Toshiba Confirms Withdrawal from HD-DVD

Iria · Feb 16, 2008, 04:36 PM

Source: Tech-Ex
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With the announcement yesterday that Wal-Mart was dropping HD-DVD, this announcement was inevitable. When the world's largest retailer drops your product, it's time to cut your losses and get out.

OmegaRED · Feb 16, 2008, 05:27 PM

To me, this was really the nail in the coffin. Toshiba was the one making all those dirt cheap HD-DVD players, without further production there's no hope for the format.

Great to see the wars are over and hopefully by the end of the year BluRay will be cheaper to get into

slugbug · Feb 16, 2008, 05:37 PM

Toshiba, I want my money back!

The_Neon_Cowboy · Feb 16, 2008, 07:06 PM

Well there now no competition, wich is bad, their now the "only game in town"
and thus you'll pay what ever they want or get nothing.... there is less pressure

But the increse in volume that would help prices still wont happen untill prices lower
as $399 is still a bit steap as it more expensive then say 90% of peoples tv's

HDVD logially would of won being the devices are 1/5th the price and the media
is cheaper. Their amazeing simular both use a blue lazer to store more data
blue ray just held more data...

The players will get lower in price but the movies well.. To bady sony got the big
players to sign with blueray behind closed doors. So we could actually see who
would have really won from a consumer standpoint with hdvd player heading into
the sub $100 range theres no way a $400 player would have been able to compete
in volumes...

Basically everyone who owns and had player now just has a pretty upconverting
DVD player as the movies will dry up after long...

Necrosis · Feb 16, 2008, 08:07 PM

Hopefully the crazy stock clearing sales for the movies will start up soon.

mike2h · Feb 16, 2008, 09:29 PM

it is amazing how peeple keep ignoring the past. dvd & vhs were both the 'only game in town'(there were other formats but none of them came anywhere near being mainstream). prices on both hardware & media went down pretty quickly after the 2nd year. it is easy to figure out to.
all the companies involved want bd players in eberybodys home & more impotantly, buying the movies. while it will take time, they will do everything in their power to make this happen.
the early adopter rush is pretty much over, more peeps will be buying more hd sets now that prices have really dropped & there is a good selection of programming & networks over-air broadcasting available.
more hd sets means more demand for bd players... by next xmas players will be under $200 & movies under$25 imo. folowing year will see prices similar to what dvd players/movies were 2 yrs ago.
there will be a premium for hd stuff over dvd for 3-4 more years, but the diff will shrink & in 5-6 years dvd will be phasing out & we will be having this same discussion about whatever the 'new' format that was released in the previous year.

Lowfat · Feb 16, 2008, 11:44 PM

sad sad news

Judas · Feb 16, 2008, 11:58 PM

bring it on ... now that i've got stock on the HD/BR dvd players....

The_Neon_Cowboy · Feb 17, 2008, 03:42 AM

one angle I think time warner was looking at was piracy, well they underestimate
the power of the community. Since they figure at 50GB who could effectively share
such media online? (Forgeting things like divix etc...)

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Originally Posted by Necrosis

Hopefully the crazy stock clearing sales for the movies will start up soon.

I hope so but as it looks thier just plaining to silently sell them and not replinish.
AS I know I'd be telling my reps to send'em back but thier "hot potatoes" now.

Necrosis · Feb 17, 2008, 04:18 AM

I hope so because all I can say is it won't take much for me to make them Blu.

BlueMak · Feb 17, 2008, 04:33 AM

So, I guess Sony final got their revenge after Beta and Minidisc.

Vikingod · Feb 17, 2008, 05:00 AM

Personally, I think its a good thing that HD DVD is dead (don't tell Craig). The "format wars" were only keeping people from adopting the new tech, and keeping company's from fully supporting either camp. Either way, the technology is better than DVD, and there is huge potential for storage in each, so it doesn't really matter to me who "won".

Sucks for those who adopted early, but sadly, thats what you have to expect, or at least accept, when getting into unproven technology.

Plus, its nice for Sony that after all their failed formats (beta, minidisc, etc), they finally got one right. Sort of like giving an Oscar to a legendary actor for a movie that didn't quite deserve it, but because they were getting older and hadn't won it before.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Feb 17, 2008, 06:42 AM

funny thing is blue ray and HD DVD are similar in theory, both are using blue lasers
to increase storage on the disk. So many people don't know that the same blue laser
that named blue ray is present in hddvd. Why company's where able to put out combo
drives so fast...

Feb 16, 2008, 04:36 PM	#1
Iria DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 7,275 Rep Power: 89	Toshiba Confirms Withdrawal from HD-DVD Source: Tech-Ex ________ With the announcement yesterday that Wal-Mart was dropping HD-DVD, this announcement was inevitable. When the world's largest retailer drops your product, it's time to cut your losses and get out.

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Feb 16, 2008, 07:06 PM	#4
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	Well there now no competition, wich is bad, their now the "only game in town" and thus you'll pay what ever they want or get nothing.... there is less pressure But the increse in volume that would help prices still wont happen untill prices lower as $399 is still a bit steap as it more expensive then say 90% of peoples tv's HDVD logially would of won being the devices are 1/5th the price and the media is cheaper. Their amazeing simular both use a blue lazer to store more data blue ray just held more data... The players will get lower in price but the movies well.. To bady sony got the big players to sign with blueray behind closed doors. So we could actually see who would have really won from a consumer standpoint with hdvd player heading into the sub $100 range theres no way a $400 player would have been able to compete in volumes... Basically everyone who owns and had player now just has a pretty upconverting DVD player as the movies will dry up after long... __________________

Feb 16, 2008, 09:29 PM	#6
mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	it is amazing how peeple keep ignoring the past. dvd & vhs were both the 'only game in town'(there were other formats but none of them came anywhere near being mainstream). prices on both hardware & media went down pretty quickly after the 2nd year. it is easy to figure out to. all the companies involved want bd players in eberybodys home & more impotantly, buying the movies. while it will take time, they will do everything in their power to make this happen. the early adopter rush is pretty much over, more peeps will be buying more hd sets now that prices have really dropped & there is a good selection of programming & networks over-air broadcasting available. more hd sets means more demand for bd players... by next xmas players will be under $200 & movies under$25 imo. folowing year will see prices similar to what dvd players/movies were 2 yrs ago. there will be a premium for hd stuff over dvd for 3-4 more years, but the diff will shrink & in 5-6 years dvd will be phasing out & we will be having this same discussion about whatever the 'new' format that was released in the previous year. __________________

Feb 16, 2008, 11:44 PM	#7
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,254 Rep Power: 101	sad sad news __________________

Feb 16, 2008, 05:37 PM	#3
slugbug Going Broke Saving Money Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 571 Rep Power: 70 System Specs	Toshiba, I want my money back!

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Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Hopefully the crazy stock clearing sales for the movies will start up soon.

Feb 17, 2008, 04:18 AM	#10
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	I hope so because all I can say is it won't take much for me to make them Blu.

Feb 17, 2008, 04:33 AM	#11
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,481 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	So, I guess Sony final got their revenge after Beta and Minidisc. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Feb 17, 2008, 05:00 AM	#12
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,197 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	Personally, I think its a good thing that HD DVD is dead (don't tell Craig). The "format wars" were only keeping people from adopting the new tech, and keeping company's from fully supporting either camp. Either way, the technology is better than DVD, and there is huge potential for storage in each, so it doesn't really matter to me who "won". Sucks for those who adopted early, but sadly, thats what you have to expect, or at least accept, when getting into unproven technology. Plus, its nice for Sony that after all their failed formats (beta, minidisc, etc), they finally got one right. Sort of like giving an Oscar to a legendary actor for a movie that didn't quite deserve it, but because they were getting older and hadn't won it before.

Feb 17, 2008, 06:42 AM	#13
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	funny thing is blue ray and HD DVD are similar in theory, both are using blue lasers to increase storage on the disk. So many people don't know that the same blue laser that named blue ray is present in hddvd. Why company's where able to put out combo drives so fast... __________________