Next Windows leaks onto Net

ToshiroOC · Mar 5, 2003, 01:33 PM

An early test version of the next major release of Microsoft Windows has been leaked onto the Net, offering a glimpse of the companyâ€™s plans for the new software.

The leaked version of the upcoming desktop operating system, code-named Longhorn, hints of major changes under the Windows hood, as Microsoft radically improves file management and searching features in Windows and in Yukon, the code-name for the next version of SQL Server, due out later this year.

In Longhorn, Microsoft plans to introduce a new file system with enhanced storage capabilities. Known as Windows Future Storage (WinFS), the new means for storing, accessing or indexing files will replace NTFS and FAT32, the predecessors used by Windows XP. The file system is intended to make it easier to find information, no matter where it is stored or in what form.

Microsoft did not identify the source of the leak, which is still circulating on the Web and on Internet relay chat. But Jim Cullinan, Microsoft Windows lead product manager, said the leaked version of Longhorn is authentic. Cullinan declined to discuss features of the new operating system, saying that "it's just too early" to discuss features that could "change dramatically before the final product is done."

For Microsoft, creating a new file system, particularly one using modern database technology, is no easy undertaking. The work in progress will be important in prepping Longhorn for its scheduled late 2004 release, say analysts.

--Source: News.com (CNET)

Article can be read here.

DriveEuro · Mar 5, 2003, 04:13 PM

Is this talking about the one that was leaked like 4 months ago? Or was it the leak from 1 month ago??

Saint_K · Mar 5, 2003, 04:17 PM

leaked few days ago build 4008

MSX · Mar 5, 2003, 07:22 PM

Hmm, weird how there was no mini press release about the last one. Or was ther and I just missed it?

brc64 · Mar 5, 2003, 07:55 PM

I'm an official beta tester for 2003, but I haven't really kept up with the releases. The first one I tried was kinda neat and all, but I just couldn't stay away from my XP install, so I went back. I need another computer to test 2003 on besides my main machine.

- Me

Vampyromaniac · Mar 5, 2003, 08:32 PM

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Originally posted by ToshiroOC
In Longhorn, Microsoft plans to introduce a new file system with enhanced storage capabilities. Known as Windows Future Storage (WinFS), the new means for storing, accessing or indexing files will replace NTFS and FAT32, the predecessors used by Windows XP. The file system is intended to make it easier to find information, no matter where it is stored or in what form.

Someone please explain this to me.

"easier to find information, no matter where it is stored or in what form" just how many forms can "information" be stored in? There's folders and files . . . wtf is WinFS gonna help me find that Win98's Find Files doesn't??
And "new means for storing, accessing or indexing files" sounds like more overhead, less performance to me

I think they are using big words to try to make the OS sound more special than it is

No_Style · Mar 5, 2003, 09:07 PM

Microsoft wanted this to leak out

Lead Manager did say it was authentic.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Mar 5, 2003, 09:09 PM

I'd like to get my hands on it, but can't find it!-darn oh well so far it looks like a hyped up version of xp

-={420}=- · Mar 5, 2003, 09:47 PM

...cough...i.may.have.some.info...cough...on...whe re.to.get.it...(clears throat)
........(takes another hit).....PM...me....cough...cough....

ToshiroOC · Mar 5, 2003, 11:50 PM

I think they are just doing the whole filesystem organizational system more like an indexed and easily searched database instead of whatever it is now, but I don't quite understand it either... hopefully there will be a few whitepapers on the subject in a couple of years

-={420}=- · Mar 6, 2003, 01:58 AM

Can anyone tell me 100% accurate instructions on how to install longhorn on a second hard drive having Windows XP on the first?

ivan300 · Mar 6, 2003, 02:15 AM

here is what u can do 420 get drive image (COUGH.PM.COUGH.ME.IF.U.NEED.IT.COUGH) its 2 floppies and make an image of the windows drive put it on a different parition install longhorn and when u get tired f it go back
thats what i do when i instal linux

why is this such a big deal. every version of windows was released months before stores and all the betas and alphas. i think ppl like us are M$'s real beta testers lol

Saint_K · Mar 6, 2003, 12:07 PM

Its so damn easy, just go in winxp, start LH setup, say him u want use the second partition! (and dont get confiused, your LH will set ur second partition as first in LH, but in XP its still the pther way around)

-={420}=- · Mar 6, 2003, 08:05 PM

I want to install LongHorn on a second hard drive, not a second partition. Does it just let me select the drive I want to install on during setup?

nForcer · Mar 6, 2003, 09:36 PM

In a word - yes

-={420}=- · Mar 6, 2003, 10:20 PM

Can you be more specific, I really don't wanna mess up my computer. I'm so tired of formatting. I must have done it at least 30 times - not exaggerating, probably even more.

Mar 7, 2003, 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by -={420}=-
Can you be more specific, I really don't wanna mess up my computer. I'm so tired of formatting. I must have done it at least 30 times - not exaggerating, probably even more.

Just choose your new drive during setup, and install there, the bootloader will ask you which partition to boot to everytime you start up your computer (in the form of winxp or windows longhorn). This is the way NT - XP has been, I image longhorn wouldn't be any different even though I have not tried it myself. If you manage to screw that up just yank your new drive out, boot off the xp cd into recovery console and run FIXMBR and FIXBOOT and you'll be saved. The MBR and boot.ini is where it all goes down, not a big deal to fix.

Mar 5, 2003, 01:33 PM	#1
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Next Windows leaks onto Net An early test version of the next major release of Microsoft Windows has been leaked onto the Net, offering a glimpse of the companyâ€™s plans for the new software. The leaked version of the upcoming desktop operating system, code-named Longhorn, hints of major changes under the Windows hood, as Microsoft radically improves file management and searching features in Windows and in Yukon, the code-name for the next version of SQL Server, due out later this year. In Longhorn, Microsoft plans to introduce a new file system with enhanced storage capabilities. Known as Windows Future Storage (WinFS), the new means for storing, accessing or indexing files will replace NTFS and FAT32, the predecessors used by Windows XP. The file system is intended to make it easier to find information, no matter where it is stored or in what form. Microsoft did not identify the source of the leak, which is still circulating on the Web and on Internet relay chat. But Jim Cullinan, Microsoft Windows lead product manager, said the leaked version of Longhorn is authentic. Cullinan declined to discuss features of the new operating system, saying that "it's just too early" to discuss features that could "change dramatically before the final product is done." For Microsoft, creating a new file system, particularly one using modern database technology, is no easy undertaking. The work in progress will be important in prepping Longhorn for its scheduled late 2004 release, say analysts. --Source: News.com (CNET) Article can be read here.

Mar 5, 2003, 04:13 PM	#2
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No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	Sounds like.. Microsoft wanted this to leak out Lead Manager did say it was authentic. __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here

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The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	I'd like to get my hands on it, but can't find it!-darn oh well so far it looks like a hyped up version of xp __________________

Mar 5, 2003, 09:47 PM	#9
-={420}=- DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,095 Rep Power: 0	...cough...i.may.have.some.info...cough...on...whe re.to.get.it...(clears throat) ........(takes another hit).....PM...me....cough...cough.... __________________ [COLOR=red]My eBay Auctions[/COLOR]

Mar 5, 2003, 04:17 PM	#3
Saint_K InSaNe Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Den haag, netherlands Posts: 836 Rep Power: 0	leaked few days ago build 4008

Mar 5, 2003, 07:22 PM	#4
MSX Burning the frozen... Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,201 Rep Power: 0	Hmm, weird how there was no mini press release about the last one. Or was ther and I just missed it?

Mar 5, 2003, 07:55 PM	#5
brc64 Zeeky H. Bomb Join Date: May 2002 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 826 Rep Power: 0	I'm an official beta tester for 2003, but I haven't really kept up with the releases. The first one I tried was kinda neat and all, but I just couldn't stay away from my XP install, so I went back. I need another computer to test 2003 on besides my main machine. - Me

Mar 5, 2003, 11:50 PM	Thread Starter #10
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	I think they are just doing the whole filesystem organizational system more like an indexed and easily searched database instead of whatever it is now, but I don't quite understand it either... hopefully there will be a few whitepapers on the subject in a couple of years __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Mar 6, 2003, 01:58 AM	#11
-={420}=- DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,095 Rep Power: 0	Can anyone tell me 100% accurate instructions on how to install longhorn on a second hard drive having Windows XP on the first? __________________ [COLOR=red]My eBay Auctions[/COLOR]

Mar 6, 2003, 02:15 AM	#12
ivan300 Booooo Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Vancouver Bc Posts: 236 Rep Power: 0	here is what u can do 420 get drive image (COUGH.PM.COUGH.ME.IF.U.NEED.IT.COUGH) its 2 floppies and make an image of the windows drive put it on a different parition install longhorn and when u get tired f it go back thats what i do when i instal linux why is this such a big deal. every version of windows was released months before stores and all the betas and alphas. i think ppl like us are M$'s real beta testers lol

Mar 6, 2003, 12:07 PM	#13
Saint_K InSaNe Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Den haag, netherlands Posts: 836 Rep Power: 0	Its so damn easy, just go in winxp, start LH setup, say him u want use the second partition! (and dont get confiused, your LH will set ur second partition as first in LH, but in XP its still the pther way around)

Mar 6, 2003, 08:05 PM	#14
-={420}=- DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,095 Rep Power: 0	I want to install LongHorn on a second hard drive, not a second partition. Does it just let me select the drive I want to install on during setup? __________________ [COLOR=red]My eBay Auctions[/COLOR]

Mar 6, 2003, 09:36 PM	#15
nForcer Twice the fun! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,404 Rep Power: 0	In a word - yes

Mar 6, 2003, 10:20 PM	#16
-={420}=- DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,095 Rep Power: 0	Can you be more specific, I really don't wanna mess up my computer. I'm so tired of formatting. I must have done it at least 30 times - not exaggerating, probably even more. __________________ [COLOR=red]My eBay Auctions[/COLOR]