Intel to launch 600-series CPUs in 1Q 2005, remove 700-series from roadmap

No_Style · Sep 1, 2004, 03:25 PM

Intel has tentatively decided to remove the 700-series processors from its roadmap. Instead, the chip giant plans to launch a 600-series lineup of Pentium 4 CPUs for desktops in the first quarter of next year, according to sources.

Intel plans to initially launch four 600-series models, with clock speeds ranging from 3.2 to 3.8GHz. The 600-series processors will have an 800MHz front side bus (FSB) and a 2MB L2 cache, the sources said.

Intel also plans to unveil two Pentium 4 XE processors models, running at 3.46GHz and 3.73GHz, respectively, for the high-end desktop segment in the fourth quarter of this year, the sources noted. The two P4XE chips will have a 1066MHz FSB.
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Distroyed · Sep 1, 2004, 09:04 PM

....we've already got processors like that now. It looks like Intel intends on breaking Moore's Law.

No_Style · Sep 1, 2004, 09:09 PM

We've got processors overclocked to that level, yeah. I'm getting kinda tired of Intel re-releasing refined processors over and over. But at least there will be 3.73 GHz @ 1066 FSB

Monkeyboy · Sep 2, 2004, 09:38 AM

Looks to me like they're struggling with process - and also trying to get away from the megahurtz myth. They're basically adding more cache etc to allow a transition to 'true' model numbers, dispensing with measuring a processor's performance by clock speed alone.

Yet another example where they're following in the footsteps of giants - way to go AMD!

Distroyed · Sep 2, 2004, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkeyboy

Looks to me like they're struggling with process - and also trying to get away from the megahurtz myth. They're basically adding more cache etc to allow a transition to 'true' model numbers, dispensing with measuring a processor's performance by clock speed alone.

Yet another example where they're following in the footsteps of giants - way to go AMD!

I'm not so certain they're doing it to discover alternative ways of improving their processors as they are trying to milk as much as they can out of a technology that all they have to do is spend a few meager bucks tweaking and release it as the latest and greatest, even though it's barely an improvement. Why spend the money on perpetuous research if you can make just as much rereleasing the same crap over and over? They're a corporate entity, just like any other.

CDsDontBurn · Sep 2, 2004, 11:05 AM

blah! intel should just make this new chip the "pentium 5." This 600 series chip would now be the 4th revision of the p4. I've heard that intel's 64bit chips will not be supported by MSFT. Funny since MSFT doesn't support the prescotts for sp2...lol.

No_Style · Sep 3, 2004, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Distroyed

I'm not so certain they're doing it to discover alternative ways of improving their processors as they are trying to milk as much as they can out of a technology that all they have to do is spend a few meager bucks tweaking and release it as the latest and greatest, even though it's barely an improvement. Why spend the money on perpetuous research if you can make just as much rereleasing the same crap over and over? They're a corporate entity, just like any other.

I believe you are correct, sir.

If you notice with each Intel refinement, you see subtle, but critical improvements. More cache is the first one that pops into my mind. They're trying to squeeze more cache into their processors. Think about that. They're taking baby steps, but from Willamette A to Prescott now... they've been grand improvements.

Can't say much for AMD's Athlon XP line, however, they didn't focus on incremental improvements, but rather pour resources into a big one like the AMD64.

Have you all seen Intel's Dothan chip for the mobiles? Grand chip. I absolutely love that chip. Sure it doesn't rock with performance like a 3.4 GHz would, but that's because the clockspeed isn't up as high. But, damn power consumption and a killer performance for that low of a clockspeed is something to smile about.

Actually this would be like the 7th revision of the Pentium 4:

Willamette
Northwood A
Northwood B
Northwood C
Prescott (D)
Revised Prescott? (800 FSB, 2 MB cache)
Revised Prescott? (1066 FSB, 2 MB cache)

CDsDontBurn · Sep 3, 2004, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by No_Style

Actually this would be like the 7th revision of the Pentium 4:

Willamette
Northwood A
Northwood B
Northwood C
Prescott (D)
Revised Prescott? (800 FSB, 2 MB cache)
Revised Prescott? (1066 FSB, 2 MB cache)

I've never really known the steps (willamette, northwood A-D, and prescott)intel has taken on it's p4 line. Up until recently i've always had AMDs in my rigs. My first one was a 1.2Ghz T-bird 4yrs. ago.

anyways......if the prescott 1066FSB 2Mb L2 cache is a socket 478 chip (doubtful though), i'll get it

No_Style · Sep 3, 2004, 04:31 PM

Nah. Socket 478 is pretty much done for Intel.. As for me? I've been Intel since like forever. But, I know some stuff about AMD as well. I do own laptop though

Bartons indeed rock.

AMD had some signficant changes for their Athlon XP line:

Palomino
Thoroughbred A
Thoroughbred B
Barton

CDsDontBurn · Sep 3, 2004, 08:52 PM

socket A has been around for quite a while already. AMD started their socket A chips back when they were running at 600~700Mhz. with totally different cores. I don't know what they were tho. I didn't get into the pc game until like i said earlier 1.2 t-birds were out.

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No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	Intel to launch 600-series CPUs in 1Q 2005, remove 700-series from roadmap Intel has tentatively decided to remove the 700-series processors from its roadmap. Instead, the chip giant plans to launch a 600-series lineup of Pentium 4 CPUs for desktops in the first quarter of next year, according to sources. Intel plans to initially launch four 600-series models, with clock speeds ranging from 3.2 to 3.8GHz. The 600-series processors will have an 800MHz front side bus (FSB) and a 2MB L2 cache, the sources said. Intel also plans to unveil two Pentium 4 XE processors models, running at 3.46GHz and 3.73GHz, respectively, for the high-end desktop segment in the fourth quarter of this year, the sources noted. The two P4XE chips will have a 1066MHz FSB. _______________ Read More/Source: DigiTimes __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here

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No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	We've got processors overclocked to that level, yeah. I'm getting kinda tired of Intel re-releasing refined processors over and over. But at least there will be 3.73 GHz @ 1066 FSB __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here

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CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	blah! intel should just make this new chip the "pentium 5." This 600 series chip would now be the 4th revision of the p4. I've heard that intel's 64bit chips will not be supported by MSFT. Funny since MSFT doesn't support the prescotts for sp2...lol. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Sep 3, 2004, 04:31 PM	Thread Starter #9
No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	Nah. Socket 478 is pretty much done for Intel.. As for me? I've been Intel since like forever. But, I know some stuff about AMD as well. I do own laptop though Bartons indeed rock. AMD had some signficant changes for their Athlon XP line: Palomino Thoroughbred A Thoroughbred B Barton __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here

Sep 3, 2004, 08:52 PM	#10
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	socket A has been around for quite a while already. AMD started their socket A chips back when they were running at 600~700Mhz. with totally different cores. I don't know what they were tho. I didn't get into the pc game until like i said earlier 1.2 t-birds were out. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

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Distroyed DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 170 Rep Power: 0	....we've already got processors like that now. It looks like Intel intends on breaking Moore's Law.

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Monkeyboy DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vista: the woe starts now! Posts: 113 Rep Power: 0	Looks to me like they're struggling with process - and also trying to get away from the megahurtz myth. They're basically adding more cache etc to allow a transition to 'true' model numbers, dispensing with measuring a processor's performance by clock speed alone. Yet another example where they're following in the footsteps of giants - way to go AMD!