OEM, im still a little confused..

foldingchair · May 5, 2004, 11:06 PM

hey, i read a little about waht OEM means on newegg.com. But im still a little shakey about what it really means. I wanted to buy a Sapphire Radeon 9600XT from newegg, but its OEM instead of RETAIL. From what i read, i know that it has something to do with not having the original box, and some other things. But overall what is the difference between reatail and oem. Is there any performance differences? Thanks a lot.

Dom · May 5, 2004, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by foldingchair
hey, i read a little about waht OEM means on newegg.com. But im still a little shakey about what it really means. I wanted to buy a Sapphire Radeon 9600XT from newegg, but its OEM instead of RETAIL. From what i read, i know that it has something to do with not having the original box, and some other things. But overall what is the difference between reatail and oem. Is there any performance differences? Thanks a lot.

OEM parts are the same as retail, less the self packaging, and bundled software, etc., OEM is generally made for PC manufacturers; such as Dell. There's no difference in the actual hardware, but there is sometimes a difference in the warranty, retail usually provides three-years, while as OEM might only be thirty-days.

tastyweat · May 5, 2004, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dom
OEM parts are the same as retail, less the self packaging, and bundled software, etc., OEM is generally made for PC manufacturers; such as Dell. There's no difference in the actual hardware, but there is sometimes a difference in the warranty, retail usually provides three-years, while as OEM might only be thirty-days.

right on the money Dom!

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · May 5, 2004, 11:38 PM

actually I have seen some differences in older and lower end hardware where OEM does have slower clock speeds, but nowadays OEM it's all the same. I never would buy a retail creative card because its stupid. The old rage fury pro had a diff in clock speeds ever so slightly but it wasn't a big deal

digerati · May 5, 2004, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dom
OEM parts are the same as retail, less the self packaging, and bundled software, etc., OEM is generally made for PC manufacturers; such as Dell. There's no difference in the actual hardware, but there is sometimes a difference in the warranty, retail usually provides three-years, while as OEM might only be thirty-days.

I thought there was some controversy of certain ATI cards being clocked lower on OEM?

Dom · May 5, 2004, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ^_^
I thought there was some controversy of certain ATI cards being clocked lower on OEM?

Never heard that.

digerati · May 6, 2004, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dom
Never heard that.

I was right

http://tech-report.com/onearticle.x/3015

So check the specifications. Look at the speeds of the Retail and OEM, if they're the same then go for it!

Dom · May 6, 2004, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ^_^
I was right

http://tech-report.com/onearticle.x/3015

So check the specifications. Look at the speeds of the Retail and OEM, if they're the same then go for it!

Article's quite old, but I agree, check the clocks, if for nothing less than to just make ^_^ happy.

foldingchair · May 6, 2004, 12:14 AM

ok thanks, im not sure what the retail specs are, but here are the ones for the EOM one on newegg...

Specifications:
Chipset/Core Speed: ATI RADEON 9600XT/500MHz
Memory/Effective Speed: 128MB DDR/650MHz
BUS: AGP 1X/2X/4X/8X
Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub)+TV-Out(S-Video Out)+DVI Connector
Support 3D API: DirectX®9, OpenGL®2.0
Cable/Accessories: 1 Cable, PowerDVD, Driver CD
Max Resolution@32bit Color: 2048X1536@85Hz

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...102-326&depa=0

Are they the same as retail?

by the way, does this card come with the samsung memory? I heard that there is another kind and its not as good.. cant rememeber the name tho..

thanks all

The_Neon_Cowboy · May 6, 2004, 12:15 AM

but also you miss out on free half life 2
and you get a really short warrenty

Quote:

Originally posted by Dom
Never heard that.

were you been hideing? lol

the for exaomle radeon 64mb vivo's were 183/183 retail 175/175 oem
the new cards don't seen to have that happening... but in early radeon
days thats how it was..

also cards that aren't built by ati its common to use diffrent brans or ram and sometimes slower CAS ram

ati useally ships the boards with faster ram and under clocks it... and if you luckey and check you ram specs from the ram chip maker then you'll find out sometime that higher clock rate... you could then clock you ram to that with out really o/cing the card becouse it's within that chips spec

foldingchair · May 6, 2004, 12:21 AM

well hl2 and warrenty would be nice, but newegg doesnt sell it retail do they? Do you think Fry's computers would have it retail with hl2 and a good warrenty for 150?

Dom · May 6, 2004, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by foldingchair
ok thanks, im not sure what the retail specs are, but here are the ones for the EOM one on newegg...

Specifications:
Chipset/Core Speed: ATI RADEON 9600XT/500MHz
Memory/Effective Speed: 128MB DDR/650MHz
BUS: AGP 1X/2X/4X/8X
Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub)+TV-Out(S-Video Out)+DVI Connector
Support 3D API: DirectX®9, OpenGL®2.0
Cable/Accessories: 1 Cable, PowerDVD, Driver CD
Max Resolution@32bit Color: 2048X1536@85Hz

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...102-326&depa=0

Are they the same as retail?

by the way, does this card come with the samsung memory? I heard that there is another kind and its not as good.. cant rememeber the name tho..

thanks all

The OEM is actually faster than the retail.

The_Neon_Cowboy · May 6, 2004, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dom
The OEM is actually faster than the retail.

how is that? that casd is actaully clocked at 500/600
read the reviews on the page it's a mis print!!!!

also shapire is natorious for haveing disabled the over drive feature!

Dom · May 6, 2004, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Neon_Cowboy
how is that? that casd is actaully clocked at 500/600
read the reviews on the page it's a mis print!!!!

also shapire is natorious for haveing disabled the over drive feature!

LOL, then excuse NewEgg's typos as we forgive yours. In either case, the OEM clocks are the same as the retail's.

The_Neon_Cowboy · May 6, 2004, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by foldingchair
well hl2 and warrenty would be nice, but newegg doesnt sell it retail do they? Do you think Fry's computers would have it retail with hl2 and a good warrenty for 150?

there is for $169
http://www.allstarshop.com/shop/simp...8301&ad=pwatch

thats he cheapest i could find a retailed box with HL2 cupon so you got everything excpt mabe the use of overdrive feature

but for built by ati it more expensive closer to 200 with everything... but you gotta watch out if it doesnt say it has HL2 then it may not! but i'm not shure

of couse i'd rather you but mine

but hey of couse i would
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...threadid=44070

The_Neon_Cowboy · May 6, 2004, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dom
LOL, then excuse NewEgg's typos as we forgive yours. In either case, the OEM clocks are the same as the retail's.

yea but overdrive has to be worth something does it not? and that crappylooking heat sink they are useing

some of thier card do have a diffrent clock etc but you gotta read this
http://www.sapphiretech.com/product-...ull_retail.xls

it all come down to the actaull part number your getting

thee is like 10 diffrent saphire 9600xt's

Dom · May 6, 2004, 12:59 AM

OD is nice, yes, but if you're an overclocker it's useless... No?

foldingchair · May 6, 2004, 01:24 AM

ok ill run up to frys and see what they have there, i dont obsolutaly need hl2, but it would be nice. If the EOM doesnt come with a dual monitor cable, or w/e it is, does anyone know where to buy em? I dont even know what they are called. Thanks

foldingchair · May 6, 2004, 01:27 AM

o dude thanks for that chart, i see now, but how do i tell which one it is? im looking at the newegg thing and i dont see any numbers..

The_Neon_Cowboy · May 6, 2004, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dom
OD is nice, yes, but if you're an overclocker it's useless... No?

yea but the sahpire cooler is an elcheapo and if you gonna get any good of an o/c you'll have to replace it! tack on money there.....

Quote:

Originally posted by foldingchair
ok ill run up to frys and see what they have there, i dont obsolutaly need hl2, but it would be nice. If the EOM doesnt come with a dual monitor cable, or w/e it is, does anyone know where to buy em? I dont even know what they are called. Thanks

it's not a cable but an adaptor ...the video part is known as a DVI-TO-CRT adapter

the other common adaptor used for like the tv out is a S-Video to RCA

Quote:

Originally posted by foldingchair
o dude thanks for that chart, i see now, but how do i tell which one it is? im looking at the newegg thing and i dont see any numbers..

you'd need to call and check them to be sure...

Then again my cards a good deal

I really hate dealing with E-Bay but thats were i's going if i can't get it sold here

May 5, 2004, 11:06 PM	#1
foldingchair DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 54 Rep Power: 0	OEM, im still a little confused.. hey, i read a little about waht OEM means on newegg.com. But im still a little shakey about what it really means. I wanted to buy a Sapphire Radeon 9600XT from newegg, but its OEM instead of RETAIL. From what i read, i know that it has something to do with not having the original box, and some other things. But overall what is the difference between reatail and oem. Is there any performance differences? Thanks a lot. __________________ Signature Made by tastyweat (Thank you!)

May 5, 2004, 11:38 PM	#4
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	actually I have seen some differences in older and lower end hardware where OEM does have slower clock speeds, but nowadays OEM it's all the same. I never would buy a retail creative card because its stupid. The old rage fury pro had a diff in clock speeds ever so slightly but it wasn't a big deal __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

May 6, 2004, 12:14 AM	Thread Starter #9
foldingchair DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 54 Rep Power: 0	ok thanks, im not sure what the retail specs are, but here are the ones for the EOM one on newegg... Specifications: Chipset/Core Speed: ATI RADEON 9600XT/500MHz Memory/Effective Speed: 128MB DDR/650MHz BUS: AGP 1X/2X/4X/8X Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub)+TV-Out(S-Video Out)+DVI Connector Support 3D API: DirectX®9, OpenGL®2.0 Cable/Accessories: 1 Cable, PowerDVD, Driver CD Max Resolution@32bit Color: 2048X1536@85Hz http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...102-326&depa=0 Are they the same as retail? by the way, does this card come with the samsung memory? I heard that there is another kind and its not as good.. cant rememeber the name tho.. thanks all __________________ Signature Made by tastyweat (Thank you!)

May 6, 2004, 12:21 AM	Thread Starter #11
foldingchair DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 54 Rep Power: 0	well hl2 and warrenty would be nice, but newegg doesnt sell it retail do they? Do you think Fry's computers would have it retail with hl2 and a good warrenty for 150? __________________ Signature Made by tastyweat (Thank you!)

May 6, 2004, 01:24 AM	Thread Starter #18
foldingchair DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 54 Rep Power: 0	ok ill run up to frys and see what they have there, i dont obsolutaly need hl2, but it would be nice. If the EOM doesnt come with a dual monitor cable, or w/e it is, does anyone know where to buy em? I dont even know what they are called. Thanks __________________ Signature Made by tastyweat (Thank you!)

May 6, 2004, 12:59 AM	#17
Dom DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,940 Rep Power: 0	OD is nice, yes, but if you're an overclocker it's useless... No?

May 6, 2004, 01:27 AM	Thread Starter #19
foldingchair DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 54 Rep Power: 0	o dude thanks for that chart, i see now, but how do i tell which one it is? im looking at the newegg thing and i dont see any numbers.. __________________ Signature Made by tastyweat (Thank you!)