DH Review: ATI R423

Zardon · Jun 23, 2004, 09:54 PM

Recently I reviewed ATIs newest mid level card the X600XT and while it struggled a little at the highest resolutions it walked away with a silver medal for its low power consumption, overall performance, value for money and high 2D and 3D image quality.

It is with alot of interest today I turn Driverheavens new test rig to the PCIe version of the gold award winning powerhouse that is the X800XT.

This specific card we are reviewing today, codenamed The R423 is the non platinium edition meaning it is clocked at 500mhz core and 500/1000mhz ram.

read the review here

qballshalls2002 · Jun 23, 2004, 10:10 PM

Great review Zardon.Ill be looking forward for a PCIe vs AGP 8x article.

Chaos · Jun 23, 2004, 10:18 PM

Interesting review, I was somewhat disappointed that even with systems like the test righ that the new PCIe really showed no reason to change platforms, which in my case is good because I can't afford new toys anyway

Zardon · Jun 23, 2004, 10:19 PM

Its early days. The PCIe platform has alot of potential.

Dom · Jun 23, 2004, 11:00 PM

Interesting article and nice work on the Flash.

dipstick · Jun 23, 2004, 11:16 PM

Nice review bud. Definitely seems best to stick with AGP this round, in a year things will be different though

Judas · Jun 24, 2004, 12:21 AM

i got a question.... When comparing the AGP to PCI in that last part in the conclusion..... why is the AGP version running 1600x1200 and the PCI-EX running 1280x1024?... (bit confused i am)..... As for the review.... the results look promissing... most of all the things right now that could be slowing it down is hardware..... it's not taking full advantage of various things... (even if there isn't hardware that can take on the PCI-EX... but bonuses with it should be somewhat seen... then again.... to many factors)

**Roadee** · Jun 24, 2004, 12:40 AM

Excellent reviews on the PCIe cards

It will be nice to see what the next round brings with it. I want to see how socket 939 and PCIe will make a difference......if any.....on the gaming benchmarks.

KoVaR · Jun 24, 2004, 12:41 AM

can someone help me pls
i can't see a single graph (or whatever is it)
flash objects are not loading

i have no problems with other sites and flash; just here

Judas · Jun 24, 2004, 01:10 AM

i had this issue one time kovar.... try and uninstall macromedia flash AND shockwave players.. (windows/Downloaded Program Files) .... make sure they aren't working.... (go to a site that has it flash.. and don't allow it to install..)..... then restart the computer.... next... go to macromedia.com and make sure you grab both of the latest... reboot after.... this should cure it up...

Dom · Jun 24, 2004, 01:10 AM

Try clearing your Internet cache/cookies for DH.

Judas · Jun 24, 2004, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dom
Try clearing your Internet cache/cookies for DH.

uh yeah.. do that as well.. forgot about that.

BWX · Jun 24, 2004, 01:54 AM

It would be interesting to compare AGP set to 4x and compare it with PCIe.. -Off to read review.l

***Veridian3*** · Jun 24, 2004, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BWX
It would be interesting to compare AGP set to 4x and compare it with PCIe.. -Off to read review.l

There were some initial tests run at 4x to see if there were any differences compared to PCI-express and 8x...noting noteworthy was found.

Judas · Jun 24, 2004, 08:26 AM

i don't recall... there wasn't anything new introduced with 8x was there?

~~HawK~~ · Jun 24, 2004, 09:00 AM

Remember the move from PCI to AGP, AGP in it's early day's wasn't much faster than PCI,
nowadays no gamer would use a PCI graphic Card

If PCI-E is the "savior" remains open for now, imho.

Good Review Z. honest & clear, as usual

Danhill · Jun 24, 2004, 09:15 AM

Excellent review as always Zardon.

BWX · Jun 24, 2004, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Veridian3
There were some initial tests run at 4x to see if there were any differences compared to PCI-express and 8x...noting noteworthy was found.

Very interesting.

Zardon · Jun 24, 2004, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BWX
It would be interesting to compare AGP set to 4x and compare it with PCIe.. -Off to read review.l

I can try some farcry figures at 1600x1200 4AA 16 aniso with an extreme edition AGP system at 3.8ghz with AGP set to 8x and 4x if anyone is interested ...........

Danhill · Jun 24, 2004, 09:45 AM

Is there any game that currently uses the the advantage of agp 8??

Zardon · Jun 24, 2004, 09:46 AM

if any will, farcry will at extreme settings, ill post some figures later also ensuring as best I can its not CPU limited.......

**Roadee** · Jun 24, 2004, 10:23 AM

Sounds great!! Just curious......for classic benchmark's sake

Could you show us the best you can get on 3DMark2001se? I know that DH doesn't use it for reviews......but I am sure that the guys on the Fastest Rig Comp would love to see it

Or at least I would.

Zardon · Jun 24, 2004, 10:31 AM

3.4ghz on PCIe 25,452
3.4ghz on AGP 25.634
3.9ghz on AGP 28,750.

**Roadee** · Jun 24, 2004, 10:33 AM

Sweet scores!!

Have you broken 30k yet....personally?

Zardon · Jun 24, 2004, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roadee
Sweet scores!! Have you broken 30k yet....personally?

I put some insane volts through the 3.4 on AGP ran at over 4,050mhz and hit 29,350k but its not 24/7 speeds..... I can run at 3.9ghz at 1.7 volts.

**Roadee** · Jun 24, 2004, 10:45 AM

Sooooooo close

Um......we sure could use an entry in the Fastest Rig Comp for Intel Super Mod!!! Seems that no one is entering there scores for it

Could give them something to work for.....and make the AMD guys VERY nervouse......

germanjulian · Jun 24, 2004, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
3.4ghz on PCIe 25,452
3.4ghz on AGP 25.634
3.9ghz on AGP 28,750.

woot 9Ghz.... is that a typo your are you using SMTP system?

**MIG-31** · Jun 24, 2004, 12:37 PM

Quote:

3.9ghz on AGP 28,750.

looks to me it's his overclocked score!

Zardon · Jun 24, 2004, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by germanjulian
woot 9Ghz.... is that a typo your are you using SMTP system?

3.9ghz.

germanjulian · Jun 24, 2004, 12:52 PM

[julian smacks head against table] sorry guys 4 hours sleep aint enough for me...

Jun 23, 2004, 09:54 PM	#1
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	DH Review: ATI R423 Recently I reviewed ATIs newest mid level card the X600XT and while it struggled a little at the highest resolutions it walked away with a silver medal for its low power consumption, overall performance, value for money and high 2D and 3D image quality. It is with alot of interest today I turn Driverheavens new test rig to the PCIe version of the gold award winning powerhouse that is the X800XT. This specific card we are reviewing today, codenamed The R423 is the non platinium edition meaning it is clocked at 500mhz core and 500/1000mhz ram. read the review here

Jun 23, 2004, 10:18 PM	#3
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,268 Rep Power: 167 System Specs	Interesting review, I was somewhat disappointed that even with systems like the test righ that the new PCIe really showed no reason to change platforms, which in my case is good because I can't afford new toys anyway __________________

Jun 24, 2004, 12:40 AM	#8
Roadee Never forgotten Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rest In peace, Joe. Posts: 2,198 Rep Power: 69	Excellent reviews on the PCIe cards It will be nice to see what the next round brings with it. I want to see how socket 939 and PCIe will make a difference......if any.....on the gaming benchmarks. __________________ We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things get worse.

Jun 24, 2004, 01:54 AM	#13
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	It would be interesting to compare AGP set to 4x and compare it with PCIe.. -Off to read review.l __________________

Jun 24, 2004, 09:15 AM	#17
Danhill DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 4,112 Rep Power: 0	Excellent review as always Zardon. __________________ MOBO: [color=white]ASUS A8N-SLI Premium[/color] CPU: AMD 64 3200+ (Venice) @ 2,50 Ghz MEM: 2 x 512 DDR 466, VGA: 2 x 6600 GT in SLI, HDD1: WD Raptor HDD2: Maxtor Diamond Plus 9, Case: Antec Plus View 1080, PSU: ThermalTake PurePower 500W, MX 1000, Dell 2001 FP, Aud. 2 SZ

Jun 23, 2004, 10:10 PM	#2
qballshalls2002 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: USA Posts: 33 Rep Power: 0	Great review Zardon.Ill be looking forward for a PCIe vs AGP 8x article.

Jun 23, 2004, 10:19 PM	Thread Starter #4
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Its early days. The PCIe platform has alot of potential.

Jun 23, 2004, 11:00 PM	#5
Dom DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,940 Rep Power: 0	Interesting article and nice work on the Flash.

Jun 23, 2004, 11:16 PM	#6
dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	Nice review bud. Definitely seems best to stick with AGP this round, in a year things will be different though

Jun 24, 2004, 12:41 AM	#9
KoVaR DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: far far in YUROPE Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	can someone help me pls i can't see a single graph (or whatever is it) flash objects are not loading i have no problems with other sites and flash; just here

Jun 24, 2004, 01:10 AM	#11
Dom DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,940 Rep Power: 0	Try clearing your Internet cache/cookies for DH.

Jun 24, 2004, 09:00 AM	#16
~~HawK~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,092 Rep Power: 0	Remember the move from PCI to AGP, AGP in it's early day's wasn't much faster than PCI, nowadays no gamer would use a PCI graphic Card If PCI-E is the "savior" remains open for now, imho. Good Review Z. honest & clear, as usual

Jun 24, 2004, 09:45 AM	#20
Danhill DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 4,112 Rep Power: 0	Is there any game that currently uses the the advantage of agp 8?? __________________ MOBO: [color=white]ASUS A8N-SLI Premium[/color] CPU: AMD 64 3200+ (Venice) @ 2,50 Ghz MEM: 2 x 512 DDR 466, VGA: 2 x 6600 GT in SLI, HDD1: WD Raptor HDD2: Maxtor Diamond Plus 9, Case: Antec Plus View 1080, PSU: ThermalTake PurePower 500W, MX 1000, Dell 2001 FP, Aud. 2 SZ

Jun 24, 2004, 09:46 AM	Thread Starter #21
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	if any will, farcry will at extreme settings, ill post some figures later also ensuring as best I can its not CPU limited.......

Jun 24, 2004, 10:23 AM	#22
Roadee Never forgotten Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rest In peace, Joe. Posts: 2,198 Rep Power: 69	Sounds great!! Just curious......for classic benchmark's sake Could you show us the best you can get on 3DMark2001se? I know that DH doesn't use it for reviews......but I am sure that the guys on the Fastest Rig Comp would love to see it Or at least I would. __________________ We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things get worse.

Jun 24, 2004, 10:31 AM	Thread Starter #23
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	3.4ghz on PCIe 25,452 3.4ghz on AGP 25.634 3.9ghz on AGP 28,750.

Jun 24, 2004, 10:33 AM	#24
Roadee Never forgotten Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rest In peace, Joe. Posts: 2,198 Rep Power: 69	Sweet scores!! Have you broken 30k yet....personally? __________________ We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things get worse.

Jun 24, 2004, 10:45 AM	#26
Roadee Never forgotten Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rest In peace, Joe. Posts: 2,198 Rep Power: 69	Sooooooo close Um......we sure could use an entry in the Fastest Rig Comp for Intel Super Mod!!! Seems that no one is entering there scores for it Could give them something to work for.....and make the AMD guys VERY nervouse...... __________________ We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things get worse.

Jun 24, 2004, 12:52 PM	#30
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