads I just thought they belonged on the list..... __________________

Jul 20, 2003, 03:16 PM	Thread Starter #8
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	Sorry about brian may I actually still listen to his last solo effort.., He has become a christian right? I saw Jeff Healy in Florida years ago, and enjoyed his Hendrix covers a great deal.. Neal Schon and Craig Chaquico are good too, but they seem to be doing jazz now. What can I say about Eddie, hasn't been the same since Valerie Bertinelli left... And Randy Rhoads....I really got burned out on he comparisons between him and many other great guitarists, regardless of his skill. And the White Stripes, my son listens to it all the time, maybe I should hijack his copy and listen, I saw them on the tele and I wasn't impressed, but hey gotta start somewhere... And Prince...yeh he is good...and he is wierd...and he bears some scrutiny and patience.. I can still recall Purple Rain and Lets go crazy as well... I failed to list all of the guitarists but I would like to know what yall think of Frank Zappa.. I know he is dead, and I bought everything he produced and some post mortem efforts by his label, but I enjoy it all...I love the Shiek Yer Bootie album, stunning stuff... I remember the group missing persons, and the guitarists was pretty darn good, he went on to session with many other artists, but I cannot recall his name at all....sigh.. I guess I am too darn old... Saw Richie Sambora in a club in Tokyo....drunk and silly, playing an acoustic..I was not impressed.. but his solo effort is okay, just cannot stand his partner in crime.. P.s. anyone like Zak Wylde? __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jul 20, 2003, 03:21 PM	#9
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,268 Rep Power: 167 System Specs	is Zak, Ozzy's latest guitarist...if so he was decent live the last time I saw Ozzy __________________

Jul 20, 2003, 02:51 PM	#2
*Veridian3* Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cloaked Posts: 5,027 Rep Power: 181	Arena Style Rock: Richie Sambora - Specifically look for a track from his second solo album.. Album Name: Undiscovered Soul Track: Who I am The above track was recorded in one take and has some of the best guitar work of recent times. His 2 albums (Stranger in This Town and Undiscovered Soul) are actually quite good, Eric Clapton plays on the first one and its a very bluesy, soulful, turn of the lights and light a candel or two album. The second is more mainstream rock. Underrated Guitarists that are worth a listen - Especially Live: Prince - maybe someone here can say what the best examples of his work are...i dont have the albums to hand Bruce Springsteen - Try "Live in NYC" Others : The White Stripes Tom Morello from Rage Against The Machine and Audioslave - Very unique guitar style. Stu

Jul 20, 2003, 02:56 PM	#3
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	well you left Brian May off your list jeff, one of the most influential and harmonically driven guitarists of the last 30 years....... as for "new" guitarists....... they arent really many of that caliber anymore, some decent band guitarists, but solos arent "cool" anymore, well thats their excuse.......

Jul 20, 2003, 03:04 PM	#5
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	halen still plays, but he had a pretty bad illness, rhoads is dead.

Jul 20, 2003, 03:06 PM	#6
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	blues saraceno's "plaid" is a good album if you missed it...... and jeff healeys first album, that was awesome.

Jul 20, 2003, 03:38 PM	Thread Starter #10
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	My son listens to Black Label Society, he thinks Zak Wylde is talented and "awesome" I tried to listen to some of it, but it didn't impress nearly as much as the guitarist for Godsmack __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jul 20, 2003, 03:40 PM	#11
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	what about ynwqie malmsteen he is nice and subtle (coughs)

Jul 20, 2003, 03:45 PM	Thread Starter #12
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	Malmsteem? I listened to rising force and I was impressed, but I listened to all his efforts on a sunday afternoon and it seemed to all sound the same...you know Tuetonic rock...Funny thing though, I forgot to mention the Schenker brothers, they were awesome....I should have added them to the list as well....I love the song "The Zoo".... __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jul 20, 2003, 03:51 PM	#13
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,268 Rep Power: 167 System Specs	I used to be a huge Scorpions fan.....I also read that Judas Priest are gonna give it another go after 10 years in the bullpen..... __________________

Jul 20, 2003, 03:56 PM	Thread Starter #14
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	Yeh, just found the MSG album from Micheal Schenkar I had to put it back on the shelf, pretty boring without Claus Mien singing...sigh does anyone remember Budgie? a super group from the 70's and 80's from england? I love Budgie and can't get enough...whatch yall think? __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor." Last edited by fallang_jeff; Jul 20, 2003 at 04:02 PM.

Jul 20, 2003, 04:00 PM	#15
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,268 Rep Power: 167 System Specs	wow, there's one I have not seen in eons dude..... I think the singers jump to ACDC was a good career move on his part.... __________________

Jul 20, 2003, 04:02 PM	#16
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,268 Rep Power: 167 System Specs	UFO also used to have some interseting stuff __________________

Jul 20, 2003, 04:03 PM	#17
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,268 Rep Power: 167 System Specs	man with all these flash backs it makes me want to break out the old blow torch and a piece of "BLACK" and do a plate full of knives........lmao __________________

Jul 20, 2003, 04:03 PM	Thread Starter #18
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	ACDC? no way man.....I didn't know that....I still listen to budgie and most of the music is in my opinion timeless, raw manchester style music like Black Sabbath in my opinion...different style, but raw appeal....I love Black Velvet Stallion __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jul 20, 2003, 04:09 PM	#19
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,268 Rep Power: 167 System Specs	Was Brian Johnson not the former front man for Budgie???? I don't have any of the albums anymore but I could swear that he used to front Budgie???? __________________

Jul 20, 2003, 04:18 PM	Thread Starter #20
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	I don't think so, I am trying read the bloody album cover right now, but it is worn gonna look for my CD collection and put the turntable away right now...Budgie had two guitar players equally skilled and worthy of mention, that alone makes them standout... __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jul 20, 2003, 04:28 PM	#21
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,268 Rep Power: 167 System Specs	I guess I was wrong I have found no mention of him anywhere in reference to budgie.. Budgie lineups EDIT: The band he used to front was called Geordie __________________

Jul 20, 2003, 04:30 PM	Thread Starter #22
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	Still it peeked my interest as well there are many bands that play budgie music here in my town,they still bring in the crowds in Cardiff too, I think they are worth a listen as well....look for the song Napoleon, it is awesome...really good stuff __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jul 21, 2003, 04:46 AM	#23
desmo DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	Just wanted to remind everyone of the late Albert Collins, sometimes known as 'the ice man'. And for someone playing hot licks today, Buddy Guy. Yeah I know he's as old as the hills but he still plays the blues..... Speakin' of which, Johnny Winter would blow the doors off half those listed in the original post.

Jul 21, 2003, 04:54 AM	Thread Starter #24
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	yeh....johnny albert collins is damn good, just like Robert Johnson....I love the blues, but it isn't arena style rock...but it has it's own place... __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jul 21, 2003, 06:55 AM	#27
desmo DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	Hey rasta, whatever you posted there (picture/link) ain't coming thru. How about a name? thanx...

Jul 21, 2003, 07:00 AM	Thread Starter #29
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	ah yes that's dave navaro....I actually saw him in San Francisco....he is a strange dude...His solo effort takes some getting used to, but he definitely is innovative...saw him kissing Carmen Electra and forcing his tongue down her throat, ha ha.... __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."