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Old Dec 28, 2007, 07:15 AM   #1
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Athlon X2 is dead; long live Athlon 6000

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AMD has recently outlined the phase-out schedule for several of its Athlon 64 X2 CPUs, while the Athlon brand name will be re-purposed for upcoming dual-core CPUs based on the K10 core, according to sources at motherboard makers.

AMD will stop taking orders for Athlon 64 X2 6400+ black edition and 89W version Athlon 64 X2 6000+ processors in the first quarter of 2008. Last orders for 125W Athlon 64 X2 6000+ and Athlon 64 X2 5600+ processors will be at the end of the first quarter, the sources detailed.

AMD will also stop taking orders for Athlon 64 X2 4200+ and 4000+ processors by the end of this year and will launch a 65W Athlon 64 X2 4600+ clocked at 2.3GHz and with 1MB L2 cache in second quarter of 2008.

AMD will launch a new series of dual-core products based on its next-generation architecture, Athlon 6000, in the later half of second quarter next year. First to launch will be the Athlon 6250 and 6050, the sources revealed. Although the core frequencies of the two CPUs have not been set yet, they will adopt 1MB L2 cache and 2MB shared L3 cache, the sources added.
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Old Dec 28, 2007, 07:22 AM   #2
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Bring me AM3 socket.... and kill the previous sockets.. and make damn sure the AM3 socket will last no less then 4 years...... Put a couple dozen extra pins just in case they could be used oventually...... dammit......

the constant socket switching, and the limitations ..... seriously need some stability

Reason intell is killing with the 775... solid set standard...

If AMD can spit up no less then a 400FSB on the cpu... over 2000 HTT (4000).... hell take it to 500FSB.... lets see the frigen shit hit the fan when the FSB is able to pave the road for several years....
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the constant socket switching, and the limitations ..... seriously need some stability

Reason intell is killing with the 775... solid set standard...
This is why I'm not buying AMD again, they insult the customer base with all the different sockets while always lagging behind Intel in performance; AMD wants to bleed dry whatever loyal customers they have.
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To be fair, Intel may have used the same socket for a while but that doesnt mean all the CPU's work in every board.... far from it. Even some boards made in the last year dont support Yorkfield. And if you had a 975Chipset some of the 1333fsb chips dont work on that. (there are more examples)

AMD are not all bad though, I have a basic budget 690G based motherboard i bought a while ago and i dropped a Phenom in it... runs no problem.

They are each as bad/good as each other really.
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yes granted the phenom drops right into older boards... but with intel making constant jumps in FSB increases and sticking to the same socket, there are quite a number of boards that can be updated to support the newer chips....
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To be fair, Intel may have used the same socket for a while but that doesnt mean all the CPU's work in every board.... far from it. Even some boards made in the last year dont support Yorkfield. And if you had a 975Chipset some of the 1333fsb chips dont work on that. (there are more examples)

AMD are not all bad though, I have a basic budget 690G based motherboard i bought a while ago and i dropped a Phenom in it... runs no problem.

They are each as bad/good as each other really.
I agree. And at least AMD's approach is transparent.
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veridian3... how many different rigs do you have? and whats your main one?
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Not much to choose between:

1. Same socket, different flavours - the ability to put an older chip on a newer motherboard is not a huge advantage unless something requires you to replace a motherboard alone.

Socket 775 has been anything but stable, with the oldest implementations unable to support dual core, the next ones unable to support Core 2, then the additional FSB variations.

2. Different socket

AMD64 sockets (so far):
S754 (low end)
S939 (high end)
AM2 (replaced them both)

In each socket, compatibility has been higher than for the supposedly unified Intel 775


Intel have also brought us a number of different sockets before 775, so they are also a serial socket switcher.


The AM2+ / AM3 issue could well bite AMD though, if AM2+ is seen as a stopgap.
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Bring me AM3 socket.... and kill the previous sockets.. and make damn sure the AM3 socket will last no less then 4 years...... Put a couple dozen extra pins just in case they could be used oventually...... dammit......

the constant socket switching, and the limitations ..... seriously need some stability

Reason intell is killing with the 775... solid set standard...

If AMD can spit up no less then a 400FSB on the cpu... over 2000 HTT (4000).... hell take it to 500FSB.... lets see the frigen shit hit the fan when the FSB is able to pave the road for several years....

I agree 100%. I was VERY pissed off that only a few "moments" after buying my X2 4400 I might as well have bought a K5 for upgrade purposes.
Together with performance, the main reason why I jumped ship to Intel.
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the nice thing about same socket is the fact that you can generally use older same socket cpu in the new board.... it makes upgrading alot more easier.... specially if your jumping from agp to pci-ex.... or from an older ram type to the newer...

I'm not argueing that intel wasn't guilty of the same thing.... but with AM2+ and AM3....
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There isn't much of a difference between AMD and Intel to the end user, but motherboard manufacturers probably prefer distinct socket changes over recurring uncertainties within a single socket.
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