Spam, spam and more spam

Zardon · Dec 11, 2003, 10:58 PM

Most of you know today of the new laws in Europe to battle spam, for those of you who have no idea what im talking about The laws make it a criminal offence to send e-mails or text messages unless the recipient has agreed in advance to accept them.

Firms which continue to send junk mail face hefty fines and can even be sued by the recipients.

THE BBC has more information on this if you would like to read more.

Personally im certain this wont stop our inboxs in the UK being swamped with offers, bodily enlargements and offers of massive loans or free access to porn sites, because lets be honest alot of the spam mail comes from the USA or other countries outside europe. Im not attacking the USA, im merely stating due to its sheer size and internet capability these laws will be rendered almost useless.

Whats your views on this, is there any possible way to stop spam at the source? discuss in our forum.

BWX · Dec 11, 2003, 11:11 PM

I don't get hardly any spam on my main mail account but on yahoo it's insane-- it's usually from China or Europe somewhere. The spam laws just passed here are a freaking joke.

jjmd · Dec 11, 2003, 11:15 PM

Nope i don't think there is a way to stop it with out all the countries making some kind of rule or law together. Which will never happin, as the US will not conform to others views or policies, we think were better than every body else. We got big problems coming to us, if we don't start using or Heads, or at least are Goverment dose. Just my two cents.

krazy1 · Dec 11, 2003, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BWX232
I don't get hardly any spam on my main mail account but on yahoo it's insane-- it's usually from China or Europe somewhere. The spam laws just passed here are a freaking joke.

Yea I just blocked several Class A segments in my firewall from China.... that sure helped...

Scoop · Dec 12, 2003, 01:21 AM

yeah
I get a lot of shit for "genetic viagra" for some reason! My friend though had the best one, it was for a replacment septic tank! great stuff eh!!

Regards
Scoop

krazy1 · Dec 12, 2003, 01:49 AM

I myself am trying a new thing starting tonight. I have now enabled the proxy function in my firewall. So now my Web and e-mail all run through the proxy server/firewall. The cool part is, there is a very nice spam filter built into the e-mail proxy (even can filter out any file types like exe,zip,jpg, what ever you feel like filtering) so that along with Mailwasher I should be pretty good.

BWX · Dec 12, 2003, 01:57 AM

I just remembered my ISP has a spam buster that you can opt into- I've been using it and don't have a spam problem at all- but then again I'm very careful with that email address. If I got careless I'm sure spam would come.

Markius · Dec 12, 2003, 02:02 AM

what i do to avoid spam in my email is have 2 accounts.....
anything i sign up to (DH,Gamespot,Gamearena etc) i use my hotmail...thats the account that gets spammed...

but i have my account provided by my ISP totally 100% spam free as i only give it to family and close friends..
main thing is that hotmail isnt actually on my PC unless i down load the file....so no spam on my PC

im sure alot of you guys do this...but i thought id share

BWX · Dec 12, 2003, 02:28 AM

You can use your primary e-mail to sign up to DH with- you won't get spammed because of it, at least I haven't- Yeah, I do the same with my main e-mail account too- but I still sign up to websites (like here) and others with main email and never get spammed.

studbagel9 · Dec 12, 2003, 03:42 AM

I like spam email... it's the only kind of email I ever get. It makes me feel like at least someone out there wants to talk to me. And hey, if they want to make my penis larger too, well then that's a friend to me ;p

Dyre Straits · Dec 12, 2003, 03:54 AM

I have serious doubts that passing laws will deter the spammers much at all. They'll always find some way to get around whatever laws are passed.

Like others, I use the freebie emails like Yahoo and rarely give out my main ISP email account. One of my Yahoo accounts still fills up well over 100 Bulk emails each day.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Dec 12, 2003, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jjmd
Nope i don't think there is a way to stop it with out all the countries making some kind of rule or law together. Which will never happin, as the US will not conform to others views or policies, we think were better than every body else. We got big problems coming to us, if we don't start using or Heads, or at least are Goverment dose. Just my two cents.

dude i get alot of spam from europe! , asia, russia

so what good thie thier law do me the just dont spam other europeas insted the spam us in the usa

Markius · Dec 12, 2003, 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by studbagel9
I like spam email... it's the only kind of email I ever get. It makes me feel like at least someone out there wants to talk to me. And hey, if they want to make my penis larger too, well then that's a friend to me ;p

your a tripper!

DriveEuro · Dec 12, 2003, 08:53 AM

Damn, I thought this was about spam on DH......... DAMN!

BWX · Dec 12, 2003, 11:57 AM

Quote >>>>>>>>>as the US will not conform to others views or policies, we think were better than every body else. We got big problems >>>>>>>>>>>>

http://www.overclockersclub.com/news...rticle=7121108
A spammer in Virginia was arrested yesterday, and was charged for sending spam email. He is the first person to be charged with the new state law, that could get him up to 20 years in prison. He was arrested on four counts of using fraudulent means to transmit spam, said Virginia Attorney General Jerry Kilgore.

The spammer was charged for violating limits on the number of messages a person can send and also for spoofing routing information, both of which are illegal under the Virginia law that carries penalties of 1-5 years in prison on each count. Roughly 50% of Internet traffic is being used to send Spam (Junk Email). New laws are being implemented in different states to stop spammers from sending unsolicited emails.

---Well I guess this is a start huh?
---Just wondering, how many people get arrested for spam over there in Europe?

The_Neon_Cowboy · Dec 13, 2003, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by studbagel9
I like spam email... it's the only kind of email I ever get. It makes me feel like at least someone out there wants to talk to me. And hey, if they want to make my penis larger too, well then that's a friend to me ;p

oh my

Quote:

Originally posted by DriveEuro
Damn, I thought this was about spam on DH......... DAMN!

lol judas is safe this time lol

Quote:

Originally posted by BWX232
---Just wondering, how many people get arrested for spam over there in Europe?

they don't becose they spam othe countries like the US and there no interbnational law.
i report tem to thier isps and i get a resonce like So, what? they dont care becouse thier is no international law. no international inforcent... so insted they send thier spam to the usa and spoof them to make like its comeing from the us

Dec 11, 2003, 10:58 PM	#1
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	Spam, spam and more spam Most of you know today of the new laws in Europe to battle spam, for those of you who have no idea what im talking about The laws make it a criminal offence to send e-mails or text messages unless the recipient has agreed in advance to accept them. Firms which continue to send junk mail face hefty fines and can even be sued by the recipients. THE BBC has more information on this if you would like to read more. Personally im certain this wont stop our inboxs in the UK being swamped with offers, bodily enlargements and offers of massive loans or free access to porn sites, because lets be honest alot of the spam mail comes from the USA or other countries outside europe. Im not attacking the USA, im merely stating due to its sheer size and internet capability these laws will be rendered almost useless. Whats your views on this, is there any possible way to stop spam at the source? discuss in our forum.

Dec 11, 2003, 11:11 PM	#2
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	I don't get hardly any spam on my main mail account but on yahoo it's insane-- it's usually from China or Europe somewhere. The spam laws just passed here are a freaking joke. __________________

Dec 11, 2003, 11:15 PM	#3
jjmd DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In Your Mothers Closet... Posts: 1,082 Rep Power: 0	Nope i don't think there is a way to stop it with out all the countries making some kind of rule or law together. Which will never happin, as the US will not conform to others views or policies, we think were better than every body else. We got big problems coming to us, if we don't start using or Heads, or at least are Goverment dose. Just my two cents. __________________ [COLOR=blue]Win XP Pro all updates.[/COLOR] [COLOR=blue]Asus Crosshair, Amd 64 X2 6000. 4 GB Cosair Dominator,2 MSI 7900gs 512 mg, 2 raptor 150 gig in raid 0. 22inch View Sonic LCD, 2 HP 16x dvd burners, and some other crap. HE HE HE. [/COLOR]

Dec 12, 2003, 01:49 AM	#6
krazy1 Live from the Dungeon Join Date: May 2003 Location: Between the SubWoofers Posts: 1,395 Rep Power: 0	I myself am trying a new thing starting tonight. I have now enabled the proxy function in my firewall. So now my Web and e-mail all run through the proxy server/firewall. The cool part is, there is a very nice spam filter built into the e-mail proxy (even can filter out any file types like exe,zip,jpg, what ever you feel like filtering) so that along with Mailwasher I should be pretty good. __________________

Dec 12, 2003, 01:57 AM	#7
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	I just remembered my ISP has a spam buster that you can opt into- I've been using it and don't have a spam problem at all- but then again I'm very careful with that email address. If I got careless I'm sure spam would come. __________________

Dec 12, 2003, 01:21 AM	#5
Scoop DriverHeaven Alcoholic Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Round the corner from the chip shop and over the pond... Posts: 182 Rep Power: 0	yeah I get a lot of shit for "genetic viagra" for some reason! My friend though had the best one, it was for a replacment septic tank! great stuff eh!! Regards Scoop

Dec 12, 2003, 02:02 AM	#8
Markius DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,350 Rep Power: 0	what i do to avoid spam in my email is have 2 accounts..... anything i sign up to (DH,Gamespot,Gamearena etc) i use my hotmail...thats the account that gets spammed... but i have my account provided by my ISP totally 100% spam free as i only give it to family and close friends.. main thing is that hotmail isnt actually on my PC unless i down load the file....so no spam on my PC im sure alot of you guys do this...but i thought id share __________________ DriverHeavens Aussie... "Lifes tragedy is that we get old too soon and wise too late"

Dec 12, 2003, 02:28 AM	#9
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	You can use your primary e-mail to sign up to DH with- you won't get spammed because of it, at least I haven't- Yeah, I do the same with my main e-mail account too- but I still sign up to websites (like here) and others with main email and never get spammed. __________________

Dec 12, 2003, 03:42 AM	#10
studbagel9 Rolling the Hard Six Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lock Haven, PA Posts: 767 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I like spam email... it's the only kind of email I ever get. It makes me feel like at least someone out there wants to talk to me. And hey, if they want to make my penis larger too, well then that's a friend to me ;p __________________

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Dec 12, 2003, 11:57 AM	#15
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	Quote >>>>>>>>>as the US will not conform to others views or policies, we think were better than every body else. We got big problems >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.overclockersclub.com/news...rticle=7121108 A spammer in Virginia was arrested yesterday, and was charged for sending spam email. He is the first person to be charged with the new state law, that could get him up to 20 years in prison. He was arrested on four counts of using fraudulent means to transmit spam, said Virginia Attorney General Jerry Kilgore. The spammer was charged for violating limits on the number of messages a person can send and also for spoofing routing information, both of which are illegal under the Virginia law that carries penalties of 1-5 years in prison on each count. Roughly 50% of Internet traffic is being used to send Spam (Junk Email). New laws are being implemented in different states to stop spammers from sending unsolicited emails. ---Well I guess this is a start huh? ---Just wondering, how many people get arrested for spam over there in Europe? __________________