Kyle @ HardOCP on Nvidia

***Veridian3*** · Aug 12, 2003, 12:34 PM

The following is an extract from an editorial which was posted by Kyle at HardOCP earlier today. It makes for excellent reading and asks the questions of Nvidia many should be asking.

It will be interesting to see how Nvidia choose to respond...if they do at all...

NOTE: I'd also like to congratulate Kyle on making this statement and i hope he gets the answers he is looking for.

"I am sorry, but I have now had enough. NVIDIA needs to fess up to their actions publicly. NVIDIA needs to apologize for their actions publicly. NVIDIA needs to spell out the corrections they are going to make publicly. NVIDIA needs to make the community aware of the optimizations they will make that affect benchmark scores in games and synthetics. NVIDIA needs to treat the community with the respect they deserve. If they do not, the enthusiast community needs to go spend their money with the competition and urge all the people that ask them for buying advice to do the same. "

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NTAz

WaltC · Aug 12, 2003, 02:16 PM

I am very pleased that frgmstr has had an epiphany and now understands that nVidia has never done more than string him along for the past nine months. I think quite frankly that he's had enough of being led around by the nose, being used, and that he quite rightly has reached the conclusion that nVidia PR's been making a fool out of him and he's not too happy about it. And at last he seems to clearly understand that nVidia hasn't been "listening" to [H] at all, about anything, but formulates its own agendas internally. Kyle's value to nVidia is only to the degree that Kyle listens to them and publishes articles based on the premises they feed him. He seems to be fully and irrevocably aware of this now.

My only regret, and it's one I'm sure Kyle now shares, is simply that it took him so long to see it.

maximluva · Aug 12, 2003, 02:33 PM

another one of kyle's long winded rants.... who really cares?? I mean seriously? It's a god damn video card/company.

~~HawK~~ · Aug 12, 2003, 03:47 PM

Well it takes a Man to admit someone else is wrong

brc64 · Aug 12, 2003, 04:21 PM

/me is wating for Dig's inevitable response

- Me

Alpha · Aug 12, 2003, 04:40 PM

The Dig responses are at rage3d in http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...eadid=33704054 and http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...eadid=33704072

digitalwanderer · Aug 12, 2003, 05:37 PM

I just have been a bit slow making the rounds this morning, kids.

It's a good thing, if it's a real thing....I still have a few paranoid reservations that Kyle is just setting the stage for nV to come out and "see the light thanks to Kyle" and to publically declare a new commitment to the "community"...which in turn will just be [H] again.

But we'll see what we will see, let's hear from nVidia on this one.

brc64 · Aug 12, 2003, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by digitalwanderer
But we'll see what we will see, let's hear from nVidia on this one.

I'm just curious.. why is everybody so sure nVidia will even comment on the issue?

- Me

***Veridian3*** · Aug 12, 2003, 05:53 PM

I'm not....

from my original post:
"It will be interesting to see how Nvidia choose to respond...if they do at all..."

Stu

Aug 12, 2003, 12:34 PM	#1
*Veridian3* Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cloaked Posts: 5,028 Rep Power: 182	Kyle @ HardOCP on Nvidia The following is an extract from an editorial which was posted by Kyle at HardOCP earlier today. It makes for excellent reading and asks the questions of Nvidia many should be asking. It will be interesting to see how Nvidia choose to respond...if they do at all... NOTE: I'd also like to congratulate Kyle on making this statement and i hope he gets the answers he is looking for. "I am sorry, but I have now had enough. NVIDIA needs to fess up to their actions publicly. NVIDIA needs to apologize for their actions publicly. NVIDIA needs to spell out the corrections they are going to make publicly. NVIDIA needs to make the community aware of the optimizations they will make that affect benchmark scores in games and synthetics. NVIDIA needs to treat the community with the respect they deserve. If they do not, the enthusiast community needs to go spend their money with the competition and urge all the people that ask them for buying advice to do the same. " http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NTAz

Aug 12, 2003, 02:33 PM	#3
maximluva DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	bah another one of kyle's long winded rants.... who really cares?? I mean seriously? It's a god damn video card/company.

Aug 12, 2003, 04:40 PM	#6
Alpha Catalyst Beta tester Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 33 Rep Power: 0	The Dig responses are at rage3d in http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...eadid=33704054 and http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...eadid=33704072 __________________ System: Mobile Athlon XP2500+@2600mhz, Abit NF7-S 2.0, 1024mb DDR, Viewsonic A90 19", ATI Radeon 9700PRO - Windows XP + SP2 + DX9b

Aug 12, 2003, 05:37 PM	#7
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,619 Rep Power: 0	And here too! I just have been a bit slow making the rounds this morning, kids. It's a good thing, if it's a real thing....I still have a few paranoid reservations that Kyle is just setting the stage for nV to come out and "see the light thanks to Kyle" and to publically declare a new commitment to the "community"...which in turn will just be [H] again. But we'll see what we will see, let's hear from nVidia on this one. __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

Aug 12, 2003, 02:16 PM	#2
WaltC DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: Deep in Martian soil where it's warm and the air is good Posts: 245 Rep Power: 0	I am very pleased that frgmstr has had an epiphany and now understands that nVidia has never done more than string him along for the past nine months. I think quite frankly that he's had enough of being led around by the nose, being used, and that he quite rightly has reached the conclusion that nVidia PR's been making a fool out of him and he's not too happy about it. And at last he seems to clearly understand that nVidia hasn't been "listening" to [H] at all, about anything, but formulates its own agendas internally. Kyle's value to nVidia is only to the degree that Kyle listens to them and publishes articles based on the premises they feed him. He seems to be fully and irrevocably aware of this now. My only regret, and it's one I'm sure Kyle now shares, is simply that it took him so long to see it.

Aug 12, 2003, 03:47 PM	#4
~~HawK~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,092 Rep Power: 0	Well it takes a Man to admit someone else is wrong

Aug 12, 2003, 04:21 PM	#5
brc64 Zeeky H. Bomb Join Date: May 2002 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 826 Rep Power: 0	/me is wating for Dig's inevitable response - Me

Aug 12, 2003, 05:53 PM	Thread Starter #9
*Veridian3* Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cloaked Posts: 5,028 Rep Power: 182	I'm not.... from my original post: "It will be interesting to see how Nvidia choose to respond...if they do at all..." Stu