Microsoft's new plan for WindowsXP Corporate user

Andrew275

Thanks to Shaun and Neowin.net for this bit of news:<blockquote>Microsoft is planning what could end up being quite a shock for the Windows XP warez world, and what currently looks to be one of the most amazing moves made by Microsoft since Windows Product Activation was introduced.

Currently, Microsoft is in the works of completely rewriting the algorithm for the way Windows XP Corporate keys are generated, and is rewriting the code for Windows XP to recognize this new algorithm. This new code will be an added ‘feature’ of Service Pack 1 due out later this year.

At the present moment, an upgrade to Windows XP SP1 from Windows XP with no SP installation will not give any problems or errors about an invalid CD-Key on a corporate version of Windows XP. This is because the new algorithm feature has been switched off in SP1 upgrades. To get to see this new feature, you would have to slipstream SP1 into the Windows XP installation media and setup Windows. Once you’ve reached the CD-key, no current Corporate Windows XP key (none of the 75 that we’ve tried) will work, as they are all invalid. Even if a corporate key is managed to be found, the chances of it working when SP1 final comes out are slim to none, as Microsoft is rumored to ‘still be working on the algorithm for SP1 for Corporate customers’.

So why is Microsoft keeping this a secret? To put it mildly, they are a bit perturbed that warezers have been able to exploit the corporate edition of Windows XP to completely bypass WPA. They are planning to keep it a complete surprise until SP1 final has been released and shut down as many warez users from using Windows XP as possible. They know if it’s made widely known what they are planning, nobody will upgrade to SP1 until an appropriate patch has been made.</blockquote>

Shaunboyland

sneaky sneaky microsoft

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Desert_Siege

I think everyone knew this was coming and someone somewhere will always figure out a way to make it work. I bet it doesn't take 3 days after SP1 is released and someone will have a fix.

rey2002

You just have to install the last version of the beta

jessejlt

Well obviousely if it's being tested, than the new algorithm is already out...and you can bet your asses that a new keygen is in the works to compinsate.
Fuck Microshit
jesse ;-)

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ivan300

they keep on trying and they keep on failing will they ever stop. there will obviously be a crack or just a new key-gen

RadeonMAXX

Sorry Mircosoft, I admire your pride, but theres always a work around no matter what you do.

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Ban-Man

I agree with everyone that there will end up being a work around... sorry Micro$oft but for me I got my windows for $5 and it's a legit copy... called
on campus computer store=really frickin cheap prices

w|red

bring it on.

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SilentSnipeR

Wouldn't that mean that companies using the coparate version would have to go threw the anoying process of getting a new key?
Also, there's been suggestion that when slipstreaming WinXP coparate and WinXP SP1 it turns it into a WinXP Profestional version. Hence, coparate keys won't work, though retail Professtional keys will.

Maybe SP1 for coparate versions won't be downloadable.

Crash Override

I have a feeling that MS will set all the companies up with new keys in case of a reinstallation being needed....I dont see companies reformating just to install the SP1 so theyll get it on cd in 2 formats......the SP1 cd and a full out Corp with SP1 cd with a new key

Dapple

Just more sensless panic from Uncle Bill. as they say you build it and they will come and crack it.

10 to 1 the keygen is out before the service pack
Fuck we all got XP before the shops did.

Shrink

Now i'm glad I am going back to university to finish my doctorate - academic pricing, baby yeah!!

How much did you actually pay on campus? This may cause me to change my evil ways when it comes to acquiring software (at least for the next couple of years <g>).

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Jaxon

Until it gets uploaded.

Wiz4rd

The one thing I don't think microsoft realises is by now most people who use a warez version of the corp XP also has all other versions. I currently have all of the versions there are including retail. I haven't used corp for months, I only used it because nothing else was yet available.

I have retail running right now with a cdkey microsoft doesn't know about that I generated myself and replaced the old key with. Windows xp runs just fine the way it is, there is no way in hell I'm going to install SP1 as I have no need to.

I noticed windows update disabling my windows a month or so back, due to something they put in their updates. I simply changed cdkeys with my new install and bypassed it all. Misrosoft doesn't stand a chance. If they spent less time trying to keep people from pirating and instead lower the prices of their software people might concider buying it.

But 75% of the people who use it on 1 PC who sit at home are usually under 18, can't afford it. 2 or 3 hundred bucks is a lot of allowances for kids. As for adults ya most of them can afford it, but why pay for something when you can get it for free. I'm not a kid but I still download all of my software. I feel it's my way of getting even for being raped everwhere else in life.

It may be unethical to download and not pay for software, but it's just as unethical to charge the prices they do. Especially if your using it on more than 1 machine. It would have cost me thousands of dollars to upgrade my software for my business, forget that. 1 copy should suffice. Sinse it didn't I went and got my own copy, screw microsoft, like their hurting anyways, richest company in the world whines like a bunch of whores.

craig5320

Well I can see your point, but it is thier software, I think WPA was the wrong move, this I feel also moved a lot of people over to corp jus' to avoid it, many people format and install new hardware all the time, and although these changes may not be affected by WPA i feel people don't understand what or how it works, The prices are outrageous maybe if they didn't put all the development costs into features like WPA they could cut costs and maybe drop those stupid launches, the people that want it, kno it's coming out.

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Crash Override

if more people would buy windows that means ms could lower their prices plain and simple

its a never ending circle of they did, no they did fingerpointing that never ends

users pirate software so the price of that software goes up causing more pirates causing the software to get more expensive causing more pirates

see what i mean

Time

I believe this is correct, not the other way around. M$ just uses pirating as an excuse to raise prices. Poor MicroSoft doesn't have enough money? Just look at the greed in preventing a single user from installing on more than one computer? You know the big corporate users have to abide by the M$ law or be heavily fined but what's the big deal with the little home user havin a copy or two? Sure seems extreme to me!

brc64

I'd have to disagree with that. These are the same people who have GeForce4's/8500's, super fast CPUs, lots of RAM, and other stuff like that. Obviously they can afford hardware, but when it comes to spending money on something like Windows XP, all of the sudden they're flat broke? I don't believe it.. People don't pay for things because they like the idea of getting something for nothing.. plain and simple. "I can't afford it" is just an excuse, nothing more (unless you're talking about things like Photoshop, 3D Studio Max, and other insanely expensive products).

Anyways, I do wonder how this is going to affect my legitamite corporate version of WinXP (I got it from school). I wonder if I will have to call Microsoft to get a new special key or something.. I dunno..

- Me

FatalDog187

First of all, it says it doesn't cause a prob with existing corporate versions, so you can just install SP1 without problems (as the article says). It only affects the slipstreamed versions, but what's the big deal with having the full sp1 on a 2nd cd to install after?

Also, BRC64, I think people feel ripped off by MS, as I do, from paying for version after version of windows. Paying for 95, 98, ME (all included with store PCs when I bought em) makes you think, why should you pay another 200 bucks AGAIN! I personally didn't pay for XP because I'd rather spend it on better parts for my computer and thought they'd gotten a healthy chunk of $$$ from me already.

I don't like saying this, but it almost makes you a moron to pay for XP, unless your a business or something that has to. I think it's totally unfair to pay $200 for just an OS, just so you can shell out more money to buy games and other software.

Companies always complain that they have to raise their prices because of pirates, but their prices have stayed at the regular ol $40-$50, except Warcraft 3.

But, I feel that eventually everything is going to be pirated so heavily that their will be drastic increases in software prices, which would cause more pirating.

I think their will probably be a new media standard that will counter this, but then again the pc will have to be able to read it, which would allow the data to be extracted, thus allowing reproduction.

So, if MS wants to counter pirating, they will have to create some very drastic measure, which the public probably wouldn't like at all.

shai

anyway for software to be more expensive then good hardware is stupid
so ppl pirate

FatalDog187

Great way to support your opinion there...

bobgray

What is slipstreaming ????

craig5320

So the service pack is integrated into the original installer, so you can do a full install without having to seperately install the SP

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how do you slipstream .... I've never done it before.

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sonofacpu

I`ll have to disagree with brc64, I am a minor myself, and my computer isn`t the best of the best, it is not even mine, and I don`t have money to even buy a cheap 64MB RAM, so I download every version of Windows that is out (not Windows 95, I had the original).
So, that tendency can be real, but it is not always the case, I think it is the least of the cases.

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craig5320

Bascially, copy ur CD to your hard drive such as C:\WINXP

and run the update.exe on that directory.

then burn the directory to CD.

that's basically what you do, tho i'm sure someone will disagree or highlight my failings.

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bobgray

Thanks I appreciate the comeback.

bobgray

Has anyone noticed something different when installing 1078. After you tell it to install sp1 the next screen which shows the activity shows it checking the CD key. It's only on for a min but its there and its the first release that its did this with. I have a suspicion that this has been done already and MS conveinently leaked it to us as a sadistic afterthought HeHe. Wow wouldn't that be something. So if we were able to install 1078 were is fat city...Just a thought
Have a great day
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Shrink

I believe it said in the article that this will only affect making slipstream installations of XP. The exception to that will probably be the known corporate keys, our favourite that starts with FCKGW, which will be summarily disabled after applying the SP. Those keys made with the keygen will remain functional but if someone tries to make a clean slipstream XP install using one of those keys, it won't work (at least based on what I read).

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