I Need Car Advice

JavaFox · Nov 20, 2002, 09:39 PM

Hey, guys, listen, I'm going to buy a car soon and I need some advice about which to go with. I'm not a big car enthusiast or anything, but I would like something that's fast and powerful. I don't have that much money but I will spend what it takes to get a good automobile. I just need your opinions.

Now, I know everybody has their predispositions about car manufacturers so I'm just going to refer to the two models as the "Phoenix" and the "Raven" -- just to keep you guys objective.

Okay, the Phoenix is a pretty nice car. It goes from 0-60 in 3.5 seconds, and is 255HP. And it's an efficient car, at that -- 38 miles to the gallon. The thing is, the manufacturer doesn't have that much of a reputation... a lot of people don't even know about this company. However, I know a lot of people that have owned Phoenixes, and nobody has had anything bad to say about the cars. In fact, I've owned some of the older Phoenixes and I never had a problem. And a lot of the parts are interchangable with older Phoenixes! The car is $40,000.

The Raven is also a pretty nice car. It goes from 0-60 in 3.2 seconds, and is 275HP. It's not a very fuel-efficient car, though; it only gets 20 miles to the gallon. Although I've never owned one, the manufacturer is trusted by everyone -- even though they've put out some pretty bad cars in the past. It's got some advanced features, though. For example, if you push the engine too hard, it will automatically slow itself down to cool off. I test drove it and --sure enough!-- when I hit 140MPH, the car started slowing down all by itself. Soon I was crusin' at 60MPH. Neat, huh? This model has parts that are specific to it -- so I can't ever change out my engine or tires without getting a new Raven. It costs $85,000.

I'm really torn -- which should I go with, guys?

Ryoko · Nov 20, 2002, 09:44 PM

nice try.

Zardon · Nov 20, 2002, 10:22 PM

the old AMD v Intel analogy again?

~~David~~ · Nov 20, 2002, 10:24 PM

first of all your cars are bs only proche 911 turbo does 0-60 in 3.2 secs and its fastest car made from 0-60 so stop the bs

Zardon · Nov 20, 2002, 10:25 PM

id ditch both of them and get a new Rev b Yamaha R1 with a 0.13 core, good for overclocking as well.

fornicatarachnid · Nov 20, 2002, 10:38 PM

Forget that American crap, buy yourself a REAL car, not a toy

skastel · Nov 20, 2002, 11:42 PM

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Originally posted by fornicatarachnid
Forget that American crap, buy yourself a REAL car, not a toy

Cause a '69 Nova SS witha 454 stroker is for whimps right?

sinjin · Nov 20, 2002, 11:47 PM

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Originally posted by JavaFox
I'm really torn -- which should I go with, guys?

go with the lord...this is what the baby j would drive

DriveEuro · Nov 20, 2002, 11:54 PM

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Originally posted by David
first of all your cars are bs only proche 911 turbo does 0-60 in 3.2 secs and its fastest car made from 0-60 so stop the bs

I guess you don't know anything about the new Twin Turbo Ligenfelder Corvette do you? 1.9 second 0-60 with slicks...Granted this isn't a car forum....but really...go find out some stuff about cars.... www.supercars.net www.supercarsite.net

Jeff · Nov 21, 2002, 12:03 AM

i think we were talking stock cars, but, that corvette rocks, saw it on speed the one time

Ryoko · Nov 21, 2002, 12:04 AM

the venom 800tt does a 2.4sec 0-60 and a 9.92 1/4 mi... and tops out at 231mph

Jeff · Nov 21, 2002, 12:06 AM

what's it get for gas milage?

fornicatarachnid · Nov 21, 2002, 12:25 AM

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Originally posted by skastel
Cause a '69 Nova SS witha 454 stroker is for whimps right?

Sorry skastel but that is one ugly looking motor

'69 Nova SS

fornicatarachnid · Nov 21, 2002, 12:26 AM

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Originally posted by Cyborg
what's it get for gas milage?

Who cares !!

Ryoko · Nov 21, 2002, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cyborg
what's it get for gas milage?

12mpg i believe...

Ryoko · Nov 21, 2002, 12:31 AM

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Originally posted by fornicatarachnid
Who cares !!

exactly... if i was going to spend $165,000 on a car, and $3,000 a month on insurance, i wouldn't care!

fornicatarachnid · Nov 21, 2002, 12:35 AM

Yep, cars like that are made for speed and excitement, not counting the pennies every time you fill it up.

Kelsenellenelvian · Nov 21, 2002, 12:47 AM

Awww just go by a pacer..

sinjin · Nov 21, 2002, 12:50 AM

go with the baby j monster truck.

JavaFox · Nov 21, 2002, 01:12 AM

I guess not many people caught on to the fact that this thread isn't really about cars.. :P

fornicatarachnid · Nov 21, 2002, 01:19 AM

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Originally posted by JavaFox
I guess not many people caught on to the fact that this thread isn't really about cars.. :P

Guess people would rather talk about cars than CPU's again eh

Jav ?

Renegade[CSR] · Nov 21, 2002, 01:30 AM

Phoenix is my personal favourite. You can't beat the price/speed ratio and dont forget about its compatibility!

The Raven is just too expensive and not worth the trouble. It is rated at a faster speed, but it just isnt worth the extra money. I dont want to keep buying new engines and frames for this thing.

Through this analysis, I would definately go with the Phoenix

Shaith · Nov 21, 2002, 02:36 AM

Try the McLaren F1 . As of November 20, 2002, it's STILL the fastest production automobile in the world.

Shaith · Nov 21, 2002, 02:37 AM

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Originally posted by David
first of all your cars are bs only proche 911 turbo does 0-60 in 3.2 secs and its fastest car made from 0-60 so stop the bs

See post re: McLaren.

DriveEuro · Nov 21, 2002, 04:41 AM

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Originally posted by Shaith
Try the McLaren F1 . As of November 20, 2002, it's STILL the fastest production automobile in the world.

Well I guess you need to learn more about cars.....2002 Bugatti 16/4 Veyron would hold this new record of 406 kph / 252.3 mph. And a 0-60 in 3.0 seconds...Thanks...Oh and, lets look at this:

You cannot define a car as fast....You have to explain...Fastest top end.....the Buggati.....fastest 0-60, Ligenfelder Covette Twin Turbo.....1/4 mile...i dunno.....but see? You have to define yourselves.

DriveEuro · Nov 21, 2002, 07:06 AM

I can't remember offhand, but I believe that the Lamborghini Murcielgo has a higher top end speed than the McLaren....oh and all you "car people think you know it alls" it's actually the McLaren F1 LM that holds the record...the car models are different... Well neverthelss, I think that the Lambo also tops the McLaren...Since I'm on 56k I can't afford to wait like 5 minutes to wait for the pages to load...I need sleep...

merry · Nov 21, 2002, 09:14 AM

How about this ?

Wonder why they forbid cars like this in most places

skastel · Nov 21, 2002, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fornicatarachnid
Sorry skastel but that is one ugly looking motor

'69 Nova SS

Eh, I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Here's the 66 incarnation of the beast: link

fornicatarachnid · Nov 21, 2002, 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by skastel
Eh, I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

It must be

reno · Nov 21, 2002, 04:07 PM

honda

Nov 20, 2002, 09:39 PM	#1
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	I Need Car Advice Hey, guys, listen, I'm going to buy a car soon and I need some advice about which to go with. I'm not a big car enthusiast or anything, but I would like something that's fast and powerful. I don't have that much money but I will spend what it takes to get a good automobile. I just need your opinions. Now, I know everybody has their predispositions about car manufacturers so I'm just going to refer to the two models as the "Phoenix" and the "Raven" -- just to keep you guys objective. Okay, the Phoenix is a pretty nice car. It goes from 0-60 in 3.5 seconds, and is 255HP. And it's an efficient car, at that -- 38 miles to the gallon. The thing is, the manufacturer doesn't have that much of a reputation... a lot of people don't even know about this company. However, I know a lot of people that have owned Phoenixes, and nobody has had anything bad to say about the cars. In fact, I've owned some of the older Phoenixes and I never had a problem. And a lot of the parts are interchangable with older Phoenixes! The car is $40,000. The Raven is also a pretty nice car. It goes from 0-60 in 3.2 seconds, and is 275HP. It's not a very fuel-efficient car, though; it only gets 20 miles to the gallon. Although I've never owned one, the manufacturer is trusted by everyone -- even though they've put out some pretty bad cars in the past. It's got some advanced features, though. For example, if you push the engine too hard, it will automatically slow itself down to cool off. I test drove it and --sure enough!-- when I hit 140MPH, the car started slowing down all by itself. Soon I was crusin' at 60MPH. Neat, huh? This model has parts that are specific to it -- so I can't ever change out my engine or tires without getting a new Raven. It costs $85,000. I'm really torn -- which should I go with, guys?

Nov 21, 2002, 12:03 AM	#10
Jeff Yarr... I be blind! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 3,191 Rep Power: 80	i think we were talking stock cars, but, that corvette rocks, saw it on speed the one time __________________

Nov 21, 2002, 12:06 AM	#12
Jeff Yarr... I be blind! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 3,191 Rep Power: 80	what's it get for gas milage? __________________

Nov 21, 2002, 12:47 AM	#18
Kelsenellenelvian Master of my own Destiny Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: EverDawn Kingdom,TruEarth Posts: 1,394 Rep Power: 0	Awww just go by a pacer.. __________________ [color=#0000ff] Download Windows Post-Install Wizard v4.3.8 and WPI Lite v1.2 Here [/color][color=red][color=blue][/color][/color]

Nov 21, 2002, 12:50 AM	#19
sinjin the last samurai Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,086 Rep Power: 0	go with the baby j monster truck. __________________

Nov 20, 2002, 09:44 PM	#2
Ryoko American Soldier Join Date: May 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 1,725 Rep Power: 0	nice try.

Nov 20, 2002, 10:22 PM	#3
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	the old AMD v Intel analogy again?

Nov 20, 2002, 10:24 PM	#4
~~David~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 959 Rep Power: 0	first of all your cars are bs only proche 911 turbo does 0-60 in 3.2 secs and its fastest car made from 0-60 so stop the bs

Nov 20, 2002, 10:25 PM	#5
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	id ditch both of them and get a new Rev b Yamaha R1 with a 0.13 core, good for overclocking as well.

Nov 20, 2002, 10:38 PM	#6
fornicatarachnid Clanless Join Date: May 2002 Location: On the web, England UK Posts: 714 Rep Power: 0	Forget that American crap, buy yourself a REAL car, not a toy

Nov 21, 2002, 12:04 AM	#11
Ryoko American Soldier Join Date: May 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 1,725 Rep Power: 0	the venom 800tt does a 2.4sec 0-60 and a 9.92 1/4 mi... and tops out at 231mph

Nov 21, 2002, 12:35 AM	#17
fornicatarachnid Clanless Join Date: May 2002 Location: On the web, England UK Posts: 714 Rep Power: 0	Yep, cars like that are made for speed and excitement, not counting the pennies every time you fill it up.

Nov 21, 2002, 01:12 AM	Thread Starter #20
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	I guess not many people caught on to the fact that this thread isn't really about cars.. :P

Nov 21, 2002, 01:30 AM	#22
Renegade[CSR] DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Undisclosed Renegade Location Posts: 396 Rep Power: 0	Phoenix is my personal favourite. You can't beat the price/speed ratio and dont forget about its compatibility! The Raven is just too expensive and not worth the trouble. It is rated at a faster speed, but it just isnt worth the extra money. I dont want to keep buying new engines and frames for this thing. Through this analysis, I would definately go with the Phoenix

Nov 21, 2002, 02:36 AM	#23
Shaith HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 916 Rep Power: 0	Try the McLaren F1 . As of November 20, 2002, it's STILL the fastest production automobile in the world.

Nov 21, 2002, 07:06 AM	#26
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Lamboghini Murcielgo I can't remember offhand, but I believe that the Lamborghini Murcielgo has a higher top end speed than the McLaren....oh and all you "car people think you know it alls" it's actually the McLaren F1 LM that holds the record...the car models are different... Well neverthelss, I think that the Lambo also tops the McLaren...Since I'm on 56k I can't afford to wait like 5 minutes to wait for the pages to load...I need sleep... __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Nov 21, 2002, 09:14 AM	#27
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Nov 21, 2002, 04:07 PM	#30
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