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Source: TG Daily
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Burbank (CA) - Despite a vast marketing campaign from the HD DVD camp for the multi-format release of 300, the Blu-ray version has dominated sales of the Warner Bros title.

According to digital entertainment tracker Home Media Magazine, the Blu-ray version of 300 outsold the HD DVD version of the same movie by a ratio of "nearly 2 to 1."

calidan

This just shows that the PS3 does play a role in the Blu-ray sales.

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Necrosis

Exactly, sad for us who never had one..never will.

Judas

BR-DVD player comin on down in price.....

gimme gimme panasonic BR-DVD player

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Matth

300 also stands as the most requested DVD rental from Netflix.

And how many sales on conventional DVD?

The winning format, at the current time, I would guess is still plain old DVD, by a landslide, and with DVD recorders replacing VCR, appetite for an expensive playback only system may be limited to to the home cinema, rather than feeding the HD-ready inputs on the current generation of LCD TVs.

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mike2h

dvd is NOT part of the competition for the format to replace it. .
dvd recorders are not replacing vcrs, dvrs are. very few people are buying stand alone dvd players. there really isnt much need for them with the dvr & tivo especially.
i do agree with your implication that hd format wont be mainstream for quite awhile. heck, dvd only became THE mainstream format in the last year or so.
right now cost factors for bd are about the same as dvd was at an equivalent stage in its rollout, some of you really shouldnt be making comments about the 'high price' of hd dvd/bd without taking the whole vhs/dvd history into account.

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blown503

My understanding is that there is more to view on the hd dvd version of 300.
I also thought that hd dvd is the superior product and the only reason that blue ray would sell more was because of the ps3.

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mike2h

i dont know what the specific 'extra' content on the the hd dvd vers is, but seeing as how i usually only check out deleted scenes & outtakes/bloopers(like most people) i dont really care.
not sure what you mean by "superior product", image & sound quality are exactly the same for both. what r u talking about?

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CDsDontBurn

i got me the cheapy DVD version of the movie the weekend it came out.

i typically only watch JUST the movie, nothing else. it's my gf that watches all the extras .

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Necrosis

Yup women love the extra content. I think it ruins the movie.

CDsDontBurn

the extra content is neat, but i don't watch it because it's not part of the movie itself.

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mike2h

you talking about the extra content that is standard on dvd? or bd-wich can(&usually does) have extra extra content... or the content in hd dvd which has extra extra content & most of the time will have extra extra extra content?

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e-motion

Kind of makes me laugh when you consider that PS3s are 20 times more sold than HD DVD players yet can only muster a 2 to 1 sales ratio with a PS3-crowd pleasing title such as 300... And that's before the rush of new quality games of this holiday season too...

mike2h

so you are saying that there is well over 20 times bd players than hd dvd players? i would be interested in the source for that. means hd dvd is already dead & just doesnt know it.
or that the numbers arent that high(though possible, i really would like to see your source) & not everyone wanted 300, not everyone buys the high def ver but dvd instead. possible...?

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e-motion

Well, it's been announced a while ago that there are 4.5 millions PS3s and 200,000 HD DVD players out there, so that would make it 20 times more PS3s than HD DVD players...

However, the SI ratio is still 60-40 in favor of BR, it hasn't moved one bit since day 1 of last year, which means PS3's attach rate is getting lower. How is that a slam dunk for BR if the SI ratio doesn't move with that many more BR-capable machines on the market ?

Necrosis

If I remember correctly the actual number of HD DVD players (stand alone plus 360 add-on) sold world wide is around 400,00-450,000. However, the number of PS3's shipped not sold is 4.5 million. There is over 1.6 million Blu-Ray players w/ just over 100,000 of those being stand alone units. The rest are PS3's which I find funny since consoles are the worst video players. It maybe okay right now but they get eclipsed soon after by newer generation hardware. You can only upgrade so much via firmware/software. Is it funny out of that number there wasn't more sales. You would figure w/ a guy movie w/ guys owning the majority of consoles w/ HDTVs it would be a totally landslide in Blu-Ray's favor.

mike2h

while you are probably right(yet suspect), you are not taking into account the big rush on ps3 over the last month due to the 'price drop' & all the stand alone bd players out there.. wich means there are a hell of a lot more potential bd movie buyers than hd dvd buyers. you think the industry isnt taking note of that(if you are right)?
read the second part of my post. i have ps3, yet the only movie i have purchased so far is 300(i aslo got the 5 freebies) until prices come down my purchases of bd movies will be very limited - i have purchased 2 dvd movies that were also bd since i got my ps3. i made the mistake of paying high prices like this when dvd 1st came out, wont happen again. prices will drop by xmas- especially if your numbers are correct(as will hardware prices). & by this time next year bd movies will be around $20(or lower) imo.
i also think that the high ratio of ps3 to standalone bd decks(regardless of the numbers involved) explains the discrepancy of the movies purchased ratio(wich is a very good point bty). stand alone decks are mostly purchased by peeps with hd tv & knowledge of hd. the ywil be buying movies whenever they can. ps3 buyers are mostly kids or parents buying for their kids with the whole purpose being to play games, a lot of these peeps dont have hd capabilities & some dont even know what hd is let alone bd/hddvd. wcih means you got a lot of ownes of ps3 not buying movies, this will change with education through advertisement & forced acceptance of hd tv. once more people start seeing how great hd is & buying more hd tv's d oyou think they are going to run out & buy a hddvd player or go "hey i got a machine(ps3) right here that will play hd media"?
i think the blue ray consortium yhas this well thought out & that is the main reason so many big compainies are on board with it vs hddvd.
if you are right about the numbers, the hddvd camp is already screwed. jmo.

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Necrosis

Wasn't those special 60GB PS3's supposed to be sold out by the end of July, but now they're saying November? It doesn't make much sense to me to sell out the better PS3's w/ hardware support for older software. Then turn around and sell a software emulated version w/ 80GB drive for $100 more. You would think they would leave the price alone @ $500.00. Anyway wish I could find the news article that I read those numbers from. What I say has to be take w/ a grain of salt but either way it shows in hardware Blu-Ray is leading either way.

BTW, I don't know where you are getting you movies from but Newegg & Amazon have the best prices.

mike2h

i think the 80 gig vers has a game & an extra controller, so that is a savings of about $90(assuming you like the game) the extra 20 gig certainly isnt worth the price diff.
i think the software emulation is an overblown issue. if you have that many games, it also means you have a ps2, just use it like you always have. though personally id think most people are probably tired of their ps2 games, i know i have not touched mine in a year.
i think the price will drop again around xmas, along with some nice bundles.
the whole emulation thing is sony trying to save ever cent they can on these units(bet the 80 gig hd is cheaper than the 60 gig). i think sony wants to get into profibility on the hardware(or at least break even) faster than ms - who has yet to do that.

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Necrosis

Hmm sad thing is Sony has to do more than MS. So far they are losing what over $350 per console? So even if they have sold so many they still lose money. Never mind the 360 isn't the problem it's Nintendo's Wii that is kicking the living crap out of it. Sony doesn't quite know how to deal with that even in their own home market.

mike2h

sony is not losing anything like yhay on their console, i think the most i ever heard was $ 300, & that was at release, it has gone down significantly since then. still hurtin' them though.
while wii is terricfic & is a great buy, sales on it will slow after xmas imo. it just cant compete with 360 & ps3 for an awsome game experience(i would like t ohave a wii tho, no way can i get that past the wife)& i dont consider it a true competitor to either.. either way though it has definetly eaten int osony/ms market share but if they hadnt planned for that the peeps in charge should lose their jobs.
anyway wil be intersting t osee if sony is still losing as much $$ per unit when it has been out as long as 360 has been now. the big downside ms has, & granted they can absorb it, is not the loss per console but all that $$$ gone down the toilet in customer service & repairs/replacements.
hey, as long as they are competiing head to head, im a happy camper, why i dont get why some people get so 'fanboyish(not reffering to you)' about one or the other. dont want either of them to run the other into the ground. bad for us

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The_Neon_Cowboy

funny thing is i vaguely remember some place like best buy offering a bundle a few weeks ago, Ps3 +
the 300 movie. Which would account for most of the 2:1 ... These bundles are good sure but they artificially inflates the numbers.

I mean come on If I give you a turd, with every ps3 turds how ever undesirable would look like
a top seller. Offering people the 300 and ps3 as a bundle or ps3 + choice of new titles, wich 300
is one of the bewst of an most likey chosen. Discounted, bundled free giveaways so strew the
numbers but of course it's over looked....

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mike2h

vaguely is probably right, cause i sure dont remember it or see it mentioned anywhere.
but in case you are right, & it was bundled in what would obviously be a limited bundle as it wasnt widely available, the numbers involved would lend very little to the overall numbers of 300 bd movies purchased. the rest of your post is drivel.

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Necrosis

300 has also been bundled w/ the HD DVD add-on as well.

YAYitsAndrew

There's really no need for a hd format pissing war. COMBINED, blue ray and hd-dvd sold only 250,000 copies. That's like saying a fat kid bought two hershey bars and one godiva bar so the hershey is better and outselling 2:1. With such a small difference like that anything could have affected the sales, like a pricing difference or a bundle offer. Nothing here says that either format is better than the other.

DVD still wins.

PS3 figure was accurate. Almost 4.5m sold worldwide, not shippied.
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mike2h

ty for link. & i agree that the sales numbers probably dont mean a whole lot to us, but i do think it will mean something t osome of the sales/marketing portions of some of the corps involved.
one thing you are wrong about, dvd is NOT in competition with hd. it was here before & will be around for quite awhile to come. hd is a replacemant for dvd & by the time dvd is replaced it is possible that neither one of those formats isthe actual product that does it.
it is the same as when dvd came along & replaced dvd(& we know how many years that took) dvd was never truly in competition with vhs because once it was actually accepted, its replacement of vhs was a foregone conclusion. the same applies here. some sort of hd format WILL replace dvd, not a matter of if, but when.

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Zardon

im lucky to own a PS3 and a 360 with HDDVD player and have about 40 discs between the two formats. there really isnt much difference in quality, but I would give the edge to the PS3, due to the HDMI output and the stellar work Sony have done with the last update and the IQ improvements. The PS3 is a killer media console and has one of the best bluray players available right now, especially considering the price (it has even better IQ than a toshiba standalone player I tested at twice the price of the PS3).

Now all sony need to do is get some good games out, im hoping lair will be the start of that shortly. They are still lagging WAY behind the 360 in that department and pickings have been slim this year.