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BWX · Aug 6, 2006, 04:39 AM

Just keep double posting very 2 minutes.. That will help.. Oh wait, you already did.

CDsDontBurn · Aug 6, 2006, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BWX

Just keep double posting very 2 minutes.. That will help.. Oh wait, you already did.

whatcha talkin' about?

CDsDontBurn · Aug 6, 2006, 05:06 AM

oh you mean like this???

CDsDontBurn · Aug 6, 2006, 05:07 AM

but that was only 30 seconds!!!

CDsDontBurn · Aug 6, 2006, 05:07 AM

hehehe.....a triple post

CDsDontBurn · Aug 6, 2006, 05:09 AM

and this is my 5th post in a row

Dark Lord · Aug 6, 2006, 05:17 AM

oh i am definatly going fuel injection on the rebuild. doing a little reading and searching, and ive found a motor that does EXACTLY what i want.

meet the Ram Jet ZZ502 Crate Engine, straight from chevy.

Specifications

SDPC Part Number: 12499121
Manufacturer: GM Performance Parts
Horsepower : 510 @ 5500 RPM
Torque : 550 @ 4500 RPM
Compression Ratio : 9.6:1
Block : Gen VI Cast Iron, 4.468" Bore
Crankshaft : Forged Steel, 4.000"
Heads, Chamber Size : Aluminum Oval Port, 110cc
Valves (I/E) : 2.250" / 1.880"
Intake Manifold : Ram Jet Port Fuel Injection

i figured id be spending close to 10K to have a motor custom built to put out 500 HP/TQ, but this sucker puts out 510/550 and is under 9K.

going in a standard 15% drive train power loss, this will give me about 433.5 RWHP and 467.5RWTQ

that gives me an estimated times of...
1/8th mile 6.971
1/4 mile 10.978
@ 119.08MPH
0-60MPH in 2.6 seconds.

i know this is going to take a bit more clreance then my current hood allows, so ive already got that planned out too. im going to cut the big bulge out of my hood, add how ever much extra hight i need and reglass the bulge back in. im also going to cut a hole in the middle of the bulge, kinda like the how the current Z06's are for the ramjet. ill see if i can sketch something out with MS paint.

CDsDontBurn · Aug 6, 2006, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord

Heads, Chamber Size : Aluminum Oval Port, 110cc

this is one problem i'm finding w/that particular engine. well, not just that particular engine, but basically any engine that has both steel and aluminium components.

steel and aluminium both have different heat ranges. meaning that they expand and contract at different temperatures. how would that affect the long term affect of the engine?

Dark Lord · Aug 6, 2006, 05:23 AM

dont know, but every one ive heard from that has either the ZZ502 or the ramjet absolutly loves them

CDsDontBurn · Aug 6, 2006, 05:28 AM

well, i'm not saying that the power isn't great. from what you've posted, it's insanely awesome

. but i'm just saying that because the block and the heads are made of different materials, how will that affect the engine's longevity? will the heads/block crack due to the metals expanding and contracting at different times?

Dark Lord · Aug 6, 2006, 05:35 AM

like i said, wouldnt worry about it. GM designed and tested this sucker, so im sure they know what there doing.

now, forgive my MS paint bastardised photo, but i think you get some idea of what im going for with the hood. and yes, that will be like a small cowl also.

whenever this thing gets done, it will be cleaned up much more, and angled so it fits the shape and contours of the hood.

CDsDontBurn · Aug 6, 2006, 05:59 AM

your MS paint bastardized photo is excused

pr0digal jenius · Aug 6, 2006, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Lord

oh i am definatly going fuel injection on the rebuild. doing a little reading and searching, and ive found a motor that does EXACTLY what i want.

meet the Ram Jet ZZ502 Crate Engine, straight from chevy.

Specifications

SDPC Part Number: 12499121
Manufacturer: GM Performance Parts
Horsepower : 510 @ 5500 RPM
Torque : 550 @ 4500 RPM
Compression Ratio : 9.6:1
Block : Gen VI Cast Iron, 4.468" Bore
Crankshaft : Forged Steel, 4.000"
Heads, Chamber Size : Aluminum Oval Port, 110cc
Valves (I/E) : 2.250" / 1.880"
Intake Manifold : Ram Jet Port Fuel Injection

i figured id be spending close to 10K to have a motor custom built to put out 500 HP/TQ, but this sucker puts out 510/550 and is under 9K.

going in a standard 15% drive train power loss, this will give me about 433.5 RWHP and 467.5RWTQ

that gives me an estimated times of...
1/8th mile 6.971
1/4 mile 10.978
@ 119.08MPH
0-60MPH in 2.6 seconds.

i know this is going to take a bit more clreance then my current hood allows, so ive already got that planned out too. im going to cut the big bulge out of my hood, add how ever much extra hight i need and reglass the bulge back in. im also going to cut a hole in the middle of the bulge, kinda like the how the current Z06's are for the ramjet. ill see if i can sketch something out with MS paint.

http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/in...S&Category=443

Cha-Ching

You do realize you chose a $13,000 motor, right?

Dark Lord · Aug 6, 2006, 06:28 AM

damn, talk about a major mark up

http://www.sdpc2000.com/catalog/3509...e-Assembly.htm

8999.99 + 264.00 shipped to my door.

pr0digal jenius · Aug 6, 2006, 06:36 AM

heh, 9 grand for a motor is still a chunk, but yea...guess yer right about the markup

Dark Lord · Aug 6, 2006, 06:41 AM

ya it is.

when the time comes, ill have to seriously sit down and consider my options. see if the carbd 502 vs ramjet 502 is worth the price diffrence. see what a built 427 that puts out the same power would cost me from a local builder, so on and so forth. hell, maybe just pick up a crate LS2 and beef it up a bit. my planned budget for the complete rebulid is going to be some where around 40-45K. shell be one hell of a beast when its all done.

pr0digal jenius · Aug 6, 2006, 06:49 AM

if you don't require EFI, go with a 454...they're dirt cheap

http://www.high-performance-engines.com/ce13.html

Dark Lord · Aug 6, 2006, 06:52 AM

that motor is much cheaper, but it puts my RWHP below my target goal of 400RWHP minimum.

pr0digal jenius · Aug 6, 2006, 07:01 AM

nothing some forced induction wouldn't fix

you knwo you want a supercharged 454

or sell your house for a jetted 454 throwing down 510HP

http://www.high-performance-engines.com/ce20.html

Dark Lord · Aug 6, 2006, 07:11 AM

heh, i can do better.

http://www.sdpc2000.com/catalog/3449...ate-Engine.htm

ZZ572 @ 620HP/TQ

now if they just came out with a ramjet 572...

BWX · Aug 6, 2006, 07:18 AM

Seems like you should put that money into the rest of the car first.. that thing needs a lot of work doesn't it?

Dark Lord · Aug 6, 2006, 07:22 AM

it most certainly does.

its all just future planning for the day it eventually happens. im going with a brand new frame, all high end suspension, tranny, motor, etc. when im done, its basicly going to be a 69 vette body sitting on an almost exotic car.

CDsDontBurn · Aug 6, 2006, 09:46 AM

so, how do you plan on paying for all that though?

Dark Lord · Aug 6, 2006, 09:58 AM

im actually starting to look for real work. ive been saveing cash from my part time for the last several years now. what ive got saved up is a start, but no where near enough to even think about starting a frame off.

**dj_stick** · Aug 8, 2006, 01:10 PM

CDsDontBurn · Aug 8, 2006, 06:45 PM

HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH

that's worth saving

Dark Lord · Aug 9, 2006, 01:25 AM

i spent almost 5 hours cleaning the vette today

before

during

after

Dark Lord · Aug 9, 2006, 01:36 AM

Interior

Before

After

Other misc. pics.

CDsDontBurn · Aug 9, 2006, 04:35 AM

not too shabby

pr0digal jenius · Aug 9, 2006, 06:18 AM

get it some interior panelling [black leather *cough*] and it'll be all set

Aug 6, 2006, 04:39 AM	#3061
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	Just keep double posting very 2 minutes.. That will help.. Oh wait, you already did. __________________

Aug 6, 2006, 05:06 AM	#3063
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	oh you mean like this??? __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Aug 6, 2006, 05:07 AM	#3064
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	but that was only 30 seconds!!! __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Aug 6, 2006, 05:07 AM	#3065
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	hehehe.....a triple post __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Aug 6, 2006, 05:09 AM	#3066
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	and this is my 5th post in a row __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Aug 6, 2006, 05:17 AM	#3067
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	oh i am definatly going fuel injection on the rebuild. doing a little reading and searching, and ive found a motor that does EXACTLY what i want. meet the Ram Jet ZZ502 Crate Engine, straight from chevy. Specifications SDPC Part Number: 12499121 Manufacturer: GM Performance Parts Horsepower : 510 @ 5500 RPM Torque : 550 @ 4500 RPM Compression Ratio : 9.6:1 Block : Gen VI Cast Iron, 4.468" Bore Crankshaft : Forged Steel, 4.000" Heads, Chamber Size : Aluminum Oval Port, 110cc Valves (I/E) : 2.250" / 1.880" Intake Manifold : Ram Jet Port Fuel Injection i figured id be spending close to 10K to have a motor custom built to put out 500 HP/TQ, but this sucker puts out 510/550 and is under 9K. going in a standard 15% drive train power loss, this will give me about 433.5 RWHP and 467.5RWTQ that gives me an estimated times of... 1/8th mile 6.971 1/4 mile 10.978 @ 119.08MPH 0-60MPH in 2.6 seconds. i know this is going to take a bit more clreance then my current hood allows, so ive already got that planned out too. im going to cut the big bulge out of my hood, add how ever much extra hight i need and reglass the bulge back in. im also going to cut a hole in the middle of the bulge, kinda like the how the current Z06's are for the ramjet. ill see if i can sketch something out with MS paint. __________________

Aug 6, 2006, 05:23 AM	#3069
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	dont know, but every one ive heard from that has either the ZZ502 or the ramjet absolutly loves them __________________

Aug 6, 2006, 05:28 AM	#3070
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	well, i'm not saying that the power isn't great. from what you've posted, it's insanely awesome . but i'm just saying that because the block and the heads are made of different materials, how will that affect the engine's longevity? will the heads/block crack due to the metals expanding and contracting at different times? __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Aug 6, 2006, 05:35 AM	#3071
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	like i said, wouldnt worry about it. GM designed and tested this sucker, so im sure they know what there doing. now, forgive my MS paint bastardised photo, but i think you get some idea of what im going for with the hood. and yes, that will be like a small cowl also. whenever this thing gets done, it will be cleaned up much more, and angled so it fits the shape and contours of the hood. __________________

Aug 6, 2006, 05:59 AM	#3072
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	your MS paint bastardized photo is excused __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Aug 6, 2006, 06:28 AM	#3074
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	damn, talk about a major mark up http://www.sdpc2000.com/catalog/3509...e-Assembly.htm 8999.99 + 264.00 shipped to my door. __________________

Aug 6, 2006, 06:36 AM	#3075
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	heh, 9 grand for a motor is still a chunk, but yea...guess yer right about the markup

Aug 6, 2006, 06:41 AM	#3076
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	ya it is. when the time comes, ill have to seriously sit down and consider my options. see if the carbd 502 vs ramjet 502 is worth the price diffrence. see what a built 427 that puts out the same power would cost me from a local builder, so on and so forth. hell, maybe just pick up a crate LS2 and beef it up a bit. my planned budget for the complete rebulid is going to be some where around 40-45K. shell be one hell of a beast when its all done. __________________

Aug 6, 2006, 06:49 AM	#3077
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	if you don't require EFI, go with a 454...they're dirt cheap http://www.high-performance-engines.com/ce13.html

Aug 6, 2006, 06:52 AM	#3078
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	that motor is much cheaper, but it puts my RWHP below my target goal of 400RWHP minimum. __________________

Aug 6, 2006, 07:01 AM	#3079
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	nothing some forced induction wouldn't fix you knwo you want a supercharged 454 or sell your house for a jetted 454 throwing down 510HP http://www.high-performance-engines.com/ce20.html

Aug 6, 2006, 07:11 AM	#3080
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	heh, i can do better. http://www.sdpc2000.com/catalog/3449...ate-Engine.htm ZZ572 @ 620HP/TQ now if they just came out with a ramjet 572... __________________

Aug 6, 2006, 07:18 AM	#3081
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	Seems like you should put that money into the rest of the car first.. that thing needs a lot of work doesn't it? __________________

Aug 6, 2006, 07:22 AM	#3082
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	it most certainly does. its all just future planning for the day it eventually happens. im going with a brand new frame, all high end suspension, tranny, motor, etc. when im done, its basicly going to be a 69 vette body sitting on an almost exotic car. __________________

Aug 6, 2006, 09:46 AM	#3083
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	so, how do you plan on paying for all that though? __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Aug 6, 2006, 09:58 AM	#3084
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	im actually starting to look for real work. ive been saveing cash from my part time for the last several years now. what ive got saved up is a start, but no where near enough to even think about starting a frame off. __________________

Aug 8, 2006, 06:45 PM	#3086
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH that's worth saving __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Aug 9, 2006, 01:25 AM	#3087
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	i spent almost 5 hours cleaning the vette today before during after __________________ Last edited by Dark Lord; Aug 9, 2006 at 01:30 AM.

Aug 9, 2006, 01:36 AM	#3088
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	Interior Before After Other misc. pics. __________________

Aug 9, 2006, 04:35 AM	#3089
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	not too shabby __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Aug 9, 2006, 06:18 AM	#3090
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	get it some interior panelling [black leather cough] and it'll be all set