AGEIA Responds To ATI's Triple Play

Vikingod · Jun 9, 2006, 11:59 AM

Source: DailyTech
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Earlier this week at Computex, DailyTech reported that ATI officially announces its solution to physics processing. Called Triple Play, ATI's solution depends on three Radeon X1K series cards, two of which operate in CrossFire mode while a third card is configured for physics processing. The solution says ATI, uses the raw gigaflop performance of the Radeon X1K series to process physics, but users are concerned at the approach. The fact that customers are forced to buy three ATI boards ended up being questionable for many users as costs quickly escalate.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jun 9, 2006, 12:12 PM

actually you only need "two cards" one for grahics one for th PPU work and you can mix
and match. and at at $299- price point twice was expected @ $149 agieas soultion
makes te LEAST siencewhen it coms to speding your $$$ Now that you get a better value
from ATI & NV soultions. If only they hadn't delyied release

Sandok · Jun 9, 2006, 12:41 PM

I'd rather buy AGIA then stuff the loudest ATI cards to use even more power!

Judas · Jun 9, 2006, 04:53 PM

....x1600 isn't loud

And i don't find the x1900 loud either.. (must be if you live in an apparently already hot area.? )...

in either case.... current boards would be quite good already, as 2x pci-ex 16x is available.. and running a x1900xtx and a similare or other x1k card would still work wonderfully.

BWX · Jun 9, 2006, 05:30 PM

I like this quote:

Quote:

According to AGEIA, measuring the performance of physics processing by simply looking at the number of gigaflops in a GPU is analogous to saying that "the more wheels I have on my car, the faster I will go."

Even though everything I have seen in REAL games is questionable for AGEIA.. I like that concept much better. The demos look cool, but of course we have seen no games that offer anything like the demos we saw. The only thing we have seen is a game that adds a few extra particles in explosions and makes the game go slower.. That really sucks. AGEIA need to give a higher performing solution for less money and have more games support it if they are to survive.

~~Alien1~~ · Jun 9, 2006, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

And i don't find the x1900 loud either..

I do not know about your system but it is very loud when you play stressfull games

Judas · Jun 9, 2006, 06:18 PM

i play very stressful games...

ROBSCIX · Jun 9, 2006, 06:35 PM

That's quite the approach though. I like the fact that ATI and Nvidia are being forced to direct their attentions to the Physics side of gaming. I just hope they don't muscle out the little guy..

BWX · Jun 9, 2006, 07:40 PM

Seems like that is what they want to do though.

Sandok · Jun 9, 2006, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

....x1600 isn't loud

And i don't find the x1900 loud either.. (must be if you live in an apparently already hot area.? )...

in either case.... current boards would be quite good already, as 2x pci-ex 16x is available.. and running a x1900xtx and a similare or other x1k card would still work wonderfully.

I live in a normally tempartured place... A 7900GTX system is still 5db quieter than a X1900XTX system and really, there was even a vid...

The loudest thing in my system is my HDD and I already find that too loud so we really don't have teh same "acceptation" of noise.

And the X1600XT is known to be REALLY too loud... Every review about it says it (cept the HIS iceQ versions or heatpipe silent versions)

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jun 9, 2006, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWX

I like this quote:

[qoute]
According to AGEIA, measuring the performance of physics processing by simply looking at the number of gigaflops in a GPU is analogous to saying that "the more wheels I have on my car, the faster I will go."

Even though everything I have seen in REAL games is questionable for AGEIA.. I like that concept much better. The demos look cool, but of course we have seen no games that offer anything like the demos we saw. The only thing we have seen is a game that adds a few extra particles in explosions and makes the game go slower.. That really sucks. AGEIA need to give a higher performing solution for less money and have more games support it if they are to survive.[/quote]

It's a bad annoligy here is the correct annolighy

Quote:

According to AGEIA, measuring the performance of physics processing by simply looking at the number of gigaflops in a GPU is analogous to saying that "the more horsepower I have in my race car, the faster It will go."

wich make since ... I know they tried to make it retorical... But the NV and ATI gpu
can do more then thier unit. Sorry.... Ex... V3 Duao wit thiert clock rates and dual
gpu can barly touch a 9800 last i checked. Why? AT and NV arent the new kids on
the block what they have now is the result of decades in the bussiness. Just like
cyrix CPU's will never equil th power of AMD or intel CPUs . Nither will agias equil
anything NV or ati can pump out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alien1

I do not know about your system but it is very loud when you play stressfull games

In the last month i've gamed about 131 hours, and my X1900 is still not loud

could be the proper cooling or that its a buildt by aTI. As 3rd partys are free to
use what thy please as cooling. The X1600XT I have also is near silent.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROBSCIX

That's quite the approach though. I like the fact that ATI and Nvidia are being forced to direct their attentions to the Physics side of gaming. I just hope they don't muscle out the little guy..

6 months late and 2X the expected street price yea the big boys
are going to rip them a new one...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandok

I live in a normally tempartured place... A 7900GTX system is still 5db quieter than a X1900XTX system and really, there was even a vid...

The loudest thing in my system is my HDD and I already find that too loud so we really don't have teh same "acceptation" of noise.

And the X1600XT is known to be REALLY too loud... Every review about it says it (cept the HIS iceQ versions or heatpipe silent versions)

I have a 1600XT and X1900XT thier both not load at all in fact the louded fan is the stock AMD fan wich last i checked is 30-34 DB wich is considerd the norm for a 80mm fan.

Judas · Jun 10, 2006, 12:38 AM

i've played with 3 1900xtx's (all built by ati... the way i like it, or saphire which usually doesn't stray AT ALL from the orginal)..

I've had 2 x1600's.... a x1300

i've had my entire hands full of various ranges of ati cards... all either built by ati or saphire.. I personally find that any other maker seems to either screw around with the reference.. getting a smidge more performance but then resulting in something else happening... like noise.

right now i have a machine in that a guy got a HIS x800 gto, the fan does nothing but constantly spin up and down and up again while any form of 3D is happening..... it doesn't seem to keep a steady spin speed.... why? not sure.. but i know my built by ati x800 doesn't do that.

Jun 9, 2006, 11:59 AM	#1
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,197 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	AGEIA Responds To ATI's Triple Play Source: DailyTech ____________ Earlier this week at Computex, DailyTech reported that ATI officially announces its solution to physics processing. Called Triple Play, ATI's solution depends on three Radeon X1K series cards, two of which operate in CrossFire mode while a third card is configured for physics processing. The solution says ATI, uses the raw gigaflop performance of the Radeon X1K series to process physics, but users are concerned at the approach. The fact that customers are forced to buy three ATI boards ended up being questionable for many users as costs quickly escalate.

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The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	actually you only need "two cards" one for grahics one for th PPU work and you can mix and match. and at at $299- price point twice was expected @ $149 agieas soultion makes te LEAST siencewhen it coms to speding your $$$ Now that you get a better value from ATI & NV soultions. If only they hadn't delyied release __________________

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BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	Seems like that is what they want to do though. __________________

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Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	I'd rather buy AGIA then stuff the loudest ATI cards to use even more power!

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ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	That's quite the approach though. I like the fact that ATI and Nvidia are being forced to direct their attentions to the Physics side of gaming. I just hope they don't muscle out the little guy..