Intel: It will be hard for AMD to follow us

Dom · Oct 16, 2004, 12:42 AM

"THE DAY of Intel's earning results, CEO Craig Barrett delivered an up-beat report to all the firm's employees, via a Webcast and through its internal organ Circuit News.

Barrett told the staff that Intel has a "plan and product roadmaps" which will allow the company to be successful despite "several highly publicised setbacks" in the recent months.

And competitors like AMD will find it very hard to follow Intel, because of its size, its resources, and its worldwide sales coverage. It has 180,000 system integrators worldwide.

Multicore products will leverage features in the Centrino brand, and that will include better heat dissipation. Those features will include low power, more slender types of PC, and wireless.

He said that the firm's last results were broadly in line with Intel's expectations apart from higher than expected sales of mobos and chipsets and lower sales of high margin CPUs.

Craig BarrettIntel had always had setbacks but a booming PC industry masked that."

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The_Neon_Cowboy · Oct 16, 2004, 01:00 AM

up future amd maps put them right up there even with intel, if not better
price wise- no body knows that one

nForcer · Oct 16, 2004, 03:29 AM

Well there is one undeniable fact. Intel has more $$$ to throw around and more time spent developing/researching/etc thier CPU technology. I see AMD going a different route just to be different - hey, its how APPLE got started (or was it the other way around?) Anyway, they were sucessful.

Sucess shouldn't be measured by bragging rights but by the quality of product. For a while, that was hard to determine but since AMD is pushing 64-bit (that Intel realized years ago wasn't worth the $$$ to push to the desktop) Intel is deciding to squeeze the last few years left out of the 32-bit technology (which AMD has all but abandoned). Who's to say 64-bit will be enough when 32 runs out? When does the desktop user (running a sub $100 USD motherboard) NEED 4gig of RAM? Last I checked, 1 gig was pleanty enough, and I don't think its even possible to get more than 4 gig into a sub-100$ motherboard! Okay where was I going with this?

Oh...so...yeah...Intel's got the history and is a better company because of it. AMD has the youth and desire to make a difference.

caqde · Oct 16, 2004, 03:55 AM

Well AMD and youth I don't really think so (but I will say that have the desire) 1 year isn't that much (1968Intel/1969AMD), but I will say the the Powerusers will most likely get use out of 4+ gigs of Ram within the next 2-3 years if not sooner and the average user might use 1-1.5 within the same time. And who knows when Longhorn ships (someday) it might require 1gig or more to function optimally under normal circumstances with all those pretty features on.

Judas · Oct 16, 2004, 05:52 AM

1gb today in min for a rather decent machine... 512 is utterly falling appart in any gaming machine... and just passing the tests for other work... 256 is just..... sad......

2gb is rather nice......

2 years from now... 4gb is be affordable...

I'm impressed with AMD getting a good head start on things and providing a massive amount of "testing" before 64 bit goes completely mainstream and fully running 64 bit mode... (hugs his XP 64 bit cd)

things are looking good (would be better if XP 64 was available a year ago)...

I have to thank all those thousands of people able to purchase all the hardware and run and basically "test" for us lower paid users....

kelston · Oct 16, 2004, 07:42 AM

I think AMD will always remain successful if not more so based on the mentioned price point.

AMD's CPUs are always priced at a level normal people can afford allowing normal people to have a high end performance machine without dropping 900 dollars for some 3GHz Intel CPU.

snake · Oct 16, 2004, 09:27 AM

LOL

Except for servers (like bi-Xeon ones) AMD proposes the cheaper solutions for better performances than any equal Pentium processor...

I don't understand how someone can really think that Intel will rule the market in the next few years

@/2ct!< · Oct 16, 2004, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snake

I don't understand how someone can really think that Intel will rule the market in the next few years

Trust

nForcer · Oct 17, 2004, 12:25 AM

Reliability, Dependability, do I need to go any further?

If it aint broke, don't fix it.

Oct 16, 2004, 12:42 AM	#1
Dom DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,940 Rep Power: 0	Intel: It will be hard for AMD to follow us "THE DAY of Intel's earning results, CEO Craig Barrett delivered an up-beat report to all the firm's employees, via a Webcast and through its internal organ Circuit News. Barrett told the staff that Intel has a "plan and product roadmaps" which will allow the company to be successful despite "several highly publicised setbacks" in the recent months. And competitors like AMD will find it very hard to follow Intel, because of its size, its resources, and its worldwide sales coverage. It has 180,000 system integrators worldwide. Multicore products will leverage features in the Centrino brand, and that will include better heat dissipation. Those features will include low power, more slender types of PC, and wireless. He said that the firm's last results were broadly in line with Intel's expectations apart from higher than expected sales of mobos and chipsets and lower sales of high margin CPUs. Craig BarrettIntel had always had setbacks but a booming PC industry masked that." [Read More] _______________________ Source: TheInquirer

Oct 16, 2004, 01:00 AM	#2
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	up future amd maps put them right up there even with intel, if not better price wise- no body knows that one __________________

Oct 16, 2004, 03:55 AM	#4
caqde HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: US, IL Posts: 502 Rep Power: 64 System Specs	Well AMD and youth I don't really think so (but I will say that have the desire) 1 year isn't that much (1968Intel/1969AMD), but I will say the the Powerusers will most likely get use out of 4+ gigs of Ram within the next 2-3 years if not sooner and the average user might use 1-1.5 within the same time. And who knows when Longhorn ships (someday) it might require 1gig or more to function optimally under normal circumstances with all those pretty features on. __________________ AMD Phenom II X4 925 AM3/ Giga-byte MA790XT-UD4P XFX HD5770 1GB / 2x2GB of GSKILL DDR3 10666 8-8-8-23 Samsung SH-S182D DVD-RW drive / Sony Optiarc BD-5300S BD-RW drive Western Digital WD1501FASS(Primary)/Western Digital 15EADS(Secondary)/Western Digital 7500AACS(Secondary)/Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320gb(Secondary)/Western Digital 3200KS 16MB 7200rpm SATAII HD(Secondary) Antec TP-550 / CoolerMaster CMStacker Sound Blaster X-FI Titanium Fatal1ty Professional / Creative Inspire 6600 6.1 speakers Samsugn T200HD 20" LCD Monitor / Logitech Internet 350 Black Keyboard Logitech MX510 Mouse

Oct 16, 2004, 09:27 AM	#7
snake HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: France Posts: 421 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	LOL Except for servers (like bi-Xeon ones) AMD proposes the cheaper solutions for better performances than any equal Pentium processor... I don't understand how someone can really think that Intel will rule the market in the next few years __________________ i7 930@4Ghz-DFI T3EH6-6Go OCZPC12800-GTX480+8800GT Barton 2600+@2.16 (188x11.5) # GeForce 6800 GT@Ultra 1.5Go PC3200 #Asus A7N8X Deluxe Bios 1008 26397 3DMark06/ 57736 3DMark01/163152 Aquamark3

Oct 16, 2004, 03:29 AM	#3
nForcer Twice the fun! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,404 Rep Power: 0	Well there is one undeniable fact. Intel has more $$$ to throw around and more time spent developing/researching/etc thier CPU technology. I see AMD going a different route just to be different - hey, its how APPLE got started (or was it the other way around?) Anyway, they were sucessful. Sucess shouldn't be measured by bragging rights but by the quality of product. For a while, that was hard to determine but since AMD is pushing 64-bit (that Intel realized years ago wasn't worth the $$$ to push to the desktop) Intel is deciding to squeeze the last few years left out of the 32-bit technology (which AMD has all but abandoned). Who's to say 64-bit will be enough when 32 runs out? When does the desktop user (running a sub $100 USD motherboard) NEED 4gig of RAM? Last I checked, 1 gig was pleanty enough, and I don't think its even possible to get more than 4 gig into a sub-100$ motherboard! Okay where was I going with this? Oh...so...yeah...Intel's got the history and is a better company because of it. AMD has the youth and desire to make a difference.

Oct 16, 2004, 07:42 AM	#6
kelston HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bayside, NY USA Posts: 360 Rep Power: 0	I think AMD will always remain successful if not more so based on the mentioned price point. AMD's CPUs are always priced at a level normal people can afford allowing normal people to have a high end performance machine without dropping 900 dollars for some 3GHz Intel CPU.

Oct 17, 2004, 12:25 AM	#9
nForcer Twice the fun! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,404 Rep Power: 0	Reliability, Dependability, do I need to go any further? If it aint broke, don't fix it.