Infinium Labs Vs. HardOCP

zerodamage · Feb 20, 2004, 04:24 AM

HARDOCP did an article on the "Phantom" console system back in September. You can read that Here Well it seems that Infinium Labs is upset about this article and want it removed in 10 days.

This is the official response from HardOCP:

"I have extended HardOCP.com's pledge to correct any and all possible inconsistencies or errors in our editorial entitled “Behind the Phantom Console” personally to Timothy Roberts and Kevin Bachus of Infinium Labs and they have yet to inform HardOCP.com of any information we presented as being not correct. This courtesy was extended on September 17, 2003, the date the article was published and has been extended several times since then with no reply ever being received by HardOCP.com. It is my opinion that Infinium Labs' only interest is stifling HardOCP.com and our opinions. HardOCP.com still stands by our thoughts and opinions put forth in our editorial and no amount of legal badgering and frivolous lawsuits will change those opinions that we have shared with our readers."

Source: Hardocp

AshG · Feb 20, 2004, 06:42 AM

There's no base for a case, the article consists of well-written and well-researched investigative journalism. After reading the attornies letters, I think that the response comes from Roberts feeling backed in the corner after a potential financial backer found the truth.

Keep up the good work, Kyle. Someone has to make sense.

Zardon · Feb 20, 2004, 09:24 AM

Some drama going on over at Hardocp today, not sure if any of you will remember the "phantom" console report a while ago, here is a refresher.

"According to Game Daily, Infinium Labs held a press conference today saying they are upset with us over our article “Behind the Phantom Console” we published in September 2003. These are the letters we received from two sets of Infinium Labs legal counsel (MoFo & IcardMerrill) telling us we have 10 days to remove the article."

Kyle has replied with:

"I have extended HardOCP.com's pledge to correct any and all possible inconsistencies or errors in our editorial entitled “Behind the Phantom Console” personally to Timothy Roberts and Kevin Bachus of Infinium Labs and they have yet to inform HardOCP.com of any information we presented as being not correct. This courtesy was extended on September 17, 2003, the date the article was published and has been extended several times since then with no reply ever being received by HardOCP.com. It is my opinion that Infinium Labs' only interest is stifling HardOCP.com and our opinions. HardOCP.com still stands by our thoughts and opinions put forth in our editorial and no amount of legal badgering and frivolous lawsuits will change those opinions that we have shared with our readers.
_____________________________

Kyle Bennett
Editor-in-Chief @ HardOCP.com"

TwistedMetal · Feb 20, 2004, 09:36 AM

You should read the review. I found it very funny.

PoopyTheJ · Feb 20, 2004, 07:53 PM

All I can say is keep up the good work Kyle! Infinium Labs is a joke.

Dyre Straits · Feb 20, 2004, 08:26 PM

I read, with great interest, the article and have to say that it was very well written with plenty of supporting research and documentation.

If Infinium Labs were to pursue a lawsuit, I'd expect they'd be shooting themselves in the foot.

PoopyTheJ · Feb 20, 2004, 10:01 PM

My rather quick and dirty email to infinium labs

Hey lay off HardOCP, just because they are reporting information which may be inconvenient or uncomfortable quit the bullying strongarm tactics. All they're doing is reporting what they uncovered as the truth, if it's false I recomend you let em now whats false or put up the truth on your website. As it stands now you're just a bunch of swindling crooks resorting to the legbreakers to get your way. Pathetic.
Andrew Rady

EDIT: After thinking about it I think everyone should fire off an email to infinium and let them know what we think of this kind of strong-arm tactics, and their vaporware products. Lets show em that the enthusiast community is a force to be reckoned with.

EcPercy · Feb 21, 2004, 12:10 AM

I would not even recommend you even waste your time typing an email to them. We all know that they are never going to mass produce this product. I know I won't be buying one.

Electroe · Feb 21, 2004, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AshG
There's no base for a case, the article consists of well-written and well-researched investigative journalism. After reading the attornies letters, I think that the response comes from Roberts feeling backed in the corner after a potential financial backer found the truth.

Keep up the good work, Kyle. Someone has to make sense.

I totally agree with you.
Upon re-reading the article, there are no points which are without concrete proof or supported evidence.
Sorry IL, the damn is breaking, no one's gonna stick their head to clog it up.

PS: I love quoting.

PoopyTheJ · Feb 21, 2004, 03:52 AM

Interestingly enough I got this from my email

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** YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE **
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The original message was received at Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:03:19 -0500 (EST)
from dhcp024-166-120-038.neo.rr.com [24.166.120.38]

----- Transcript of session follows -----
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451 infiniumlabs.com: Name server timeout
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Will keep trying until message is 2 days old

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Message-ID: <000c01c3f7ec$b14aaeb0$2678a618@enemyofthenwo>
From: "Andrew Rady" <fixed-exe@neo.rr.com>
To: <info@infiniumlabs.com>, <legal@infiniumlabs.com>
Subject: HardOCP
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:04:04 -0500
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Electroe · Feb 21, 2004, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gaborn415
Interestingly enough I got this from my email

**********************************************
** THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY **
** YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE **
**********************************************

The original message was received at Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:03:19 -0500 (EST)
from dhcp024-166-120-038.neo.rr.com [24.166.120.38]

----- Transcript of session follows -----
451 infiniumlabs.com: Name server timeout
451 infiniumlabs.com: Name server timeout
Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours
Will keep trying until message is 2 days old

..........del...............
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165
X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine

Now, even their mail server has become *cough*vaporware*cough*.

E-mail address has become the Phantom.

Feb 20, 2004, 04:24 AM	#1
zerodamage HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 3,478 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Infinium Labs Vs. HardOCP HARDOCP did an article on the "Phantom" console system back in September. You can read that Here Well it seems that Infinium Labs is upset about this article and want it removed in 10 days. This is the official response from HardOCP: "I have extended HardOCP.com's pledge to correct any and all possible inconsistencies or errors in our editorial entitled “Behind the Phantom Console” personally to Timothy Roberts and Kevin Bachus of Infinium Labs and they have yet to inform HardOCP.com of any information we presented as being not correct. This courtesy was extended on September 17, 2003, the date the article was published and has been extended several times since then with no reply ever being received by HardOCP.com. It is my opinion that Infinium Labs' only interest is stifling HardOCP.com and our opinions. HardOCP.com still stands by our thoughts and opinions put forth in our editorial and no amount of legal badgering and frivolous lawsuits will change those opinions that we have shared with our readers." Source: Hardocp

Feb 20, 2004, 06:42 AM	#2
AshG Gadget Life Owner Join Date: May 2002 Location: East TN Posts: 139 Rep Power: 0	There's no base for a case, the article consists of well-written and well-researched investigative journalism. After reading the attornies letters, I think that the response comes from Roberts feeling backed in the corner after a potential financial backer found the truth. Keep up the good work, Kyle. Someone has to make sense. __________________ [color=navy]404_Error, Signature not found[/color] [color=black][color=black]AMD AthlonXP 2500 @ 11x200[/color] - [color=navy]DFI LanParty nForce2 Ultra Rev. B[/color] - [color=black]Thermalright SLK-900A w/ Thermaltake SmartFan[/color] - [color=navy]Corsair TwinX1024 3200XLL[/color] - [color=black]FIC Radeon 9800 Pro[/color] - [color=navy]Hitachi Deskstar 7K250 SATA[/color] - [color=black]WD Raptor 36GB[/color] - [color=navy]LiteOn SOHW-832S[/color] - [color=black]PC Power and Cooling 510W Deluxe[/color] - [color=navy]CoolerMaster CMStacker Case[/color][/color]

Feb 20, 2004, 09:24 AM	#3
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Infinium Labs Vs. HardOCP Legal Battle Some drama going on over at Hardocp today, not sure if any of you will remember the "phantom" console report a while ago, here is a refresher. "According to Game Daily, Infinium Labs held a press conference today saying they are upset with us over our article “Behind the Phantom Console” we published in September 2003. These are the letters we received from two sets of Infinium Labs legal counsel (MoFo & IcardMerrill) telling us we have 10 days to remove the article." Kyle has replied with: "I have extended HardOCP.com's pledge to correct any and all possible inconsistencies or errors in our editorial entitled “Behind the Phantom Console” personally to Timothy Roberts and Kevin Bachus of Infinium Labs and they have yet to inform HardOCP.com of any information we presented as being not correct. This courtesy was extended on September 17, 2003, the date the article was published and has been extended several times since then with no reply ever being received by HardOCP.com. It is my opinion that Infinium Labs' only interest is stifling HardOCP.com and our opinions. HardOCP.com still stands by our thoughts and opinions put forth in our editorial and no amount of legal badgering and frivolous lawsuits will change those opinions that we have shared with our readers. _____________________________ Kyle Bennett Editor-in-Chief @ HardOCP.com"

Feb 20, 2004, 09:36 AM	#4
TwistedMetal MC John-117 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 728 Rep Power: 0	You should read the review. I found it very funny. __________________ [color=red][/color]

Feb 20, 2004, 07:53 PM	#5
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 66	All I can say is keep up the good work Kyle! Infinium Labs is a joke. __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

Feb 20, 2004, 10:01 PM	#7
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 66	My rather quick and dirty email to infinium labs Hey lay off HardOCP, just because they are reporting information which may be inconvenient or uncomfortable quit the bullying strongarm tactics. All they're doing is reporting what they uncovered as the truth, if it's false I recomend you let em now whats false or put up the truth on your website. As it stands now you're just a bunch of swindling crooks resorting to the legbreakers to get your way. Pathetic. Andrew Rady EDIT: After thinking about it I think everyone should fire off an email to infinium and let them know what we think of this kind of strong-arm tactics, and their vaporware products. Lets show em that the enthusiast community is a force to be reckoned with. __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR] Last edited by PoopyTheJ; Feb 20, 2004 at 10:32 PM.

Feb 21, 2004, 12:10 AM	#8
EcPercy HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Iraq Posts: 1,535 Rep Power: 0	I would not even recommend you even waste your time typing an email to them. We all know that they are never going to mass produce this product. I know I won't be buying one.

Feb 21, 2004, 03:52 AM	#10
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 66	Interestingly enough I got this from my email ******************************************** THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE ******************************************** The original message was received at Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:03:19 -0500 (EST) from dhcp024-166-120-038.neo.rr.com [24.166.120.38] ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 451 infiniumlabs.com: Name server timeout 451 infiniumlabs.com: Name server timeout Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours Will keep trying until message is 2 days old -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Received: from enemyofthenwo (dhcp024-166-120-038.neo.rr.com [24.166.120.38]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id i1KK3J4B006353; Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:03:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000c01c3f7ec$b14aaeb0$2678a618@enemyofthenwo> From: "Andrew Rady" <fixed-exe@neo.rr.com> To: <info@infiniumlabs.com>, <legal@infiniumlabs.com> Subject: HardOCP Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:04:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C3F7C2.C7D27340" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]