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Old Apr 29, 2004, 10:36 PM   #1
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Paradoxes... what wonderous things!

hehe... let's have a thread of paradoxes

I'll start us off with a nice and simple, yet very good, one:

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The statement below is true

The statement above is false
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Old Apr 29, 2004, 10:43 PM   #2
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God is eternal, he was ever born or created, he has always been there- w/ no beginning-

Actually he will always be there too, eternal lfe. -but we can kind of comprehend that too since we will go on forever-

but we were born, we had a beginning, not having a beginning is beyond a human being's comprehension.

Even if you don't believe it- chew on that for a while try to comprehend always being there, never having been born, but just existing forever into the past- You can't do it.
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Here is a little historical paradox for you that is actually true.

The Great American Paradox:

American freedom was built on the back of American slavery.
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Old Apr 30, 2004, 01:39 AM   #4
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Here is a little historical paradox for you that is actually true.

The Great American Paradox:

American freedom was built on the back of American slavery.

Eeeeeh, I find that debateable >.<
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Old Apr 30, 2004, 03:30 AM   #5
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If you are travelling faster then the speed of light and have an accident..... would you be able to watch yourself in a 3rd person have that accident?...... If you created a time machine in which you traveled back in time and stopped yourself from creating it.... would you still end up creating it?
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Old Apr 30, 2004, 03:42 AM   #6
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.....If you created a time machine in which you traveled back in time and stopped yourself from creating it.... would you still end up creating it?
I would say infinite loop on that one.



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If you are travelling faster then the speed of light and have an accident..... would you be able to watch yourself in a 3rd person have that accident?......
Nope, you'd be dead I think.
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Old Apr 30, 2004, 03:51 AM   #7
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I would say infinite loop on that one.



Nope, you'd be dead I think.
right?
I would say infinite loop as well... but would you ever be able to see your death... i mean.....it would be weird as hell to figure out how it would work...

as for the being dead for the seconds... lets consider it a non fatal accident......
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Eternity is but a moment to God.

not really a paradox...but very interesting to think about. its from xenogears btw
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Old Apr 30, 2004, 04:17 AM   #9
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This is a proof by contradiction. I will assume that movement is possible and derive a contradiciton, thereby proving movement to be impossible.

So suppose movement is possible. In this case, the great Greek warrior Achilles can have a foot race with the very slow tortoise. Now, Achilles is the greatest warrior ever (imagine Rambo and the Terminator combined, and that dude wouldn't last ten seconds against Achilles. Achilles could flatten Goldberg with one arm tied behind his back. In fact, Achilles was so awesome that this Greek guy named Homer wrote a cool book about him called the Iliad.) It isn't really a fair race. I mean Achilles could smoke the tortoise who is slow and old and has to carry her house on her back. In the interests of fairness, we had better give the tortoise a little bit of a head start, let's say twenty feet.

Now we're ready to race. There's Achilles (the greatest warrior ever) and twenty feet ahead of him is the old tortoise. Bang! The starter's gun goes off and they're racing.

In a flash, Achilles covers the twenty feet separating him from the tortoise. But it takes him some positive amount of time to do it (albeit a very, very small amount of time) and in that little, tiny, miniscule amount of time the tortoise moves a little bit forward.

In a flash, Achilles covers that distance. But again, it takes him some small, tiny positive amount of time to do it. And, again, in that time the tortoise is able to move forward.

Never fear! Achilles is the greatest warrior ever. He could tear the arms off a gundark! In a flash, he covers that tiny distance ... but it takes him some tiny amount of time to do it ... and in that time the tortoise is able to move just the smallest amount forward.

But ...

... following this reasoning it is clear that Achilles can never overtake the poor, old, weak tortoise who must, therefore, win the race! This is clearly impossible, and so our starting assumption -- that movement was possible -- must be wrong.

Movement must therefore be impossible.

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1=2

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Suppose a=b and neither is zero.

Then,


a²-b²=(a-b)(a+b)

Also,

a²-b²=a²-ab

So,

a²-ab=(a-b)(a+b)
a(a-b)=(a-b)(a+b)
a=a+b
a=a+a
a=2a
1=2
(this is actually easily disproven...you cannot devide by (a-b) being as a==b therefore (a-b) would be zero, and that breaks the first law of division)

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1=2

Proof
Suppose a=b and neither is zero.

Then,


a²-b²=(a-b)(a+b)

Also,

a²-b²=a²-ab

So,

a²-ab=(a-b)(a+b)
a(a-b)=(a-b)(a+b)
a=a+b
a=a+a
a=2a
1=2
It's a shame that this is, in fact, wrong... sorry mate
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It's a shame that this is, in fact, wrong... sorry mate
He says it is underneath it, he's throwing it in there cause it's interesting
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