AMD to show off DX11 hardware tomorrow

*CATALYST maker* · Jun 2, 2009, 06:22 PM

JUST BEFORE NOON Taipei time on Wendesday, ATI is going to to drop a bombshell on the graphics world, showing off working 40nm DX11 silicon. Nvidia has yet to tape out a DX11 part or put a 40nm chip on the market.

The cards that will be showed off are Evergreen/Cypress, what is commonly referred to as R870. That code name however is not used internally, so if you ever see any leaked specs or charts with R870 on them, they are flat out faked. There have been several of these bandied around, but they are all laughably off.

AMD promised that they would have DX11 cards out on the market by the Windows 7 launch, and barring a massive and as of yet undetected problem, it looks like they will make that with ease. In the mean time, at the company's Computex press conferences, Nvidia distinctly avoided any mention of DX11 or parts that run it..

Mid-day tomorrow, the winners and losers for the next 2-3 quarters will become very very clear.
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Judas · Jun 2, 2009, 06:39 PM

I can't wait...

Gastrian · Jun 2, 2009, 07:12 PM

DX11 and 40nm? Does that mean we could see some better performing mid-range cards with fanless coolers?

longhorn1000 · Jun 2, 2009, 08:23 PM

OK, maybe I am having a cynical day... but I have a DX10.1 card (the 4870 X2) which is great... but the lack of games for it make that functionality a bit rubbish. Hawx is about the only decent 10.1 title.

So this hardware demo proves that the R800 series is real, great. But when will we see games that actually use the features and make it any more useful than a 4800?

Judas · Jun 2, 2009, 09:14 PM

When did games start showing up when nvidia showed off there dx10 compliant cards and got raving results for it..

the moment that dx10/10.1/11 start getting ground at all.. it'll pick up.. it's already starting to pick up.

Gastrian · Jun 2, 2009, 09:17 PM

The question, is DX11 Win 7 only?

Judas · Jun 2, 2009, 09:22 PM

i doubt it, but i wouldn't be REALLY surprised....

longhorn1000 · Jun 2, 2009, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

When did games start showing up when nvidia showed off there dx10 compliant cards and got raving results for it..

the moment that dx10/10.1/11 start getting ground at all.. it'll pick up.. it's already starting to pick up.

its picking up? Nonsense... there are about 30 DX10 games and less than ten of those are 10.1. Thats a tiny amount. And there are not that many more announced.

I'm sure the R800 series will be good but at the moment its only possible to consider it as "faster" than the current cards. The original post makes it out to be the best thing since sliced bread, and the fact that Nvidia has nothing to match it means very little because by the time there are games which use DX11 there will be an nvidia card to compete.

longhorn1000 · Jun 2, 2009, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gastrian

The question, is DX11 Win 7 only?

No, Vista too.

Judas · Jun 2, 2009, 09:47 PM

the thing is... DX11 presents some killer MAJOR changes to the dx lineup.. while dx10/10.1 provided some very powerful new enhancements..... programs weren't inclined to bother with it which is just plain ol lazy.

DX11 makes use of some pretty significant features that could present even easier and more realistic rendering.... ray tracing is quite exciting....

Gastrian · Jun 2, 2009, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by longhorn1000

No, Vista too.

So they've learned from the "no DX10 on XP" commotion then

macbiter · Jun 2, 2009, 10:49 PM

Well this has answered a few questions that for sure.

Charlie Demijerian from the inquirer has started his own site called semi accurate and AMD are supporting him.

Rumour is it that the inquirer are being shut down in their current state by incisive media due to all the hassles in the last year with the rubbish news posting and biased "in the pocket" journalist they ended up delivering.

Not shocked to see all the news on charlies new site is directly linked to slagging off Nvidia and applauding AMD. To make it even more interesting, AMD staff are posting links to his site on all the major tech forums (like here) to get it off the ground.

As for DX11? well lets hope to god its worth more than DX 10.1 ever was, what a total waste of time that was. Didn't change gaming at all for anyone this year.

Mac Daddy · Jun 2, 2009, 11:31 PM

This sounds like great news would certainly like to check out

Thanks for the heads up Terry

longhorn1000 · Jun 2, 2009, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macbiter

Well this has answered a few questions that for sure.

Charlie Demijerian from the inquirer has started his own site called semi accurate and AMD are supporting him.

Rumour is it that the inquirer are being shut down in their current state by incisive media due to all the hassles in the last year with the rubbish news posting and biased "in the pocket" journalist they ended up delivering.

Not shocked to see all the news on charlies new site is directly linked to slagging off Nvidia and applauding AMD. To make it even more interesting, AMD staff are posting links to his site on all the major tech forums (like here) to get it off the ground.

As for DX11? well lets hope to god its worth more than DX 10.1 ever was, what a total waste of time that was. Didn't change gaming at all for anyone this year.

Wow, didnt even notice that Catalyst Maker had linked to another site on his post... thought it was written by him seeing as it was so pro-ATI in its wording. Looking at the site and seeing that its all Anti-Nvidia posting from that Charlie guy and seeing ATI pimping it looks very bad for them. He cant even write a headline without showing his bias! (e.g. "Nvidia 40nm parts *YAWN* delayed again")

He had very little credibility for the stuff he has been doing for the last few years in that other site and to see ATI so actively involved and at such a high level, cant be good. Its the same type of negative PR that everyone used to hate from Nvidia. How things change!

|2A|N · Jun 3, 2009, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac Daddy

This sounds like great news would certainly like to check out

Thanks for the heads up Terry

Agreed +1

**kris23** · Jun 3, 2009, 12:31 AM

excellent news!

Jun 2, 2009, 06:22 PM	#1
CATALYST maker ATI driver guru Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: ATI, Canada Posts: 678 Rep Power: 63	AMD to show off DX11 hardware tomorrow JUST BEFORE NOON Taipei time on Wendesday, ATI is going to to drop a bombshell on the graphics world, showing off working 40nm DX11 silicon. Nvidia has yet to tape out a DX11 part or put a 40nm chip on the market. The cards that will be showed off are Evergreen/Cypress, what is commonly referred to as R870. That code name however is not used internally, so if you ever see any leaked specs or charts with R870 on them, they are flat out faked. There have been several of these bandied around, but they are all laughably off. AMD promised that they would have DX11 cards out on the market by the Windows 7 launch, and barring a massive and as of yet undetected problem, it looks like they will make that with ease. In the mean time, at the company's Computex press conferences, Nvidia distinctly avoided any mention of DX11 or parts that run it.. Mid-day tomorrow, the winners and losers for the next 2-3 quarters will become very very clear. ____________ Source: Semi Accurate __________________ Follow me on Twitter for exclusive Catalyst news and updates http://twitter.com/CatalystMaker What evil person came up with this scheme? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0qXZTOtszI Have either a CPU, an ATI GPU (X1600 and higher), or a Playstation 3? Join team 51394 the DH and ATI team for Folding@Home http://folding.stanford.edu/download.html Last edited by MIG-31; Jun 2, 2009 at 06:39 PM.

Jun 2, 2009, 07:12 PM	#3
Gastrian HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 266 Rep Power: 56	Re: AMD to show off DX11 hardware tomorrow DX11 and 40nm? Does that mean we could see some better performing mid-range cards with fanless coolers? __________________

Jun 2, 2009, 08:23 PM	#4
longhorn1000 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 70 Rep Power: 0	Re: AMD to show off DX11 hardware tomorrow OK, maybe I am having a cynical day... but I have a DX10.1 card (the 4870 X2) which is great... but the lack of games for it make that functionality a bit rubbish. Hawx is about the only decent 10.1 title. So this hardware demo proves that the R800 series is real, great. But when will we see games that actually use the features and make it any more useful than a 4800?

Jun 2, 2009, 09:17 PM	#6
Gastrian HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 266 Rep Power: 56	Re: AMD to show off DX11 hardware tomorrow The question, is DX11 Win 7 only? __________________

Jun 2, 2009, 10:49 PM	#12
macbiter DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 81 Rep Power: 0	Re: AMD to show off DX11 hardware tomorrow Well this has answered a few questions that for sure. Charlie Demijerian from the inquirer has started his own site called semi accurate and AMD are supporting him. Rumour is it that the inquirer are being shut down in their current state by incisive media due to all the hassles in the last year with the rubbish news posting and biased "in the pocket" journalist they ended up delivering. Not shocked to see all the news on charlies new site is directly linked to slagging off Nvidia and applauding AMD. To make it even more interesting, AMD staff are posting links to his site on all the major tech forums (like here) to get it off the ground. As for DX11? well lets hope to god its worth more than DX 10.1 ever was, what a total waste of time that was. Didn't change gaming at all for anyone this year.

Jun 2, 2009, 11:31 PM	#13
Mac Daddy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,950 Rep Power: 79 System Specs	Re: AMD to show off DX11 hardware tomorrow This sounds like great news would certainly like to check out Thanks for the heads up Terry __________________ "My mom said the only reason men are alive is for lawn care and vehicle maintenance." - Tim Allen

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kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Re: AMD to show off DX11 hardware tomorrow excellent news! __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!