DH Review: ATI R423

Slayer[SS] · Jun 24, 2004, 02:51 PM

I have a question. The AGP version of the card is the Platinum Edition and the PCIe version is the non-Platinum version, correct? Is there a difference in the clock speeds? I'm just curious...

Zardon · Jun 24, 2004, 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by Slayer[SS]
I have a question. The AGP version of the card is the Platinum Edition and the PCIe version is the non-Platinum version, correct? Is there a difference in the clock speeds? I'm just curious...

Correct: 500/500 and 520/560.
Testing setup, page 2 details this and the fact the AGP board was underclocked to 500/500 to match.

"For the purposes of the review due to the core and ram timing differences between the AGP X800XTPE 520/560 and the PCIe (non PE) 500/500, the AGP counterpart was underclocked to match."

Slayer[SS] · Jun 24, 2004, 03:11 PM

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Originally posted by Zardon
Correct: 500/500 and 520/560.
Testing setup, page 2 details this and the fact the AGP board was underclocked to 500/500 to match.

"For the purposes of the review due to the core and ram timing differences between the AGP X800XTPE 520/560 and the PCIe (non PE) 500/500, the AGP counterpart was underclocked to match."

Heh, see what I get for skimming the review? Thanks Zardon!

In light of this, I totally agree that there's no compelling reason to go to PCIe at this time. It holds a great deal of promise, but I think I'll personally wait a year or so and see what's best then. I plan to buy a step down from the top of the line card from either ATI or Nvidia this fall and I'm thinking I'll be happy with that for a year or more...

Zardon · Jun 24, 2004, 03:18 PM

im surprised no one has commented on the peak fps results in some of the tests and the fact the PCIe seems to "win" alot of those. A little hint of the extra bandwidth which will be fully exploited by future hardware perhaps ....

BWX · Jun 24, 2004, 07:22 PM

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Originally posted by Zardon
im surprised no one has commented on the peak fps results in some of the tests and the fact the PCIe seems to "win" alot of those. A little hint of the extra bandwidth which will be fully exploited by future hardware perhaps ....

I was more amazed at the lowest fps scores @ 1600 x 1200 4xAA & 16xAF..

**Roadee** · Jun 24, 2004, 11:21 PM

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Originally posted by Zardon
im surprised no one has commented on the peak fps results in some of the tests and the fact the PCIe seems to "win" alot of those. A little hint of the extra bandwidth which will be fully exploited by future hardware perhaps ....

I was looking at that........have you tried to use the extra bandwidth in any way? Or is there even a way, currently, to take advantage of the extra bandwidth?

Vampyromaniac · Jun 25, 2004, 09:52 PM

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Originally posted by Zardon
A little hint of the extra bandwidth which will be fully exploited by future hardware perhaps ....

we may never know . . . .

BWX · Jun 25, 2004, 09:54 PM

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Originally posted by Vampyromaniac
we may never know . . . .

Why not? Do you plan on going somewhere in the future where you won't see any new hardware?

Vampyromaniac · Jun 25, 2004, 10:03 PM

there may not be any AGP versions of the future cards, to compare to the PCIe versions, to see if the bandwidth is any factor.

BWX · Jun 25, 2004, 11:41 PM

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Originally posted by Vampyromaniac
there may not be any AGP versions of the future cards, to compare to the PCIe versions, to see if the bandwidth is any factor.

Ahhh, can't compare something that doesn't exist. Pretty convenient for them huh..

RaWShadow · Jun 27, 2004, 09:58 AM

AGP 8x does not really bring any benifits over 4x yet so its gonna be along time before pcie brings any. Its just being released now to future proof themselves.

BWX · Jun 27, 2004, 01:48 PM

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Originally posted by RaWShadow
AGP 8x does not really bring any benifits over 4x yet so its gonna be along time before pcie brings any. Its just being released now to future proof themselves.

LOL- then they limit themselves to 75 watts in the process-- ironic, the thing they need, they get wrong, te thing they don't need, they go overkill.

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Jun 24, 2004, 02:51 PM	#31
Slayer[SS] DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minnesota, USA Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	I have a question. The AGP version of the card is the Platinum Edition and the PCIe version is the non-Platinum version, correct? Is there a difference in the clock speeds? I'm just curious...

Jun 24, 2004, 03:18 PM	Thread Starter #34
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	im surprised no one has commented on the peak fps results in some of the tests and the fact the PCIe seems to "win" alot of those. A little hint of the extra bandwidth which will be fully exploited by future hardware perhaps ....

Jun 27, 2004, 09:58 AM	#41
RaWShadow DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	AGP 8x does not really bring any benifits over 4x yet so its gonna be along time before pcie brings any. Its just being released now to future proof themselves.