New Poll: Do you use an anti-static...

Dom · Sep 27, 2003, 09:34 PM

Do you use an anti-static wrist strap when handling internal computer parts?

Please vote in the Polling Booth (right-hand side of front page).

IronChisel · Sep 27, 2003, 09:36 PM

Yes......If I remember.

Sharkims · Sep 27, 2003, 09:37 PM

It is required in my Networking Course. I don't usualy wear one when I'm working on my own personal machine. I guess it's cause, I haven't had a static failure yet.

Nuke209 · Sep 28, 2003, 02:31 AM

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Originally posted by Sharkims
It is required in my Networking Course. I don't usualy wear one when I'm working on my own personal machine. I guess it's cause, I haven't had a static failure yet.

same here

most of the time, i'm holding the case or touching it, discharges me on the case most of the time so i'm coo....

BWX · Sep 28, 2003, 02:54 AM

I always touch something metal inside the case to ground myself. Although if you live in a moderate climate there is much less of a chance of a static discharge. IF I lived in a dry climate I would always where one. (if I had one- and I would if I lived in a dry climate)

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Sep 28, 2003, 04:45 AM

how much are these where can u get em?

BWX · Sep 28, 2003, 05:12 AM

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Originally posted by BiGBrOWnPimpsta
how much are these where can u get em?

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...&postid=211131

Necrosis · Sep 28, 2003, 05:36 AM

Here is a few good trips to help prevent ESD damage.

1. Always hold a board by it's edges if possible.

2. Discharge yourself on a bare metal part of the chasis of your case w/ the AC cord still plugged up. Most people think it's okay to unplug then discharge, but where does that charge go?

3. Since most of you don't have any anti-static work mats a good idea is to use a static bag. However, just using a bag and not discharging yourself is a catch 22. The reason being is anti-static bags are meant to protect the enclosed item by letting the charge flow around it. Now if you have a board sitting on a bag, and you discharge to the bag...well you get the idea.

4. Paper is a NO - NO! Never sit anything PCB on a piece of paper since it builds up its own charge!

5. Work in a area that is flat, and is atleast at waist level if you can. If you have your rig sitting on the floor, and your scooting around that can always make you build up a charge. Also, carpeting of course is another factor in building up charges. You will laugh at this but think about it, never work on your PC with only socks at your feet either.

6. Keeping your PC free of dust (best you can) is another helpful act in preventing damage plus also helps prevent heat build up.

7. Wash your hands!! Yes, the secretions from your hands..oil etc... can be conductive plus leave a nice thin coating for dust to stick to.

8. Cloth anti-static straps are alright but for the best contact possible the flexible metal straps work the best.

toddsmack2k · Sep 28, 2003, 05:54 AM

I havent used one yet. I always have a hand on the metal of the case to ground me. Hey Necrosis good common sense advice there man!

scobywhru · Sep 28, 2003, 06:03 AM

You can get them from CompUSA atleast the one near me And I know Fry's has them as well and there about $5 last time I looked but I picked up a few for $0.50 from a .com reseller, and I always try to remeber to attach a ground strap even though its all moist and all that, just good habit

Vampyromaniac · Sep 28, 2003, 07:08 AM

I am always careful, but a friend of mine doesnt care whenever I warn him . . . neither of us have had any problems yet

The_Neon_Cowboy · Sep 28, 2003, 07:38 AM

I work on cell pone boards all day/night long@ work we must use the static straps... but in the PC shop or @ home nope....very rare

most pc techs never wear one...

it's really not needed if you actually know what you doing..

there not all that effective and if your not touching all over the board like a mooron you'll be ok... handle by the edges and try not to tuch parts.

Quote:

Originally posted by scobywhru
You can get them from CompUSA atleast the one near me And I know Fry's has them as well and there about $5 last time I looked but I picked up a few for $0.50 from a .com reseller, and I always try to remeber to attach a ground strap even though its all moist and all that, just good habit

I useally make sure the pc is grounded and just clip my stap on the bare pc chasis.... there is a built in resistor on mine to aviod shocks...

Quote:

Originally posted by BWX232
I always touch something metal inside the case to ground myself. Although if you live in a moderate climate there is much less of a chance of a static discharge. IF I lived in a dry climate I would always where one. (if I had one- and I would if I lived in a dry climate)

keeping the moisture in the air around 75-80% will reduce static build ups. As well as dust.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Sep 28, 2003, 07:47 AM

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Originally posted by Vampyromaniac
I am always careful, but a friend of mine doesnt care whenever I warn him . . . neither of us have had any problems yet

well there are two types of damage

degradion... damaged but only slightly to an extent works / values permantly alterd/ life shortened/ can couse random issues that just pop up for time to time. (a real prick to pin down were it is too.....)

catastrophic ... damageed not working.../exploded parts/ parts melted interally

.................
for your info... the facts
.................

It takes ...

2,000 volts to feel an esd dischage (the ones you just barely feel)
20,000+ volts if you can see the spark (the ones that hurt like hell)

I takes less than 20V to destory an electronic componet in your pc!

**MIG-31** · Sep 28, 2003, 08:22 AM

allways touch the case when doing so.never felt any static to date.

Matth · Sep 28, 2003, 10:23 PM

Always! - or frequent contact with the metal case if none is available.

For "junk box cards", such as those from a bargain bin at a fair, I wrap in paper if the only alternative is a plastic bag or unprotected impact with other objects.

Paper may not be good, but it doesn't create and hold a charge like plastic!

FuNsTeR · Sep 28, 2003, 10:39 PM

i use my anti static kit 9 times out of 10 when i'm upgrading my pc or building a pc for mates

DriveEuro · Sep 29, 2003, 01:05 AM

Never, becuase I've never fudged anything other than unlocking a 2100 Palamino.

tek · Sep 29, 2003, 01:26 AM

Yeah my dad got one from his workplace, we use it on new mobo's we deal with, DDR, vid card mods, etc.

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Sep 27, 2003, 09:34 PM	#1
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IronChisel DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: With the Winds Posts: 263 Rep Power: 0	Yes......If I remember. __________________

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Sharkims Seen my brain? Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: WA,USA Posts: 760 Rep Power: 0	It is required in my Networking Course. I don't usualy wear one when I'm working on my own personal machine. I guess it's cause, I haven't had a static failure yet. __________________ System-1: MSI K8N Neo Platinum \|\| A64 3200+(200x11) - Zalman 7000A-AlCu \|\| 1x1gb OCZ PC3200@400(3-3-3-7) \|\| 9800XT \|\| WD Raptors 2x36 RAID0 System-2: MSI 875P Neo-FIS2R \|\| P4 2.4c(FSB:200) - Intel Cooler \|\| 2x256 GEIL PC3200@400(2-3-3-6) \|\| AIW9000 \|\| WD SE 120x2 RAID0 System-3: DELL Inspiron 9100 \|\| P4 3.0c(mobile) \|\| 2x256mb PC3200(3-3-3-8) \|\| Mobility Radeon 9700 - 128mb \|\| WSXGA+ 15.4" \|\| 60gb 5400RPM 8mb

Sep 28, 2003, 02:54 AM	#5
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	I always touch something metal inside the case to ground myself. Although if you live in a moderate climate there is much less of a chance of a static discharge. IF I lived in a dry climate I would always where one. (if I had one- and I would if I lived in a dry climate) __________________

Sep 28, 2003, 04:45 AM	#6
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Sep 28, 2003, 05:36 AM	#8
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Here is a few good trips to help prevent ESD damage. 1. Always hold a board by it's edges if possible. 2. Discharge yourself on a bare metal part of the chasis of your case w/ the AC cord still plugged up. Most people think it's okay to unplug then discharge, but where does that charge go? 3. Since most of you don't have any anti-static work mats a good idea is to use a static bag. However, just using a bag and not discharging yourself is a catch 22. The reason being is anti-static bags are meant to protect the enclosed item by letting the charge flow around it. Now if you have a board sitting on a bag, and you discharge to the bag...well you get the idea. 4. Paper is a NO - NO! Never sit anything PCB on a piece of paper since it builds up its own charge! 5. Work in a area that is flat, and is atleast at waist level if you can. If you have your rig sitting on the floor, and your scooting around that can always make you build up a charge. Also, carpeting of course is another factor in building up charges. You will laugh at this but think about it, never work on your PC with only socks at your feet either. 6. Keeping your PC free of dust (best you can) is another helpful act in preventing damage plus also helps prevent heat build up. 7. Wash your hands!! Yes, the secretions from your hands..oil etc... can be conductive plus leave a nice thin coating for dust to stick to. 8. Cloth anti-static straps are alright but for the best contact possible the flexible metal straps work the best.

Sep 28, 2003, 05:54 AM	#9
toddsmack2k It Never..... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,173 Rep Power: 0	I havent used one yet. I always have a hand on the metal of the case to ground me. Hey Necrosis good common sense advice there man! __________________ [color=blue]*Bleeding From the Inside Pouring Out, The* *DriverHeaven* Spiral, We Shall Never Let Go Of.[/color]

Sep 28, 2003, 06:03 AM	#10
scobywhru DriverHeaven Senile Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Penthouse Basement Posts: 619 Rep Power: 0	You can get them from CompUSA atleast the one near me And I know Fry's has them as well and there about $5 last time I looked but I picked up a few for $0.50 from a .com reseller, and I always try to remeber to attach a ground strap even though its all moist and all that, just good habit __________________

Sep 28, 2003, 07:08 AM	#11
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	I am always careful, but a friend of mine doesnt care whenever I warn him . . . neither of us have had any problems yet __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

Sep 28, 2003, 08:22 AM	#14
MIG-31 HardwareHeaven News Mod Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nottingham,UK Posts: 56,854 Rep Power: 471 System Specs	allways touch the case when doing so.never felt any static to date. __________________ Please Post Your News Submissions Here

Sep 28, 2003, 10:23 PM	#15
Matth Flash Banner Hater Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,426 Rep Power: 93 System Specs	Always! - or frequent contact with the metal case if none is available. For "junk box cards", such as those from a bargain bin at a fair, I wrap in paper if the only alternative is a plastic bag or unprotected impact with other objects. Paper may not be good, but it doesn't create and hold a charge like plastic!

Sep 28, 2003, 10:39 PM	#16
FuNsTeR Caledonian and Proud Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Darkest Ayrshire Posts: 1,305 Rep Power: 88 System Specs	i use my anti static kit 9 times out of 10 when i'm upgrading my pc or building a pc for mates __________________ "They say when you play a Microsoft CD backwards you can hear satanic messages ..... but that's nothing, if you play it forward it will install Windows"

Sep 29, 2003, 01:05 AM	#17
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Sep 29, 2003, 01:26 AM	#18
tek DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, US Posts: 2,103 Rep Power: 0	Yeah my dad got one from his workplace, we use it on new mobo's we deal with, DDR, vid card mods, etc. __________________ [COLOR=White][/COLOR]