Gigabyte accuses ASUS of cheating

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Aug 3, 2004, 03:59 PM

"MAJOR MOBO MAKER Gigabyte has hit out at its competitor Asus accusing of it cheating on 925X/915X scores.
The allegation is that Asus 925X/915P series moteherboards score much higher in some 3D graphics performance tests. In a media release, Gigabyte said "we have found that Asus has been doing some cheating".

Gigabyte claims that "out of curiosity" it tested the Asus PSAD2 Premium board and discovered a setting called Peg Link Mode. "This setting clandestinely oveclocks the frequency of memory and core engines of ATI based PCI Express Graphics," Gigabyte alleged.

"It was also found that Peg Link Mode is not an enhancement feature for [the] motherboard, as it provides enhancement only to the graphics card's memory and core engine frequency, ostensibly with the sole purpose to obtain higher benchmark results on 3D graphics".

Gigabyte further claims the special setting hasn't been revealed to the public or the media.

"[It] is misleading to the public, seeks an unfair means to gain an advantage over the competition, and frankly sets a bad example which competitors may be forced to follow," said Gigabyte. "We urge all motherboard manufacturers to adhere to common professional standards of providing full disclosure of and special systems settings or modifications to the public, media, or review publications so that the consumer can make an educated purchase," it said.

Asus has not commented on the allegations so far."

Source: The Inquirer

Zelig · Aug 3, 2004, 08:29 PM

This could be bad if it's true... I like Asus for the most part, and will eagerly await their response to this.

pr0digal jenius · Aug 4, 2004, 01:25 AM

am i the only one who doesn't see this as cheating, but more an extension of their AI Overclocking stuff???

nForcer · Aug 4, 2004, 02:15 AM

Neon just likes to throw his 2 cents of negativity in every situation. His posts can almost be ignored automaticly due to irrelivance. Sorry bro, but you are the most negative 'reply-er' on the board.

krazy1 · Aug 4, 2004, 02:40 AM

GRRRRRRR I am SOO tired of everyone pointing fingers and saying "so and so is cheating..." sound like a bunch of 3 year olds.... Show me the rule book first before you call it cheating.....

kelston · Aug 4, 2004, 02:42 AM

If the vid cards got overclocked, wouldn't benchmarking utilities report the fact that the speeds are different.

pr0digal jenius · Aug 4, 2004, 02:42 AM

his sounds much mroe like an overclockign technique then anything else

if anyone should be mad it's nVidia...lol

Judas · Aug 4, 2004, 02:49 AM

hmmm ..mixed feelings here....

Zelig · Aug 4, 2004, 01:53 PM

I wouldn't actually mind this "feature" at all, it would just be much better if it was documented, and able to be turned off.

EcPercy · Aug 5, 2004, 12:45 AM

The point that Gigabyte made is that they used an undisclosed feature to "rig" benchmarking testing. I think that is cheating, but really.. a feature that increases my video card clock speed without asking me is not right. I don't want anything oc'ed as this voids the warranty in most situations. I will stay away from their products. I prefer Gigabyte myself as I have one in my current system and my old Gigabyte board that is in my server is still going strong.

Judas · Aug 5, 2004, 12:50 AM

gigabyte do make one hell of a stable motherboard... and still provide good selection of features and functions.. you can still overclock... but it's dumby proof.... bios updating is absalutely a breeze now..

Aug 3, 2004, 03:59 PM	#1
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	Gigabyte accuses ASUS of cheating "MAJOR MOBO MAKER Gigabyte has hit out at its competitor Asus accusing of it cheating on 925X/915X scores. The allegation is that Asus 925X/915P series moteherboards score much higher in some 3D graphics performance tests. In a media release, Gigabyte said "we have found that Asus has been doing some cheating". Gigabyte claims that "out of curiosity" it tested the Asus PSAD2 Premium board and discovered a setting called Peg Link Mode. "This setting clandestinely oveclocks the frequency of memory and core engines of ATI based PCI Express Graphics," Gigabyte alleged. "It was also found that Peg Link Mode is not an enhancement feature for [the] motherboard, as it provides enhancement only to the graphics card's memory and core engine frequency, ostensibly with the sole purpose to obtain higher benchmark results on 3D graphics". Gigabyte further claims the special setting hasn't been revealed to the public or the media. "[It] is misleading to the public, seeks an unfair means to gain an advantage over the competition, and frankly sets a bad example which competitors may be forced to follow," said Gigabyte. "We urge all motherboard manufacturers to adhere to common professional standards of providing full disclosure of and special systems settings or modifications to the public, media, or review publications so that the consumer can make an educated purchase," it said. Asus has not commented on the allegations so far." Source: The Inquirer

Aug 4, 2004, 02:40 AM	#5
krazy1 Live from the Dungeon Join Date: May 2003 Location: Between the SubWoofers Posts: 1,395 Rep Power: 0	GRRRRRRR I am SOO tired of everyone pointing fingers and saying "so and so is cheating..." sound like a bunch of 3 year olds.... Show me the rule book first before you call it cheating..... __________________

Aug 3, 2004, 08:29 PM	#2
Zelig HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,187 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	This could be bad if it's true... I like Asus for the most part, and will eagerly await their response to this.

Aug 4, 2004, 01:25 AM	#3
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	am i the only one who doesn't see this as cheating, but more an extension of their AI Overclocking stuff???

Aug 4, 2004, 02:15 AM	#4
nForcer Twice the fun! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,404 Rep Power: 0	Neon just likes to throw his 2 cents of negativity in every situation. His posts can almost be ignored automaticly due to irrelivance. Sorry bro, but you are the most negative 'reply-er' on the board.

Aug 4, 2004, 02:42 AM	#6
kelston HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bayside, NY USA Posts: 360 Rep Power: 0	If the vid cards got overclocked, wouldn't benchmarking utilities report the fact that the speeds are different.

Aug 4, 2004, 01:53 PM	#9
Zelig HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,187 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	I wouldn't actually mind this "feature" at all, it would just be much better if it was documented, and able to be turned off.

Aug 5, 2004, 12:45 AM	#10
EcPercy HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Iraq Posts: 1,535 Rep Power: 0	The point that Gigabyte made is that they used an undisclosed feature to "rig" benchmarking testing. I think that is cheating, but really.. a feature that increases my video card clock speed without asking me is not right. I don't want anything oc'ed as this voids the warranty in most situations. I will stay away from their products. I prefer Gigabyte myself as I have one in my current system and my old Gigabyte board that is in my server is still going strong.