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Old Aug 10, 2002, 09:14 PM   #1
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Thanks <a target="_blank" href="http://slashdot.org/index.pl">Slashdot</a> for the article

<i>"Yahoo has published a news about proposal of 19 lawmakers to prosecute P2P systems' users. Allthough Texas Republican Rep. Lamar Smith, said that FBI should not go for casual users but but instead to go after operators of "network "nodes", there is not enough info in the story to see if this "should" will change to "must in addition to", if or when trying to arrest major node operators fails to curtain song swapping online. Of course, questions of what to do about foreign users and foreign music are omitted. RIAA claps its hands. I guess we should expect network congestion because of users, downloading everything in their sight to beat this initiative."</i>

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Old Aug 10, 2002, 09:21 PM   #2
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man wtf? Do they really think that can stop file sharing? IF they stop the network nodes will find more and faster ways to connect and if they stop them then find even more.
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Old Aug 11, 2002, 10:31 AM   #3
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You can't blame them for trying. No matter how you defend it, it's still against the law to download music you don't own. The Recording Industry may be a bunch of jerks, but they still have an obligation to protect what is theirs. Same thing with Microsoft and all the WPA crap. There will always be a workaround.. some alternative.. but don't expect anything to last forever.

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Old Aug 11, 2002, 02:53 PM   #4
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It doesn't need to last forever. Just as long as I'm / we're alive will do.

Thought for the day: In terms of the normal lifespan of a human being the world has already lasted forever...
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Old Aug 11, 2002, 03:04 PM   #5
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I know that its against the law im not sayin that i support P2P or that i dont. And i do understand that want to protect there investment and all. All im sayin is that if they stop one way theres gonna be another way spring up and then there back at square one.
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Old Aug 11, 2002, 05:41 PM   #6
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I'm not worried.

Its like trying to stop all the people on the highways of America from speeding.
Its virtually and physically impossible.
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Old Aug 11, 2002, 05:54 PM   #7
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yeah i got to agree with The | Cruise because by the time we are all dead it will probably be either the govt. , AOL , or M$ or posibly a merger of alll three controlling the internet. Anyway what a scarry idea
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Old Aug 12, 2002, 04:57 AM   #8
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expext slow speeds lol
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Old Aug 12, 2002, 05:01 AM   #9
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You know, I was always taught that sharing was a good thing.

I can understand the Entertainment Industry's state of panic. I can record/download any tune I want (practically) for free instead of paying for it(until they beat "what you hear" recording, how can they stop me?). One person buys the latest music release and rips it to his MP3 collection, then he/she boots up a file sharing program and BOOM everyone in the world can get the song for free. Yes, I can understand their pain. I can see (from that business standpoint) why they want better copy-protection and control of their properties.

BUT I draw the line at letting them hack into my PC with the intent of destroying data. They have no right to invade my personal space. They can prevent me from adding to it, but don't touch what I already got!

As long as it's as easy as it is to get stuff without paying for it, why would I really want to go out and BUY it? It's right here, on this "freeware" file-sharing program that I downloaded, for nuthin'. I didn't have to get off my butt, I didn't have to go anywhere, and I didn't have to pull out my wallet......you get the idea.

There will always be another file-sharing program that comes up when an old one goes down, "free" is cheaper than "pay". The "Industry" will find a way to stop it. Oh yes, they WILL find a way.

The people of the world are doing want they want, how they want on the internet, mostly for free and with little to no regard for the law or "The INDUSTRY". And "they" can't stand it. Money greases the gears of society. It doesn't make the government happy when THEY aren't getting any tax money. If the Entertainment Industry ain't makin' no cash, then neither is the gov. And who do you think the "money-mongers" are going to side with, hmmm? the "INDUSTRY" or the people who are freely "sharing"?

It's only a matter of time before the free-ride is over, you can be sure of that. Money will protect money. It will sooner or later become VERY difficult to have fun<-get free stuff) on the net. Boy! bandwidth will be freed up across the world when that happens.

BTW, I actually go to the store and BUY my PC games. And as far as music CD's, well, I actually bought 2 about 3 weeks ago(first time in years ). When there's more than 1 or 2 good songs on a CD, I'll buy it. But I'm always looking for the CHEAPEST deal, aren't you? Uh-Huh, that's what I thought.
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Old Aug 12, 2002, 07:03 AM   #10
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HaHa ... thats a joke! They can "never" stop it completely, there will ALWAYS be some place somewhere to get songs, files, programs, or whatever it is you want. They might be able to make it to where its not a easy as it is right now ... but it's a useless fight, it's kinda like MS trying to stop pirating of software, and beta leaks from occuring ... LOL?!?! Computers are flawless, but the people who operate them aren't, and as long as someone is operating one, there will always be a person thats gonna put it up on the web for everyone to grab!
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I'm not worried.

Its like trying to stop all the people on the highways of America from speeding.
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HaHa ... thats a joke! They can "never" stop it completely, there will ALWAYS be some place somewhere to get songs, files, programs, or whatever it is you want. They might be able to make it to where its not a easy as it is right now ... but it's a useless fight, it's kinda like MS trying to stop pirating of software, and beta leaks from occuring ... LOL?!?! Computers are flawless, but the people who operate them aren't, and as long as someone is operating one, there will always be a person thats gonna put it up on the web for everyone to grab!
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Music Industry Unveils New Piracy-Proof Format: A Black, Plastic Disc With Grooves On It
Music bosses have unveiled a revolutionary new recording format that they hope will help win the war on illegal file sharing which is thought to be costing the industry millions of dollars in lost revenue.
Nicknamed the 'Record', the new format takes the form of a black, vinyl disc measuring 12 inches in diameter, which must be played on a specially designed 'turntable'.
"We can state with absolute certainty that no computer in the world can access the data on this disc," said spokesman Brett Campbell. "We are also confident that no-one is going to be able to produce pirate copies in this format without going to a heck of a lot of trouble. This is without doubt the best anti-piracy invention the music industry has ever seen."
As part of the invention's rigorous testing process, the designers gave some discs to a group of teenage computer experts who regularly use file swapping software such as Limewire and gnutella and who admit to pirating music CDs.
Despite several days of trying, none of them were able to hack into the disc's code or access any of the music files contained within it.

"It's like, really big and stuff," said Doug Flamboise, one of the testers. "I couldn't get it into any of my drives. I mean, what format is it? Is it, like, from France or something?"

In the new format, raw audio data in the form of music is encoded by physically etching grooves onto the vinyl disc. The sound is thus translated into variations on the disc's surface in a process that industry insiders are describing as 'completely revolutionary' and 'stunningly clever.'

To decode the data stored on the disc, the listener must use a special player which contains a 'needle' that runs along the grooves on the record surface, reading the indentations and transforming the movements back into audio that can be fed through loudspeakers.
Even Shawn Fanning, the man who invented Napster, admits the new format will make file swapping much more difficult. "I've never seen anything like this," he told reporters. "How does it work?"
As rumours that a Taiwanese company has been secretly developing a
12 inch wide, turntable -driven, needle-based, firewire drive remain unconfirmed,
it would appear that the music industry may, at last, have found the pirate-proof
format it has long been searching for.

Nah it will never catch on..........

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