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Old May 27, 2004, 09:21 AM   #1
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AMD's 64-bits better than Intel's 64-bits - Microsoft

A WIDE-RANGING interview with Microsoft senior VP Bob Muglia has revealed that the software giant believes not only that there are differences between iAMD64 and Intel's EM64T but that the former is better than the latter.

The interview, on WinSuperSite covers a lot more of the Microsoft roadmap than just iAMD64, but what Muglia has to say about AMD64 versus EM64T is very revealing indeed, and confirms earlier stories about collaboration with the chip contender.

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Old May 27, 2004, 10:32 AM   #3
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Another large company taking their rightful place at the top Hopefully.
I'd rather hope not, the price/performance difference between AMD & Intel isn't that big anymore, AMD better watch their prices.
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Good to see AMD getting the respect it deserves.


Btw, what has Intel done to close the gap Hawk? They haven't released a new cpu is ages...
And how can you complain about AMD prices, they seem to be very competitive to Intel's
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Good to see AMD getting the respect it deserves.


Btw, what has Intel done to close the gap Hawk? They haven't released a new cpu is ages...
And how can you complain about AMD prices, they seem to be very competitive to Intel's
No Intel has done nothing to lower the price gap, but if I look to somewhat comparable procs. it is getting closer IMO;
Pentium 4 3,2GHz (800MHz FSB, 1MB, Boxed) price 272 euro (holland)
AMD XP3200+ Barton (Boxed), price 235 euro (holland)

and if it wasen't for the need of another Mobo, I'd choose the pentium.. maybe
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Old May 27, 2004, 01:56 PM   #6
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No Intel has done nothing to lower the price gap, but if I look to somewhat comparable procs. it is getting closer IMO;
Pentium 4 3,2GHz (800MHz FSB, 1MB, Boxed) price 272 euro (holland)
AMD XP3200+ Barton (Boxed), price 235 euro (holland)

and if it wasen't for the need of another Mobo, I'd choose the pentium.. maybe
Wow, that sounds a little too expensive for a 3200+ XP. Sometimes I forget that not all of us live in the US when I say those things but over here AMD seems to be matching the P4 prices with their A64 line up which is good business IMO. Of course you know what I would pick
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Wow, that sounds a little too expensive for a 3200+ XP. Sometimes I forget that not all of us live in the US when I say those things but over here AMD seems to be matching the P4 prices with their A64 line up which is good business IMO. Of course you know what I would pick
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hehe, that would be nice
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Up here it's a little strange...

It's very close here as well (excluding the EE)

Intel Pentium4 PRESCOTT 3.4GHz 1MB/800FSB Processor, Retail goes for $664.00 CAD
AMD Athlon64 3400+ Processor, Retail goes for $638.00 CAD.

The price gap isn't as huge as before.

Here's the mid-range prices

Intel Pentium4 PRESCOTT 2.8GHz 1MB/800FSB Processor, Retail goes for $295.00 CAD
AMD Athlon64 2800+ Processor, Retail goes for $284.00 CAD

Same dealie.

Either AMD have been ramping up their prices to gain profit, but stay cheaper.. or Intel has been lowering their prices to become more desirable.
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The price gap isn't as huge as before.

I agree, but I also agree with kakarot to a point - Intel have cut prices here recently apart from the EE (which is in its own little zone) - which make them much more competitive - unfortunately intel havent really released anything new apart from the decidedly average performing and hot running prescott. AMD 64 bit processor prices arent in the same cut price league as the bartons and the thoroughbreds used to be - but some justification could be made for "64 bit technology". AMD IMO still need to cut prices to make the 64 bit market more attractive to the mass public.

The FX and EE market is really quite extortionate atm, but if I had a choice i would still go for the EE because of its superior video and audio en/decoding, but I certainly wouldnt pay the vast sums of money for either. Almost £700 here for the EE and £600 for the FX53.
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I'd rather hope not, the price/performance difference between AMD & Intel isn't that big anymore, AMD better watch their prices.
yea but when they've been price gougeing for the last 10+years it sorta should factor in....

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No Intel has done nothing to lower the price gap, but if I look to somewhat comparable procs. it is getting closer IMO;
Pentium 4 3,2GHz (800MHz FSB, 1MB, Boxed) price 272 euro (holland)
AMD XP3200+ Barton (Boxed), price 235 euro (holland)

and if it wasen't for the need of another Mobo, I'd choose the pentium.. maybe
well what I wonder is how the cpu amd's and intels are only like 98% the same(thier registers) since intel based thier 64 bit off of an AMD proto type since they apear to haveing alot of troble and mabe would of tooke them a good year or two to come up with a proto type little lone a shipable processor. I think it's shady that intel blatently stole AMD tech but get away with it useing a legal loop hole thats how this 64 cpu of thiers showed up real fast.

other wise intel would be setting out in the cold wishing for sales come next year
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intel blatently stole AMD tech but get away with it useing a legal loop hole
then I guess AMD "stole" MMX, SSE, SSE2, heck all of x86? not a "loop hole", it's called cross-licensing
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